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    Stones livestream player Mike Postle accused of "live superusing"

    Really interesting story, and in fact would be a case of life imitating art, if true.

    On December 5, 2005, during the peak of the poker boom, the fictional drama TV show "Las Vegas" aired an episode about an amateur female poker player winning a poker tournament by seemingly making impossibly good reads. It turned out that the woman was in cahoots with someone on the staff which televised the final table, and gave her a signal whenever her opponent didn't really have a hand. This gave her the ability to put a ton of pressure on opponents and always get them to fold when weak.

    In the story, Howard Lederer (playing himself) helped analyze the play and stated that it was just too good to be true, which led to the heroes cracking the scheme and busting both conspirators.

    Of course, this was all fiction. To my knowledge, this has never occurred in real life. Despite the danger of televised events possibly allowing for cheating, I haven't heard of any verified (or even credibly accused) instances of it actually occurring.

    Until now.

    Mike Postle is a mostly-unknown player. He has racked up a lot of tournament cashes over the years, adding up to over $500k. However, no cash was over $118k, and most of the tournaments he's entered in the last few years have been low stakes.



    He's recently been playing on the Stones Live stream, which is similar to Live at the Bike. Stones is located in the Sacramento area. Two years ago, I appeared on the stream, playing 100-200 limit holdem.

    An issue was recently raised by Stones sometimes-commentator/sometimes-player Veronica, aka "Angry Polak".

    Veronica was born in Poland but has spent most of her time in the US. She's 42 years old, but looks good for her age.



    That's actually not even a good picture of her. I saw her two years ago in person and she looked very good, though not quite as good as her super-filtered pics on her Twitter. But I digress.


    Veronica recently raised an issue on Twitter about Mike Postle's crushing of Stones Live, where he seemingly picks off all bluffs and just soul reads everyone.

    Here's a compilation of hands:



    Here's another one, though this is one of the rare times it didn't work out for Postle, as a fish with A9o couldn't let go of his A9 high for a ton of money!





    Here are Veronica's tweets about it:








    Stones gave this response:



    They were not clear what this "investigation" entailed.

    Mike Postle has not been known to be a particularly tough or soul-reading player outside of the Stones Live stream.

    There is some legitimate fear that he has someone on the inside signaling him in some way when his opponent does or doesn't have a hand.

    Here's his Twitter, where he denies it: https://twitter.com/Mike_Postle


    I have an idea... why doesn't he come down to play at Live at the Bike instead, and we can see if he has the same abilities?

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    Here's a post from a new account created on 2+2 to post on the matter, so take it with a grain of salt:

    Quote Originally Posted by pollywog1
    I live in the Sacramento area and have played with Postle for the past couple years, with the vast majority of play being on the StonesLive games. The reason that it's been that venue is simple, despite being a massive winner and being on a heater for the past year, Postle really only plays 1-3 times a week on the stream games.

    That is to say, despite playing full-time professionally, he eschews similar size or bigger games against the same player pool that have run at other cardrooms the other nights of the week. We don't see him in the bigger games around town, but surprisingly he plays in the $10 $25 $50 stream game on Sept 21 for 5-10x the stakes and unsurprisingly wins 20k.

    In all the time that we've played and all the streams I've watched, he bobs and weaves and has near flawless timing to fold correctly when beat or badly behind, call correctly, value bet razor thin against weaker hands, bluff when his opponents are weak, and rebluff when his opponents are bluffing. I think it's also worth noting that he almost always racks up when the stream ends.

    While reviewing all the hands will be circumstantial, as is my anecdotal contribution here, I think it's worth mentioning that finding a random hand where he makes a mistake (and they are hard to find) shouldn't immediately invalidate suspicion because any smart cheater would want to throw people off his scent. Similarly, his tournament success and the fact that he is a smart and capable poker player off the livestream shouldn't eliminate the possibility that something is amiss.
    Source: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...&postcount=135

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    disclaimer: i watched very few hands

    that being said, one of the things that stuck out for me, when he did "have" to lose a hand and wanted to add-on, he did it in cash

    kinda weird that the casino's biggest high stakes winner doesn't have some high denomination chips in his pocket but instead pulls out a grand or two in cash

    but i guess if you were cheating, you'd hate to get caught with $100k in chips that are now worthless

     
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    let's not rule out it was just a big misunderstanding
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    Chicago Joey has jumped all over this one.

    Currently he's live streaming replays of Postle's hands, but whatever. Those will be discussed at length by many in the coming weeks. Let's focus on some more tangible stuff.

    Joey (or someone assisting him) came up with this:

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    That's Mike's Linkedin page which was deleted as soon as this scandal hit!

    Also, Joey posted this YouTube video of a 2017 interview with Stones where Mike talks about this "Dream Seat Poker Show" he set up there:



    So Postle definitely had some kind of consulting job with Stones involving production of a poker show, presumably also involving hole card information.

    Verrrrrrrrrrrry suspicious. Especially the deleted Linkedin.

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    Go to 19:40 of this video:



    Postle has 88, opponent has TT.

    Flop comes 994. Turn T. River 8.

    Instead of check-raising big, Postle just check-calls $200.

    The commentators said, "There's nobody better than Mike right now."

    I'll say.

    This was in November 2018, so this crap has been going on for at least a year or so.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    ...An issue was recently raised by Stones sometimes-commentator/sometimes-player Veronica, aka "Angry Polak".

    Veronica was born in Poland but has spent most of her time in the US. She's 42 years old, but looks good for her age.

    ...

    That's actually not even a good picture of her. I saw her two years ago in person and she looked very good, though not quite as good as her super-filtered pics on her Twitter. But I digress...
    Why do you always do this? What possible importance does her attractiveness, or lack thereof, have to do with this at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KidPresentable View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    ...An issue was recently raised by Stones sometimes-commentator/sometimes-player Veronica, aka "Angry Polak".

    Veronica was born in Poland but has spent most of her time in the US. She's 42 years old, but looks good for her age.

    ...

    That's actually not even a good picture of her. I saw her two years ago in person and she looked very good, though not quite as good as her super-filtered pics on her Twitter. But I digress...
    Why do you always do this? What possible importance does her attractiveness, or lack thereof, have to do with this at all?
    I like describing anything or anyone which might be unusual.

    A pretty Polish-born early-40s woman is a bit different than the typical poker pro you run into. I was being complimentary in my description, so there really shouldn't be a problem here.

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    Mike Postle just accidentally doxed himself on his own website that he claims to not own.



    RounderLife is a website/magazine that has constantly goes to bat for Mike Postle, fudging the numbers from Stones Live streams to make him look innocent. He was clearly one of the co-founders of the company, as the early editions of the magazine name him 2nd in the masthead.

    Basically, Postle clearly is an owner of the website and uses it to try to defend himself.

    Today they wrote about his motion to dismiss, which as Mac notes above, was not a matter of public record: https://www.rounderlife.com/mike-pos...on-to-dismiss/

    https://www.rounderlife.com/wp-conte...OTION-_002.pdf

    A cursory glance at that doc will tell you that him publishing it was a


     
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    The current owner of Rounder Life (well, the owner who isn't Mike Postle) follows me on Twitter and apparently sometimes listens to PFA Radio.

    I might be able to get him to come on the show. In fact, I think I'll send him a message tonight and ask.

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    Be sure to ask him about this



    I'm sure it's all just a misunderstanding

     
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    On the top-left of Page 1 of that document:

    Michael Postle
    3724 Deerwalk Way
    Antelope, CA 95843
    Telephone: (916) 790-4112
    jrstoxg@yahoo.com


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    Hot off the Haley Hintze press, released seconds ago: https://kickasspoker.com/michael-pos...filing-posted/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    On the top-left of Page 1 of that document:

    Michael Postle
    3724 Deerwalk Way
    Antelope, CA 95843
    Telephone: (916) 790-4112
    jrstoxg@yahoo.com

    Why do I get the sense that Postle’s phone number will change really soon?
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    We have a horrible choice between a super-shady, self-serving, lying criminal (Hillary Clinton) and an emotionally-unbalanced, shoot-from-the-hip authoritarian who lacks the intellectual curiosity to even want to learn the complexities that come with running a major nation like the US (Donald Trump).

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    I might be able to get rick sanchez to come on the show.
    Lotta baggage between you two. That’s a strong move.

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