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    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/03/h...s-malaria.html

    This insidious disease has touched every part of the globe. It is tuberculosis, the biggest infectious-disease killer worldwide, claiming 1.5 million lives each year.

    Until this year, TB and its deadly allies, H.I.V. and malaria, were on the run. The toll from each disease over the previous decade was at its nadir in 2018, the last year for which data are available.

    Yet now, as the coronavirus pandemic spreads around the world, consuming global health resources, these perennially neglected adversaries are making a comeback.

    “Covid-19 risks derailing all our efforts and taking us back to where we were 20 years ago,” said Dr. Pedro L. Alonso, the director of the World Health Organization’s global malaria program.

    It’s not just that the coronavirus has diverted scientific attention from TB, H.I.V. and malaria. The lockdowns, particularly across parts of Africa, Asia and Latin America, have raised insurmountable barriers to patients who must travel to obtain diagnoses or drugs, according to interviews with more than two dozen public health officials, doctors and patients worldwide.

    Fear of the coronavirus and the shuttering of clinics have kept away many patients struggling with H.I.V., TB and malaria, while restrictions on air and sea travel have severely limited delivery of medications to the hardest-hit regions.

    About 80 percent of tuberculosis, H.I.V. and malaria programs worldwide have reported disruptions in services, and one in four people living with H.I.V. have reported problems with gaining access to medications, according to U.N. AIDS. Interruptions or delays in treatment may lead to drug resistance, already a formidable problem in many countries.

    In India, home to about 27 percent of the world’s TB cases, diagnoses have dropped by nearly 75 percent since the pandemic began. In Russia, H.I.V. clinics have been repurposed for coronavirus testing.

    Malaria season has begun in Africa, which has 90 percent of malaria deaths in the world, but the normal strategies for prevention — distribution of insecticide-treated bed nets and spraying with pesticides — have been curtailed because of lockdowns.

    According to one estimate, a three-month lockdown across different parts of the world and a gradual return to normal over 10 months could result in an additional 6.3 million cases of tuberculosis and 1.4 million deaths from it.

    A six-month disruption of antiretroviral therapy may lead to more than 500,000 additional deaths from illnesses related to H.I.V., according to the W.H.O. Another model by the W.H.O. predicted that in the worst-case scenario, deaths from malaria could double to 770,000 per year.

    Several public health experts, some close to tears, warned that if the current trends continue, the coronavirus is likely to set back years, perhaps decades, of painstaking progress against TB, H.I.V. and malaria.

    The Global Fund, a public-private partnership to fight these diseases, estimates that mitigating this damage will require at least $28.5 billion, a sum that is unlikely to materialize.

     
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    I do not wear a mask. I went to the boxing gym throughout the entire pandemic. Go out to eat, go to the beach, go shopping. It’s not an issue. Nobody has ever once mustered up the nerve to ask me to wear one

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickyPipes View Post
    I do not wear a mask. I went to the boxing gym throughout the entire pandemic. Go out to eat, go to the beach, go shopping. It’s not an issue. Nobody has ever once mustered up the nerve to ask me to wear one
    Maybe your Tap Out T-shirt, tribal tattoo, and holstered flashlight scare them.

     
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    Everyone is too dumb to realize Georgia never had a mask mandate. Not for 1 second.

    If you trust the data inputs, the arguments for a mask mandate are unsupported by any evidence.

    Sucks for Team Lockdown and Team Oppression.

    The only way out for these freedom hating control freaks is to claim the data is flawed.

    There is no other evidence masks mandates do anything.

    It's pathetic to see people worship at the alter of the state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidewinder View Post
    Everyone is too dumb to realize Georgia never had a mask mandate. Not for 1 second.

    If you trust the data inputs, the arguments for a mask mandate are unsupported by any evidence.

    Sucks for Team Lockdown and Team Oppression.

    The only way out for these freedom hating control freaks is to claim the data is flawed.

    There is no other evidence masks mandates do anything.

    It's pathetic to see people worship at the alter of the state.
    how nice of you to come out a year later and speak the truth.

    you must not be afraid of the backlash any longer?

    dweeb, we've been saying this since the beginning, but you can't talk to the doomers on this site, the gimmicks, the Sloppy Joe's, the sonatine's, all doomer faggots who love tyranny

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sidewinder View Post
    Everyone is too dumb to realize Georgia never had a mask mandate. Not for 1 second.

    If you trust the data inputs, the arguments for a mask mandate are unsupported by any evidence.

    Sucks for Team Lockdown and Team Oppression.

    The only way out for these freedom hating control freaks is to claim the data is flawed.

    There is no other evidence masks mandates do anything.

    It's pathetic to see people worship at the alter of the state.
    how nice of you to come out a year later and speak the truth.

    you must not be afraid of the backlash any longer?

    dweeb, we've been saying this since the beginning, but you can't talk to the doomers on this site, the gimmicks, the Sloppy Joe's, the sonatine's, all doomer faggots who love tyranny
    LOL 500k+ dead you drooling retard, we're the laughingstock of the world.

    Get AIDS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
    nonsense
    putting the LBGTQ in Q. dwai tripping balls in the back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
    how nice of you to come out a year later and speak the truth.

    you must not be afraid of the backlash any longer?

    dweeb, we've been saying this since the beginning, but you can't talk to the doomers on this site, the gimmicks, the Sloppy Joe's, the sonatine's, all doomer faggots who love tyranny
    LOL 500k+ dead you drooling retard, we're the laughingstock of the world.

    Get AIDS.
    lol, you know millions of people die every year?

    is anyone gonna tell him?

    fucking fag, 500k is nothing, fake ass virus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
    how nice of you to come out a year later and speak the truth.

    you must not be afraid of the backlash any longer?

    dweeb, we've been saying this since the beginning, but you can't talk to the doomers on this site, the gimmicks, the Sloppy Joe's, the sonatine's, all doomer faggots who love tyranny
    LOL 500k+ dead you drooling retard, we're the laughingstock of the world.

    Get AIDS.
    Most were people with one foot in the grave and hoping for the push aka nursing home residents which is the living dead.
    Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.

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    90% of the 2.5 million people that have died of COVID were.....

    Get ready for it.........


    OBESE

    CHANGE!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
    how nice of you to come out a year later and speak the truth.

    you must not be afraid of the backlash any longer?

    dweeb, we've been saying this since the beginning, but you can't talk to the doomers on this site, the gimmicks, the Sloppy Joe's, the sonatine's, all doomer faggots who love tyranny
    LOL 500k+ dead you drooling retard, we're the laughingstock of the world.

    Get AIDS.
    False, literally everybody on earth wishes they were American. The ones who get upset about this statement and say “no I don’t I hate America lol trump wow you had people die of coronavirus how awful” are the ones who want to be American the most.

    Who are these nerds who say things like “we are the laughing stock of the world” bro stfu as if it matters. Coronavirus only impacts fat obese lards and the elderly. You think old Mr Chen in his village in China gives a crap about the US? Oh yeah all the people in the mountains of Russia are really analyzing US CORONA policy and boy are they laughing at us!

    Take the mask off, get some fresh air, quit the drinking, do some push-ups and eat some meat, you’ll be ok Nancy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by splitthis View Post
    90% of the 2.5 million people that have died of COVID were.....

    Get ready for it.........


    OBESE

    CHANGE!
    Nope.

    "The report, which described a "dramatic" correlation between countries' COVID-19 death and obesity rates, found that 90% or 2.2 million of the 2.5 million deaths from the pandemic disease so far were in countries with high levels of obesity."

    Preventing diseases isn't really big with healthcare models that are based in health insurance. If it helps you can blame Obama care, though i'm still guessing most people would still rather pay higher premiums than lose weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by splitthis View Post
    90% of the 2.5 million people that have died of COVID were.....

    Get ready for it.........


    OBESE

    CHANGE!
    Nope.

    "The report, which described a "dramatic" correlation between countries' COVID-19 death and obesity rates, found that 90% or 2.2 million of the 2.5 million deaths from the pandemic disease so far were in countries with high levels of obesity."

    Preventing diseases isn't really big with healthcare models that are based in health insurance. If it helps you can blame Obama care, though i'm still guessing most people would still rather pay higher premiums than lose weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
    how nice of you to come out a year later and speak the truth.

    you must not be afraid of the backlash any longer?

    dweeb, we've been saying this since the beginning, but you can't talk to the doomers on this site, the gimmicks, the Sloppy Joe's, the sonatine's, all doomer idiotics who love tyranny
    LOL 500k+ dead you drooling retard, we're the laughingstock of the world.

    Get AIDS.
    I know math is hard in Portland, but note that the US has the third largest population in the world, and the two larger population countries are either corrupt (China) or unlikely keeping accurate records (India), or both (China).

    The way you do this is by deaths per million population.

    This leaves the US 10th worst in the world, doing better than Portugal, Italy, UK, Belgium, and others.

    The ones slightly "better" than the US have different counting procedures of what they consider a "COVID death", and many would also be worse than us if we all used the same counting standard.

    So, no, we are not a "laughingstock" regarding COVID, at least not among smart people who understand what they're talking about.

    The US could have indeed done better regarding COVID deaths, though it was going to be bad even if we had perfect leadership. That's just the nature of the way the citizenry of our country operates. The most preventable deaths were in the nursing homes, as those should have been highly protected, given that we recognized early on that they were the most vulnerable. Most states did not protect nursing homes well, and a few (Pennsylvania, New York, Michigan) actually mandated that COVID positive patients be forced into those places.

    Guess which political party those governors came from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe View Post

    LOL 500k+ dead you drooling retard, we're the laughingstock of the world.

    Get AIDS.
    I know math is hard in Portland, but note that the US has the third largest population in the world, and the two larger population countries are either corrupt (China) or unlikely keeping accurate records (India), or both (China).

    The way you do this is by deaths per million population.

    This leaves the US 10th worst in the world, doing better than Portugal, Italy, UK, Belgium, and others.

    The ones slightly "better" than the US have different counting procedures of what they consider a "COVID death", and many would also be worse than us if we all used the same counting standard.

    So, no, we are not a "laughingstock" regarding COVID, at least not among smart people who understand what they're talking about.

    The US could have indeed done better regarding COVID deaths, though it was going to be bad even if we had perfect leadership. That's just the nature of the way the citizenry of our country operates. The most preventable deaths were in the nursing homes, as those should have been highly protected, given that we recognized early on that they were the most vulnerable. Most states did not protect nursing homes well, and a few (Pennsylvania, New York, Michigan) actually mandated that COVID positive patients be forced into those places.

    Guess which political party those governors came from?
    LOL math is hard. 500k+ equals 500k+. LOL Team Retard moving goal posts. Notice I didn't even blame King Retard for this?

    We absolutely are the laughingstock of the world, as well we should be, for COVID response and a million other reasons. How many other countries politicized a fucking pandemic and have their leader openly speculating whether or not injecting bleach will cure it?

    LOL your party has fucking Q members setting policy.

    BuT deAtHs pEr MiLliOnS lol lol. Happy Q day faggot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    I know math is hard in Portland, but note that the US has the third largest population in the world, and the two larger population countries are either corrupt (China) or unlikely keeping accurate records (India), or both (China).

    The way you do this is by deaths per million population.

    This leaves the US 10th worst in the world, doing better than Portugal, Italy, UK, Belgium, and others.

    The ones slightly "better" than the US have different counting procedures of what they consider a "COVID death", and many would also be worse than us if we all used the same counting standard.

    So, no, we are not a "laughingstock" regarding COVID, at least not among smart people who understand what they're talking about.

    The US could have indeed done better regarding COVID deaths, though it was going to be bad even if we had perfect leadership. That's just the nature of the way the citizenry of our country operates. The most preventable deaths were in the nursing homes, as those should have been highly protected, given that we recognized early on that they were the most vulnerable. Most states did not protect nursing homes well, and a few (Pennsylvania, New York, Michigan) actually mandated that COVID positive patients be forced into those places.

    Guess which political party those governors came from?
    LOL math is hard. 500k+ equals 500k+. LOL Team Retard moving goal posts. Notice I didn't even blame King Retard for this?

    We absolutely are the laughingstock of the world, as well we should be, for COVID response and a million other reasons. How many other countries politicized a fucking pandemic and have their leader openly speculating whether or not injecting bleach will cure it?

    LOL your party has fucking Q members setting policy.

    BuT deAtHs pEr MiLliOnS lol lol. Happy Q day faggot.
    Regardless of where to assign blame, American incompetence is rampant on both sides, and has been for years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by splitthis View Post
    90% of the 2.5 million people that have died of COVID were.....

    Get ready for it.........


    OBESE

    CHANGE!
    Nope.

    "The report, which described a "dramatic" correlation between countries' COVID-19 death and obesity rates, found that 90% or 2.2 million of the 2.5 million deaths from the pandemic disease so far were in countries with high levels of obesity."

    Preventing diseases isn't really big with healthcare models that are based in health insurance. If it helps you can blame Obama care, though i'm still guessing most people would still rather pay higher premiums than lose weight.
    Paying higher premiums is the least of obese Americans problems. Obesity as an epidemic makes a lot of money, people are just too stupid to realize their slow painful early death is wanted by corporate and mainstream medical entities.

    It’s criminal.

     
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