Soooooo omicron brought into country by vaccinated peeps. Lolz. Injunctions on mandating vaccines. Vaccines = joke.
Soooooo omicron brought into country by vaccinated peeps. Lolz. Injunctions on mandating vaccines. Vaccines = joke.
Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.
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Tine and his wierdo group of perverse incels are to blame. Gotcha
This just in...California will be shutdown until 2030.
Don't even think of visiting until then and after you have had at least 5 shots of the vaccine.
L.A. County records first case of Omicron variant
https://www.latimes.com/california/s...micron-variant
Originally Posted by OSA
ROFL
you know all these people were wearing masks too
khalwat you wanna chime in with your faggot mask propaganda now, again?
They really need to give up on these lol travel shutdowns in order to supposedly prevent a variant from getting here.
Absolutely never works. There's just too much travel in and out of the US to prevent variants from arriving. By the time a variant is identified, it's almost surely here.
If you're a tiny country which is hardly visited by outsiders, I guess it might be worth a shot. For the world's third most populated country, which has a huge number of people flowing in and out every day, not so much.
These shutdowns kinda made sense at the beginning when COVID wasn't understood, but almost 2 years later, it's time to give up on that failed prevention method.
America's Got Talent standout Jay Jay Phillips has died from complications related to COVID-19.
The family member tells us Phillips was not vaccinated, but just before he got sick had started to tell people he planned on getting the shot soon.
https://twitter.com/twt/status/1467138576697724932
Thoughtful musings from one of the biggest fundraisers in the GOP.
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can you agree that she is stupid and has stupid takes much like AOC?
There's no propaganda, just a multitude of studies that I've linked to, and the consensus of experts world-wide that wearing a mask helps reduce transmission of COVID.
Note the word reduce -- it does not eliminate it. Ditto with vaccines.
Your argument is essentially "Seatbelts are useless, because someone died in a car crash wearing a seatbelt." In other words, it's a fallacious argument.
There's no question that simply avoiding people entirely with quarantining is the most effective, but it's also impractical. Next is getting vaccinated. And after that is wearing a mask.
Stating wearing a mask is "perfunctory" or not effective at all flies in the face of a multitude of studies from all over the world, as well as the advice of virologists and other medical experts from all over the world.
I will take their advice over politically driven arguments to the contrary. Public health issues should not be politicized.
I don't particularly care if you want to put yourself in danger by your actions. I do care that collectively, people who ignore advice from medical experts on an infectious disease are effectively pissing in the pool that all of us have to swim in.
LOL YOU DID THE SEATBELT ANALOGY. propaganda defense number one from the NPCS.There's no propaganda, just a multitude of studies that I've linked to, and the consensus of experts world-wide that wearing a mask helps reduce transmission of COVID.
Note the word reduce -- it does not eliminate it. Ditto with vaccines.
Your argument is essentially "Seatbelts are useless, because someone died in a car crash wearing a seatbelt." In other words, it's a fallacious argument.
There's no question that simply avoiding people entirely with quarantining is the most effective, but it's also impractical. Next is getting vaccinated. And after that is wearing a mask.
Stating wearing a mask is "perfunctory" or not effective at all flies in the face of a multitude of studies from all over the world, as well as the advice of virologists and other medical experts from all over the world.
I will take their advice over politically driven arguments to the contrary. Public health issues should not be politicized.
I don't particularly care if you want to put yourself in danger by your actions. I do care that collectively, people who ignore advice from medical experts on an infectious disease are effectively pissing in the pool that all of us have to swim in.
JUST TWO MORE WEEKS OF MASKING AND VACCINES AND WE'LL BEAT THIS THING YALL!
The data very clearly shows that without vaccines, and without masking, the situation is far worse.
Why are you so insecure that you can't handle wearing a mask when asked to?
you are a faggot, stop posting and wear your mask nobody caresThe data very clearly shows that without vaccines, and without masking, the situation is far worse.
Why are you so insecure that you can't handle wearing a mask when asked to?
https://swprs.org/face-masks-evidence/The data very clearly shows that without vaccines, and without masking, the situation is far worse.
Why are you so insecure that you can't handle wearing a mask when asked to?
A May 2020 meta-study on pandemic influenza published by the US CDC found that face masks had no effect, neither as personal protective equipment nor as a source control. [Source](https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article)
A Danish randomized controlled trial with 6000 participants, published in the Annals of Internal Medicine in November 2020, found no statistically significant effect of high-quality medical face masks against SARS-CoV-2 infection in a community setting. [Source](https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-6817)
A large randomized controlled trial with close to 8000 participants, published in October 2020 in PLOS One, found that face masks “did not seem to be effective against laboratory-confirmed viral respiratory infections nor against clinical respiratory infection.” [Source](https://journals.plos.org/plosone/ar...l.pone.0240287)
A February 2021 review by the European CDC found no significant evidence supporting the effectiveness of non-medical and medical face masks in the community. Furthermore, the European CDC advised against the use of FFP2/N95 respirators by the general public. [Source](https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/sites/def...rst-update.pdf)
A July 2020 review by the Oxford Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine found that there is no evidence for the effectiveness of cloth masks against virus infection or transmission. [Source](https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/maskin...with-politics/)
A November 2020 Cochrane review found that face masks did not reduce influenza-like illness (ILI) cases, neither in the general population nor in health care workers. [Source](https://www.cochrane.org/CD006207/AR...ratory-viruses)
An April 2020 review by two US professors in respiratory and infectious disease from the University of Illinois concluded that face masks have no effect in everyday life, neither as self-protection nor to protect third parties (so-called source control). [Source](https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-pers...sed-sound-data)
An article in the New England Journal of Medicine from May 2020 came to the conclusion that cloth face masks offer little to no protection in everyday life. [Source](https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2006372)
A 2015 study in the British Medical Journal BMJ Open found that cloth masks were **penetrated by 97% of particles and may increase infection risk by retaining moisture or repeated use.** [Source](https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/5/4/e006577)
An August 2020 review by a German professor in virology, epidemiology and hygiene found that there is no evidence for the effectiveness of cloth face masks and that the improper daily use of masks by the public may in fact lead to an increase in infections. [Source](https://www.thieme-connect.com/produ...55/a-1174-6591)
The WHO admitted to the BBC that its June 2020 [mask policy update](https://swprs.org/who-mask-study-seriously-flawed/) was due not to new evidence but [“political lobbying”](https://archive.ph/YVJ0Y)**: “We had been told by various sources WHO committee reviewing the evidence had not backed masks but they recommended them due to political lobbying. This point was put to WHO who did not deny.” (D. Cohen, BBC Medical Corresponent).
There is increasing evidence that the novel coronavirus is transmitted, at least in indoor settings, not only by droplets but also by smaller aerosols. However, due to their large pore size and poor fit, cloth masks cannot filter out aerosols (see [video analysis](https://videopress.com/v/4egEyh2b
)): **over 90% of aerosols [penetrate or bypass](https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/5/4/e006577) the mask and fill a medium-sized room within minutes.**
During the notorious 1918 influenza pandemic, the use of cloth face masks among the general population was widespread and in some places mandatory, but they [made no difference](https://www.washingtonpost.com/histo...-were-useless/).
To date, the **only randomized controlled trial (RCT) on face masks against SARS-CoV-2 infection in a community setting found no statistically significant benefit** (see above). However, three major journals [refused to publish](https://swprs.org/the-suppressed-danish-mask-study/) this study, delaying its publication by several months.
An analysis by the US CDC found that **[85% of people](https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/...5-H.pdf#page=4) infected with the new coronavirus reported wearing a mask “always” (70.6%) or “often” (14.4%)**. Compared to the control group of uninfected people, always wearing a mask did not reduce the risk of infection.
German researchers found that even an N95/FFP2 mask mandate had [no influence](https://twitter.com/DaFeid/status/1371448332875399168) on the coronavirus infection rate.** Austrian researchers found that the introduction, retraction and re-introduction of a facemask mandate in Austria had no influence on the infection rate.
In the US state of Kansas, the 90 counties without mask mandates had lower coronavirus infection rates** than the 15 counties with mask mandates. To hide this fact, the Kansas health department [tried to manipulate](https://sentinelksmo.org/more-decept...-mask-mandate/) the official statistics and data presentation.
Contrary to common belief, studies in hospitals [found that](https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF01658736) the wearing of a medical mask by surgeons during operations [didn’t reduce](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...01509-0009.pdf) post-operative bacterial wound infections in patients.
German scientists found that in and on **N95 (FFP2) masks**, the novel coronavirus remains infectious for [several days](https://fh-muenster.de/gesundheit/fo...auch/index.php), **much longer than on most other materials**, thus **significantly increasing the risk of infection** by touching or reusing such masks.
Seeing Fauci say ‘I am the science’ says it all, when he falls, he will fall hard.
Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.
Ronald Reagan
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...vid-death-rate
I disagree as I don't really think it is misinformation so much as purposeful stupidity.
I don't think anyone was under the impression that we'd prevent omicron from arriving. Rather, it just slows down the spread here to help us allow more measures in place, whatever they might be. (new vaccine for those who want one, or more understanding, etc)
I don't necessarily disagree with you but it'd seem they should just reverse the bans earlier. Like this omnicron thing is all over the US now, so preventing travel from South Africa more than another week doesn't really make sense regardless. I think a bit of caution is fine but the bans need to be revisited constantly to see if they make sense.
It just doesn't seem useful to me.I don't think anyone was under the impression that we'd prevent omicron from arriving. Rather, it just slows down the spread here to help us allow more measures in place, whatever they might be. (new vaccine for those who want one, or more understanding, etc)
I don't necessarily disagree with you but it'd seem they should just reverse the bans earlier. Like this omnicron thing is all over the US now, so preventing travel from South Africa more than another week doesn't really make sense regardless. I think a bit of caution is fine but the bans need to be revisited constantly to see if they make sense.
A very contagious variant is going to spread rapidly, even if a relatively small number of people with that variant are already in the country.
Very contagious variant + mostly pre-symptomatic transmission = exponential spread
They might as well give up on this.
One big problem with recent COVID prevention methods is that they require highly burdensome sacrifices in order to achieve a negligible gain. Mask mandates, 6-foot distancing requirements, crowd restrictions, travel restrictions, and hyper-sanitizing have not been proven to make any kind of noticeable difference in COVID spread. So why are we doing it?
We should be in the "live with COVID, return to normal, and concentrate on major benefits" phase at this point. The vaccine makes a major difference. The upcoming COVID pill might make a major difference. Future treatments might make a major difference. This is where the focus should be, while everything else should return to normal.
Every day brings a series of risks, including that of death. Driving to the grocery store is a risk. Going skiing is a risk. Swimming is a risk. Hiking is a risk. Drinking alcohol is a risk. Getting on an airplane is a risk. Even shoveling snow is a risk.
We can't seek to bring risk to zero, because that causes a disruption of nornal life to where the tradeoff isn't worth it.
People who want to manage their own personal risk should have the right to do so, but it's just insane that we aren't back to normal life with everything. The fact that we're still masking and distancing young kids is just insane.
It's fairly clear at this point that COVID will be endemic, will have a constant stream of variants, and some people will die from it each year. Hopefully our advanced scientific minds can minimize that number as time wears on.
There shouldn’t be any restrictions anymore. Those who want an n95 or 99 mask has had ample time to obtain one, they have the right to isolate blah blah.
Beyond time to return to normal and halt the multitude of adverse effects both medically and psychologically from the medical tyranny.
Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.
Ronald Reagan
i'm in the "don't care if people die" camp
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