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    $400? I just don't get it.
    It would cost more than that to get me to sign anything, let alone if I had been cheated. The players engaged in the effort of signing onto the lawsuit- why quit for $400?

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    https://www.wired.com/story/stones-p...ating-scandal/

    Very good article about the situation in WIRED, including backstories about Postle and Veronica.

    As you'll see from the article, Veronica had both a tough early life and a very tough beat more recently (she had a baby who was born with health issues, and died of cancer at age 3.)

    You'll get a feel for how heartless some of the trolls were who were attacking her about this and other personal things.

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    http://www.miraclecovers.com

    "Donk down, that’s what you say to someone after they have lost 28K straight?" - Phil Hellmuth, online

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    It's worth noting that instead of suing Hanson, Polk, Galfond, Little, and Berkey directly, he is suing their LLCs: Crush Live Poker (Hanson), Solve For Why (Berkey), Upswing Poker (Polk), Jonathan Little Holdings (Little), and Run It Once (Galfond).

    This appears to be an attempt to reach into deep pockets.

    I can only comment somewhat on this, because I'm going to retain legal counsel and follow their advice regarding what to say and not to say publicly.

    However, I will state this:

    1) The lawsuit is obviously frivolous. I will vigorously fight this lawsuit, and will not settle under any circumstances.

    2) I have never been sued before as a result of anything PokerFraudAlert-related, or related to any forum or social media. However, as an outspoken member of the community who calls out wrongdoing, I have always known that a day like this might come. I am ready to fight this, and am confident that this malicious attempt to silence my speech will not be successful.


    Also, don't make too much of "John Does 1 to 1000".

    That is a standard legal mechanism which allows the plaintiff to dodge the statute of limitations by giving them the ability to add more plaintiffs later.

    This is very common in such suits, and shouldn't be read as anything significant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    It's worth noting that instead of suing Hanson, Polk, Galfond, Little, and Berkey directly, he is suing their LLCs: Crush Live Poker (Hanson), Solve For Why (Berkey), Upswing Poker (Polk), Jonathan Little Holdings (Little), and Run It Once (Galfond).

    This appears to be an attempt to reach into deep pockets.

    I can only comment somewhat on this, because I'm going to retain legal counsel and follow their advice regarding what to say and not to say publicly.

    However, I will state this:

    1) The lawsuit is obviously frivolous. I will vigorously fight this lawsuit, and will not settle under any circumstances.

    2) I have never been sued before as a result of anything PokerFraudAlert-related, or related to any forum or social media. However, as an outspoken member of the community who calls out wrongdoing, I have always known that a day like this might come. I am ready to fight this, and am confident that this malicious attempt to silence my speech will not be successful.


    Also, don't make too much of "John Does 1 to 1000".

    That is a standard legal mechanism which allows the plaintiff to dodge the statute of limitations by giving them the ability to add more plaintiffs later.

    This is very common in such suits, and shouldn't be read as anything significant.

    actually, makes no sense not to sue both them individually an their llcs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigerpiper View Post
    $400? I just don't get it.
    It would cost more than that to get me to sign anything, let alone if I had been cheated. The players engaged in the effort of signing onto the lawsuit- why quit for $400?

    Because Mac made $16,000 to set up the plaintiffs for round two?

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    BUMP

    Postle went onto Spaces today and claimed he was innocent.

    He challenged Veronica to a 1-on-1 in person debate on Hustler Casino Live, which I'd love to see happen.

    I didn't hear all 2 hours yet, but I don't believe I was mentioned.

    Here is a recording of it:


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    Todd, I"m pretty sure he DOES mention you, in the later part. I'm trying to find the timestamp. OK i found the timestamp. 1:42:10 mark, he just finished saying he wants to have an in person meeting with Veronica, and then he says, "I see one of em's listening right now...you know.. Todd...you never reached out to me...not once...probably time you do that...if you want...since I'm seeing him hear (laughs)".

    This is amusing because I can remember countless times where you said "Mike, feel free to contact me, talk to me, come on the show, etc".

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    God this is awful. I'm 1 hour and 10 minutes into it so far and I've heard absolutely nothing.

    "I didn't do it...they were inaccurate with their findings...I can't say much though...I didn't do it"

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by AhoosierA View Post
    God this is awful. I'm 1 hour and 10 minutes into it so far and I've heard absolutely nothing.

    "I didn't do it...they were inaccurate with their findings...I can't say much though...I didn't do it"

    He’s one of the worst talkers I’ve ever heard. Couldn’t last 10 minutes. Fucking brutal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDime View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AhoosierA View Post
    God this is awful. I'm 1 hour and 10 minutes into it so far and I've heard absolutely nothing.

    "I didn't do it...they were inaccurate with their findings...I can't say much though...I didn't do it"

    He’s one of the worst talkers I’ve ever heard. Couldn’t last 10 minutes. Fucking brutal.
    That Spencer guy from YouTube will be doing a video with Postle, debunking the cheating accusations of course.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by philosopher View Post
    Todd, I"m pretty sure he DOES mention you, in the later part. I'm trying to find the timestamp. OK i found the timestamp. 1:42:10 mark, he just finished saying he wants to have an in person meeting with Veronica, and then he says, "I see one of em's listening right now...you know.. Todd...you never reached out to me...not once...probably time you do that...if you want...since I'm seeing him hear (laughs)".

    This is amusing because I can remember countless times where you said "Mike, feel free to contact me, talk to me, come on the show, etc".
    Yeah it's complete bullshit.

    One of his friends was DMing me on Twitter, and eventually came on PFA Radio to debate me about Postle. I passed messages through this guy that I'll be happy to talk to Mike. The main response Mike gave was that he wanted to tie it to my dropping of the $27k he owes me, which of course is a big no.

    There was also some talk of meeting me in person and talking, which I don't see as being necessary, but I'd be willing to do if it's not a lot of trouble. Like, I'm not traveling for it, but if it's at WSOP or something, I'm willing. But again, I'm not waiving the $$ he owes. That money is his own fault. He induced loads of legal work for my attorney (Eric Bensamochan) when we kept giving him a chance to just drop me out and owe nothing.

     
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    Haven't watched it yet but Veronica Brill did a break down of Postle's twitter space


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    Yeah I'm not gonna listen to anything Veronica puts out. Big time backstabber and phony. Not interested in anything she has to say.

    But I will do my own analysis soon on radio regarding the Postle appearance.

     
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    @AHoosierA, Yeah I was gonna post this if you didn't; I'm interested in hearing what she has to say about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AhoosierA View Post
    Haven't watched it yet but Veronica Brill did a break down of Postle's twitter space

    She points out she has a lien on Mike Postle's winnings in 3 states. seems like a good strategy - if he does actually play and win anything, you get your money, and if this causes him to just NOT want to play any tournaments, hey that's a win also.

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    There are more twists and turns to this story than the early seasons of Game of Thrones!

    With that said, what's the general consensus of the viewers? Did Postle cheat with crotch-theory-optimal or was it all just vicious slander?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canuckian View Post
    There are more twists and turns to this story than the early seasons of Game of Thrones!

    With that said, what's the general consensus of the viewers? Did Postle cheat with crotch-theory-optimal or was it all just vicious slander?
    At the moment, almost everyone is on the side of "Postle cheated". That's why he's claiming to be so angry. Basically he's saying that he didn't do it, that Veronica set him up to gain status in the poker community, and that his rep has been forever ruined in poker.

    The problem -- and I've pointed it out many times -- is that unlike Robbi Jade Lew, we have many hundreds of hours of footage of his 18 months worth of play on stream. Judging Robbi's situation on one hand was impossible. But I haven't seen one example of a stream where Postle was making unbelievable soul reads, but then made a big mistake for a lot of money on the turn or river.

    Any stream where he made amazing plays, he seemed to be right 100% of the time if the pot was big.

    I've asked him to show me counter-examples which disprove the above statement, and he's never been able to provide any.

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    Quote Originally Posted by philosopher View Post

    She points out she has a lien on Mike Postle's winnings in 3 states. seems like a good strategy - if he does actually play and win anything, you get your money, and if this causes him to just NOT want to play any tournaments, hey that's a win also.
    Time to get your lien on Todd.

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