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    Also you gotta admit that "#WifenSwappenSS" was funny, in reference to the Nazi-associated cross she had as a tattoo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    She just posted a piece in the Failing NY Times, with a detailed story regarding almost slitting her wrists over the entire situation: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/07/o...signation.html

    Reading it, I actually started to feel bad for her, and considered that perhaps some of this was more justifiable than I thought. She claimed to have been trapped in a bad marriage, and continued with it because her husband threatened to ruin her political campaign, and then her political career. Maybe he was the one who pressured her into that thruple with the female staffer. Maybe her relationship with the male staffer was simply borne from the guy having a kind listening ear regarding her horrible husband and his threats.

    However, when I got to the end, I realized something.

    She never apologized once in the article to the young female staffer she hurt in more ways than one. (The staffer repeatedly complained in text messages about how abandoned she felt by Katie, and also later texted that Katie had been "abusive" to her.)

    The article also never addressed any of the allegations. She did not admit any wrongdoing. She did not admit that she shouldn't have engaged in these relationships. She didn't take responsibility for obvious mistakes she made which were the main factor in ruining her career. She was on the front lines criticizing men for #MeToo violations -- how could she have thought it was okay to engage in sexual relationships with employees?

    Regardless of the sympathy-soliciting article, the fact remains that she still sees little fault of her own in the entire situation, and blames her problems entirely on her abusive husband and the intrusive right wing media.

    That article had zero introspection.
    She did apologize and admit what she did was wrong when she first addressed the situation.

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    So when are her un-edited photos going to hit PornHub?



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    Quote Originally Posted by duped_samaritan View Post
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    However, when I got to the end, I realized something.

    She never apologized once in the article to the young female staffer she hurt in more ways than one. (The staffer repeatedly complained in text messages about how abandoned she felt by Katie, and also later texted that Katie had been "abusive" to her.)

    The article also never addressed any of the allegations. She did not admit any wrongdoing. She did not admit that she shouldn't have engaged in these relationships. She didn't take responsibility for obvious mistakes she made which were the main factor in ruining her career. She was on the front lines criticizing men for #MeToo violations -- how could she have thought it was okay to engage in sexual relationships with employees?

    Regardless of the sympathy-soliciting article, the fact remains that she still sees little fault of her own in the entire situation, and blames her problems entirely on her abusive husband and the intrusive right wing media.

    That article had zero introspection.
    She did apologize and admit what she did was wrong when she first addressed the situation.

    I think you're missing my point.

    I don't feel she needs to go on an endless apology tour. Had she resigned and just gone away quietly, I'd be fine with that.

    The problem is that she's now trying to ride the "I'm a victim" train to her next career (public speaker?), which is why she keeps popping back up over and over with various "omg look how badly I was exploited" statements.

    This most recent op-ed in the NY Times was long and detailed. Surely she could have taken a few sentences there to apologize and reiterate that employer/employee sexual relationships are wrong, especially in Congress.

    Absent from this piece is any real form of personal responsibility. We get an overly detailed walkthrough of her attempts to cut her wrists in the bathtub, but oddly not a single mention of the fresh-out-of-college female staffer that she and her husband exploited for sexual thrills, and no look into her mindset which caused these bad decisions on her part.

    Instead, we are supposed to walk away from the piece with the belief that big, bad, mean people were victimizing poor Katie, and that was the reason her career ended. Not because of a series of awful decisions unbefitting of a Congresswoman, but only because of her vindictive husband and nasty right wing media.

    I guess she feels this is what she needs to do in order to get the SJW crowd fired up enough to where she can support herself as Professional Victim (see Sarkeesian, Anita), but it's really off-putting how she just won't take responsibility for anything, yet she also won't go away.

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    Also, this isn't really a classic case of revenge porn.

    If her husband simply leaked nudes or sexual photos of her after their divorce, that would have been revenge porn, and I'd agree she was a victim.

    Here the "revenge porn" was actually photographic evidence of her engaging in inappropriate behavior (having a sexual relationship with an underling), so it was far more than just, "Hey everyone, check out Katie Hill nude!"

    In fact, apparently there were far dirtier and explicit pics obtained by RedState ad Daily Mail, but both publications had the decency to refuse to publish those, and instead they only published the tamer ones which still got the point across.

    I have a hard time feeling that sorry for a member of Congress whose sexual trysts with underlings end up as salacious photos on the internet. They should know better than do this in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    She did apologize and admit what she did was wrong when she first addressed the situation.

    I think you're missing my point.

    I don't feel she needs to go on an endless apology tour. Had she resigned and just gone away quietly, I'd be fine with that.

    The problem is that she's now trying to ride the "I'm a victim" train to her next career (public speaker?), which is why she keeps popping back up over and over with various "omg look how badly I was exploited" statements.

    This most recent op-ed in the NY Times was long and detailed. Surely she could have taken a few sentences there to apologize and reiterate that employer/employee sexual relationships are wrong, especially in Congress.

    Absent from this piece is any real form of personal responsibility. We get an overly detailed walkthrough of her attempts to cut her wrists in the bathtub, but oddly not a single mention of the fresh-out-of-college female staffer that she and her husband exploited for sexual thrills, and no look into her mindset which caused these bad decisions on her part.

    Instead, we are supposed to walk away from the piece with the belief that big, bad, mean people were victimizing poor Katie, and that was the reason her career ended. Not because of a series of awful decisions unbefitting of a Congresswoman, but only because of her vindictive husband and nasty right wing media.

    I guess she feels this is what she needs to do in order to get the SJW crowd fired up enough to where she can support herself as Professional Victim (see Sarkeesian, Anita), but it's really off-putting how she just won't take responsibility for anything, yet she also won't go away.
    I really don't buy it that you are pissed because someone hooked up with a member or their staff who was 10 years younger and then didn't apologize enough or accept full responsibility for their actions.

    I think you really just like pointing out anytime it comes to your attention that a LGBT Liberal Female did something stupid or wrong. Kate Hall, Vanessa Selbst, Vanessa Ruosso, Those lesbians that drove their car off the cliff, The ones with the fisting art in the library, the Lesbian Astronauts...

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    She's not the victim of anything.

    She should just go away but we all know she can't because she needs to make $ to live the lifestyle she wanted by being in Congress.
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    I'd say good luck in the freeroll but I'm pretty sure you'll go on a bender to self-sabotage yourself & miss it completely or use it as the excuse of why you didn't cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Also, this isn't really a classic case of revenge porn.

    If her husband simply leaked nudes or sexual photos of her after their divorce, that would have been revenge porn, and I'd agree she was a victim.

    Here the "revenge porn" was actually photographic evidence of her engaging in inappropriate behavior (having a sexual relationship with an underling), so it was far more than just, "Hey everyone, check out Katie Hill nude!"

    In fact, apparently there were far dirtier and explicit pics obtained by RedState ad Daily Mail, but both publications had the decency to refuse to publish those, and instead they only published the tamer ones which still got the point across.

    I have a hard time feeling that sorry for a member of Congress whose sexual trysts with underlings end up as salacious photos on the internet. They should know better than do this in the first place.

    I think everyone is drawing conclusions without having completed an evidentiary review. Until we have thoroughly reviewed those (unedited) dirty and explicit pics, we’re not qualified to draw any conclusion on this.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by duped_samaritan View Post
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    I think you're missing my point.

    I don't feel she needs to go on an endless apology tour. Had she resigned and just gone away quietly, I'd be fine with that.

    The problem is that she's now trying to ride the "I'm a victim" train to her next career (public speaker?), which is why she keeps popping back up over and over with various "omg look how badly I was exploited" statements.

    This most recent op-ed in the NY Times was long and detailed. Surely she could have taken a few sentences there to apologize and reiterate that employer/employee sexual relationships are wrong, especially in Congress.

    Absent from this piece is any real form of personal responsibility. We get an overly detailed walkthrough of her attempts to cut her wrists in the bathtub, but oddly not a single mention of the fresh-out-of-college female staffer that she and her husband exploited for sexual thrills, and no look into her mindset which caused these bad decisions on her part.

    Instead, we are supposed to walk away from the piece with the belief that big, bad, mean people were victimizing poor Katie, and that was the reason her career ended. Not because of a series of awful decisions unbefitting of a Congresswoman, but only because of her vindictive husband and nasty right wing media.

    I guess she feels this is what she needs to do in order to get the SJW crowd fired up enough to where she can support herself as Professional Victim (see Sarkeesian, Anita), but it's really off-putting how she just won't take responsibility for anything, yet she also won't go away.
    I really don't buy it that you are pissed because someone hooked up with a member or their staff who was 10 years younger and then didn't apologize enough or accept full responsibility for their actions.

    I think you really just like pointing out anytime it comes to your attention that a LGBT Liberal Female did something stupid or wrong. Kate Hall, Vanessa Selbst, Vanessa Ruosso, Those lesbians that drove their car off the cliff, The ones with the fisting art in the library, the Lesbian Astronauts...
    I'm not pissed.

    I don't really care that much about it from a moral standpoint. The story itself is just interesting because of all the dysfunction surrounding it.

    I do feel she needs to take responsibility for her own actions, and stop playing victim.

    Regarding the various lesbian-related stories out here, I'm not out there looking for them. I just have found that a lot of them were interesting stories in themselves. As you've seen, I've posted plenty of critical stories about dudes, and in fact most of my critical posts on this forum (about people who aren't PFA members) are about men. Go look for yourself.

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