So coronavirus is definitely going to kill a few of us.

[Cerveza Fria]

you guys are really fagging up this thread

Hey gringo,

Are you upset that someone else is doing your job?

[dwai]

you guys are really fagging up this thread

Hey gringo,

Are you upset that someone else is doing your job?

yes faggot

[Cerveza Fria]

Hey gringo,

Are you upset that someone else is doing your job?

yes faggot

[dwai]

yes faggot

cool you stupid faggot, your gifs are trash

[sonatine]

[Cerveza Fria]

cool you stupid faggot, your gifs are trash

If you don't like the gifs, perhaps you'd prefer this video..

https://tinyurl.com/y3yznzc5

[dwai]

cool you stupid faggot, your gifs are trash

If you don't like the gifs, perhaps you'd prefer this video..

https://tinyurl.com/y3yznzc5

No.

[zealanddonk]

Remember when Obama set up all those death panels.

[Cerveza Fria]

If you don't like the gifs, perhaps you'd prefer this video..

https://tinyurl.com/y3yznzc5

No.

So, this is what you do to your boyfriend at night? Do you pitch or catch?

[Dan Druff]

Minor details about the presentation referred to as DATA...

Limitations

 The efficacy and ability of the vaccine candidates to prevent transmission, as well as
the time vaccine may become available, is currently unknown
 Modeled epidemic trajectories are only for illustration and are not forecasts
 Overall averted burden should be interpreted cautiously:
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Sensitive to the future trajectory of the epidemic
Findings reflect an idealized rollout, with minimal delays and 100% uptake
The aim of this study was to demonstrate the relative impact of different initial
vaccine allocation strategies

...this part is from October 30 when a lot of the models were run in the dark to get a rough idea

Not sure why you're bolding the "may not prevent transmission" part like it's some sort of gotcha, when that's been one of my points for the last several pages. If it can't prevent transmission (which still hasn't been studied), that makes my argument stronger to only vaccinate the most vulnerable to effects of COVID.

The rest of your line here is also bizarre, as your point seems to be, "This study was from 1-2 months ago, so we need to ignore it and assume anything unfavorable to the left has changed, even though there haven't been further studies saying otherwise."

You also haven't explained why it's okay that "racial justice" -- a big factor in determining vaccine priority recommendations -- is being used by epidemiologists at the CDC at all. It has no place there. Yet they admit it's a big factor.

You also ignored my point that the study is looking at the difference between vaccinating elderly first and vaccinating "elderly, non-elderly with preexisting conditions, and essential workers" together. What they're actually doing is putting elderly with essential workers only, and leaving the non-enderly with preexisting conditions for a lower priority. This is a huge difference, as there will be plenty of under-65 with preexisting lives lost in the next month, but very few healthy essential workers dying. There's not even much overlap in those groups, as people with major preexisting conditions aren't that likely to be working at the jobs they call "essential".

If you study the difference between vaccinating only the elderly (my position) and vaccinating the elderly & essential workers at the same time (your position), you'll obviously get a large difference in number of deaths.

But you've already admitted that you're okay with lots of extra people dying, in order to push crazy left woke ideology, so you kinda already proved my point for me.

But that's not surprising, because the woke left has never cared about the individual, so literally killing people for the sake of wokeness has always been A-OK. That's why the left doesn't bat an eye when innocent people are maimed, killed, or have their businesses destroyed during mass riots.

[Dan Druff]

Since it's 1:45am in Finland, and gimmick is in his bed dreaming about the entire world being a communist utopia, I'll take a break from this tiresome debate and present something different.

Embedded Tweet

https://twitter.com/MailOnline/status/1341734077586616321


Well, well, welll!

Who has been saying for the entire year that masking is overrated as a COVID-preventing solution, and was likely instilling a false sense of security into wearers?

This the problem when the media politicizes a pandemic.

The media hated Trump, and Trump wasn't interested in encouraging masking. Therefore, the media had to portray the pandemic as Trump's fault for not encouraging masking, and pushing the narrative that we'd be doing great with COVID if we only all masked.

This, in turn, encouraged smug people (especially on the left) to feel that they were safe going out, as long as they wore a mask. After all, they weren't reckless MAGAtards refusing to wear a mask, so COVID wouldn't happen to them! The media and Democrats "following the science" said so!

Then they got COVID. Oops.

Anyone with common sense realized that masking was helpful, but was just one piece of the puzzle. However, the media was afraid to put out that "one piece of the puzzle" narrative, because Trump-bashing was the most important thing.

So here we are.

The message SHOULD HAVE BEEN THIS:

- Don't go indoors in public places, unless absolutely necessary

- Wear a mask

- Always socially distance when with people from other households

[sonatine]

druff did you like, hit your head recently?

[Dan Druff]

druff did you like, hit your head recently?

Can we get the official sonatine position on whether or not we should waste precious early vaccines on 25-year-old grocery store workers, so we can feel good about being woke?

You cool with letting elderly people die for that reason? Just wondering.

[sonatine]

druff did you like, hit your head recently?

Can we get the official sonatine position on whether or not we should waste precious early vaccines on 25-year-old grocery store workers, so we can feel good about being woke?

You cool with letting elderly people die for that reason? Just wondering.

like most emotionally competent people, i trust the experts who have been paid to research this issue for decades.

also did you ban tyde so you can go turn into him without him objecting?

just wondering.

[Dan Druff]

Can we get the official sonatine position on whether or not we should waste precious early vaccines on 25-year-old grocery store workers, so we can feel good about being woke?

You cool with letting elderly people die for that reason? Just wondering.

like most emotionally competent people, i trust the experts who have been paid to research this issue for decades.

also did you ban tyde so you can go turn into him without him objecting?

just wondering.

sonatine is "emotionally competent", everyone.

Yup. Nobody on this site would ever doubt that.

The "experts" are not citing scientific reasoning. They admit in their own defense of their recommendations that they included "racial justice" in their calculations. (These "experts" also have no expertise in that subject, by the way.)

But nice copout answer.

Look, if you agree that the nebulous concept of "racial justice" is a good reason to literally kill extra old people, just have the balls to say so. Don't hide behind "I trust the experts" bullshit.

Let's try this again, Mr. Emotional:

Do you or do you not support giving precious early vaccines to healthy 25-year-old grocery store workers ahead of old people who are actually vulnerable to being killed by COVID?

Do you support "racial justice" being a valid reason to kill old people?

[dwai]

[sonatine]

like most emotionally competent people, i trust the experts who have been paid to research this issue for decades.

also did you ban tyde so you can go turn into him without him objecting?

just wondering.

sonatine is "emotionally competent", everyone.

Yup. Nobody on this site would ever doubt that.

The "experts" are not citing scientific reasoning. They admit in their own defense of their recommendations that they included "racial justice" in their calculations. (These "experts" also have no expertise in that subject, by the way.)

But nice copout answer.

Look, if you agree that the nebulous concept of "racial justice" is a good reason to literally kill extra old people, just have the balls to say so. Don't hide behind "I trust the experts" bullshit.

Let's try this again, Mr. Emotional:

Do you or do you not support giving precious early vaccines to healthy 25-year-old grocery store workers ahead of old people who are actually vulnerable to being killed by COVID?

Do you support "racial justice" being a valid reason to kill old people?

druff you can stammer out the same weird shit as much as you want, its your site, but i think about 95% of the posters here including me know that theres simply no talking to you rationally and hasnt been for a while.

[adamantium]

sonatine is "emotionally competent", everyone.

Yup. Nobody on this site would ever doubt that.

The "experts" are not citing scientific reasoning. They admit in their own defense of their recommendations that they included "racial justice" in their calculations. (These "experts" also have no expertise in that subject, by the way.)

But nice copout answer.

Look, if you agree that the nebulous concept of "racial justice" is a good reason to literally kill extra old people, just have the balls to say so. Don't hide behind "I trust the experts" bullshit.

Let's try this again, Mr. Emotional:

Do you or do you not support giving precious early vaccines to healthy 25-year-old grocery store workers ahead of old people who are actually vulnerable to being killed by COVID?

Do you support "racial justice" being a valid reason to kill old people?

druff you can stammer out the same weird shit as much as you want, its your site, but i think about 95% of the posters here including me know that theres simply no talking to you rationally and hasnt been for a while.

que the 5%

[Dan Druff]

Yup, that's what I thought.

Very consistent with modern leftists. Refuse to answer direct questions about their insane policies, accuse the other side of being "crazy" for even asking.

At least gimmick makes an attempt to babble a convoluted response.

[sonatine]

yeah modern leftists tend to know dunning kruger when they see it.