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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post


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    Wow. Look how he gets off so cheap on trips, by checking the flop, firing small on turn (hoping to fold to a raise, presumably), and then folding to a bet on the river.

    More importantly, look how he keep pressing on his hat while he's "deciding" what to do.

    He so clearly has an accomplice communicating with him.
    Veronica’s video about Justin and the microphone seem to explain this. Looks like they were in it together. What a mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    In 2016, a Caesars bankruptcy filing included Mike Postle (definitely the same guy, based upon address) as someone who owed them money:

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...kz68InY1esf-di

    Go to page 257.
    He said on a stream that he was banned from Caesars and couldn't play WSOP. Is this why?

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    Hey Druff:

    Listening to your recap for PodCast #2.

    If Postle is playing all of these tournaments at Thunder Valley (95%), none of which are verified with a cash by his Hendon Mob results, shouldn't he have the entry receipts to document his entries (and losses)?

    You know, to offset all of those cash game cashes. Seems like any reasonable person would be saving those receipts if they are being truthful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post


    Go to 1:48:18

    Wow. Look how he gets off so cheap on trips, by checking the flop, firing small on turn (hoping to fold to a raise, presumably), and then folding to a bet on the river.

    More importantly, look how he keep pressing on his hat while he's "deciding" what to do.

    He so clearly has an accomplice communicating with him.
    While I'm convinced that Postle cheated in these games, I will defend his play on this particular hand as not unusual for a non-cheating player with a lot of live play experience at lower NLHE stakes. Here's why: The exaggerated physical check on the flop by the guy with A4 is a dead giveaway by most small stakes rec players as showing-weakness-to-hide-strength. Can't tell you how many times I saw this playing at that level back in AC. A lot of rec players at the level just can't control themselves in hands that like with that tell. After I learned this the hard way, I saved myself a lot of money with seemingly appealing second-best hands like Postle's in such situations. Meaning, i would have most likely played the hand the same way as Postle right down to folding on the river absent superuser knowledge of my opponents hand, especially with so many preflop callers in the hand.

     
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    We have a horrible choice between a super-shady, self-serving, lying criminal (Hillary Clinton) and an emotionally-unbalanced, shoot-from-the-hip authoritarian who lacks the intellectual curiosity to even want to learn the complexities that come with running a major nation like the US (Donald Trump).

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    Guy on Reddit made a long post with this video that could show when the cheating first started (July 18, 2018)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrSayre View Post
    Guy on Reddit made a long post with this video that could show when the cheating first started (July 18, 2018)
    Best video yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post


    Go to 1:48:18

    Wow. Look how he gets off so cheap on trips, by checking the flop, firing small on turn (hoping to fold to a raise, presumably), and then folding to a bet on the river.
    He bet the flop (2x pot) - pot size bet on the turn and then folded when the guy donk bet the river for more than pot.


    Quote Originally Posted by MumblesBadly View Post
    While I'm convinced that Postle cheated in these games, I will defend his play on this particular hand as not unusual for a non-cheating player with a lot of live play experience at lower NLHE stakes. Here's why: The exaggerated physical check on the flop by the guy with A4 is a dead giveaway by most small stakes rec players as showing-weakness-to-hide-strength. Can't tell you how many times I saw this playing at that level back in AC. A lot of rec players at the level just can't control themselves in hands that like with that tell. After I learned this the hard way, I saved myself a lot of money with seemingly appealing second-best hands like Postle's in such situations. Meaning, i would have most likely played the hand the same way as Postle right down to folding on the river absent superuser knowledge of my opponents hand, especially with so many preflop callers in the hand.


    Yeah, he got pretty lucky that guy decided to donk the river (which was dumb). Not that tough of a fold depending on the player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duped_samaritan View Post
    He bet the flop (2x pot) - pot size bet on the turn and then folded when the guy donk bet the river for more than pot.


    Quote Originally Posted by MumblesBadly View Post
    While I'm convinced that Postle cheated in these games, I will defend his play on this particular hand as not unusual for a non-cheating player with a lot of live play experience at lower NLHE stakes. Here's why: The exaggerated physical check on the flop by the guy with A4 is a dead giveaway by most small stakes rec players as showing-weakness-to-hide-strength. Can't tell you how many times I saw this playing at that level back in AC. A lot of rec players at the level just can't control themselves in hands that like with that tell. After I learned this the hard way, I saved myself a lot of money with seemingly appealing second-best hands like Postle's in such situations. Meaning, i would have most likely played the hand the same way as Postle right down to folding on the river absent superuser knowledge of my opponents hand, especially with so many preflop callers in the hand.


    Yeah, he got pretty lucky that guy decided to donk the river (which was dumb). Not that tough of a fold depending on the player.
    It would have been interesting to see what Postle would have done if A4 had checked the river. To feign not being a superuser, Postle would have had to bet something, but would he have been smart enough to do so? Or even bet a reasonable amount for a river value bet?
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    We have a horrible choice between a super-shady, self-serving, lying criminal (Hillary Clinton) and an emotionally-unbalanced, shoot-from-the-hip authoritarian who lacks the intellectual curiosity to even want to learn the complexities that come with running a major nation like the US (Donald Trump).

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    Quote Originally Posted by MumblesBadly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by duped_samaritan View Post
    He bet the flop (2x pot) - pot size bet on the turn and then folded when the guy donk bet the river for more than pot.






    Yeah, he got pretty lucky that guy decided to donk the river (which was dumb). Not that tough of a fold depending on the player.
    It would have been interesting to see what Postle would have done if A4 had checked the river. To feign not being a superuser, Postle would have had to bet something, but would he have been smart enough to do so? Or even bet a reasonable amount for a river value bet?
    He would have bet small and then folded to any sizable raise. He was actually pretty good at betting-to-fold in spots where he couldn't check/fold without looking ridiculous.

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    Anyone, there's no way to lay down 42o there. Your opponent is much more likely to have a Q than a 4 for two reasons (a Q is more likely to be played pre, and there's only one unseen 4 left in the deck). The way everything played out, it was much more likely that Postle's opponent had a Q or a non-full-house pocket pair than a 4 or a boat. You simply can't fold to that overbet, unless it's really huge (which it wasn't.)

    If you're folding to that bet with trip 4s, you're going to get bluffed a shitload of times.

    And if you have a tell, you had better be certain it's a great tell.

    BTW, I actually had a similar spot in the WSOP Main versus a good player (Jerod Smith, who also ended up cashing $59k like I did.)

    It was on Day 2, and everyone was really really focusing upon getting to the bathroom quickly, given the massive crowds and wait times. A hand was dealt right before the break started, and I could see everyone couldn't wait to pop up. I had Q8 suited in middle position, and open-raised it, hoping to steal (also the hand wasn't bad, obviously).

    Smith flatted me from the button. I asked, "Can't you just let me steal the blinds when everyone wants to go to the bathroom?", and he responded, "I've got to try and flop something."

    Flop came QQx with two diamonds. I bet flop, he called. I wasn't happy about that. I hated my kicker, and didn't want to shoot off a ton of chips on this in the very slow moving Main, so I actually check/called both the turn and river (both blanks) -- with the river call being a tank because he bet fairly big. Turned out he had 96 suited and missed his flush draw, so we were both telling the truth. I was trying to steal during the bathroom break, and he was trying to flop something, knowing I probably was trying to steal!

    Anyway, when it was all said and done, I couldn't lay down the trips/bad-kicker, even at the very slow moving Main Event. In a cash game, it's very hard to get people off trips, unless you really rip in a monster bet.

    On a side note, Smith has been actively following and analyzing this entire matter.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Anyone, there's no way to lay down 42o there. Your opponent is much more likely to have a Q than a 4 for two reasons (a Q is more likely to be played pre, and there's only one unseen 4 left in the deck). The way everything played out, it was much more likely that Postle's opponent had a Q or a non-full-house pocket pair than a 4 or a boat. You simply can't fold to that overbet, unless it's really huge (which it wasn't.)

    If you're folding to that bet with trip 4s, you're going to get bluffed a shitload of times.


    There are definitely bluffs in his range, just not very many. 42 is just a bluff catcher at that point and you're facing a bigger than pot size bet. It's a pretty easy fold against most players.

     
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    Matusow was good on NWP radio many years ago (if the pussy tastes good, I'll eat it) but that 2 part podcast was terrible.

    Might listen again onc Postle is found hella guilty to see if Matusow backtracks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by duped_samaritan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Anyone, there's no way to lay down 42o there. Your opponent is much more likely to have a Q than a 4 for two reasons (a Q is more likely to be played pre, and there's only one unseen 4 left in the deck). The way everything played out, it was much more likely that Postle's opponent had a Q or a non-full-house pocket pair than a 4 or a boat. You simply can't fold to that overbet, unless it's really huge (which it wasn't.)

    If you're folding to that bet with trip 4s, you're going to get bluffed a shitload of times.


    There are definitely bluffs in his range, just not very many. 42 is just a bluff catcher at that point and you're facing a bigger than pot size bet. It's a pretty easy fold against most players.
    Betting with a Q isn't a bluff. It's a value bet. Even a decent pocket pair is a value bet, as it will often be called by lower pocket pairs.

    42 is not at all a bluff catcher at that point. It's not like the board is 4-flushed or 4-straighted.

    If you fold trip 4s to a mild overbet in that spot, you probably aren't a winning player.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by zealanddonk View Post
    Matusow was good on NWP radio many years ago (if the pussy tastes good, I'll eat it) but that 2 part podcast was terrible.

    Might listen again onc Postle is found hella guilty to see if Matusow backtracks.
    When Matusow was on with Joey shortly after the podcast's release, he was already implying that he didn't believe Postle, and that he would "reveal his true feelings in 3 weeks".

    As time has passed, I have become more of the belief that Matusow probably did the right thing by just letting Postle ramble like an idiot, rather than piss him off and drive him off.

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    Emergency Deep Dive! Matt Berkey and Christian Soto react to the fallout with Stone's Casino and discuss how Mike Postle may have used RFID technology to activate God-mode.


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    ABC 10 in Sacramento covered this, also as a result of my friend contacting them.

    They didn't do a very good job, though:

    https://www.abc10.com/article/news/l...c-ea75ee760a27

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