The Ideal Male Physique — What girls want & what guys want to be

[fluffer]

http://foxhoundstudio.com/blog/fitne...ys-want-to-be/

interesting read

[Vwls]

No big surprise here in terms of the female responses - most humans/animals are sexually attracted to body types perceived as "healthy" - it's the evolutionary mandate. The only shock is that so many men said they wanted to look like the body builder, but I would chalk that up to responder bias (the population that responded to the survey were people interested in fitness to begin with, so not a representative sample).

[ErickAA]

Horribly designed study. That Brad Pitt Fight Club picture is WAY too iconic. Most chicks are going to know exactly who that is even without the face, or they at least are going to subconsciously recognize it and be more likely to choose it.

Also, most of the more chosen pics are of dudes who are 150-175 pounds. Although this might be what looks good on paper, I think in real life most chicks are going to be more attracted to bigger men, even if they are a little softer.

[Deal]

How can they have a competition about physical attraction without showing the size of his...





























... wallet

[mulva]

BEAUTIFUL WOMAN IN PAINTING
Maybe YOU can help me.

DEUCE BIGALOW
Really?

BEAUTIFUL WOMAN IN PAINTING
I don't want a man who's chiseled and sculpted. I like soft and weak.

DEUCE BIGALOW
You do?

BEAUTIFUL WOMAN IN PAINTING
I want a man who's unemployed. And went to a community college.

DEUCE BIGALOW
I am...and I did.

BEAUTIFUL WOMAN IN PAINTING
And you know what really turns me on?

DEUCE BIGALOW
What?

BEAUTIFUL WOMAN IN PAINTING
Is thinking about him in his tighty whities...sitting at his computer...and visiting different porn sites...and taking the free tour...with no intention of ever joining.

DEUCE BIGALOW
I don't have a credit card!

[OSA]

Women often perceive the big muscular dude as potentially dangerous and therefore rather date the lean and toned dudes. Severaly REAL studies support this.

[Sol]

Women often perceive the big muscular dude as potentially dangerous and therefore rather date the lean and toned dudes. Severaly REAL studies support this.

apparently not this one

[BCR]

Women, in my experience, lie. Don't get me wrong, they often believe their lie, but it's conditioning to a certain degree. Men lie also. If asked what you desire you'd often answer a nice girl, family-oriented, girl next door type, etc. right before you fuck a stripper while your nice girl watches Dancing with the Stars alone waiting for you to get home. Every time you encounter some poll about what women find appealing the answer will be sense of humor, respect, etc., right before they go fuck some bouncer behind the nice guy's back. A great sense of humor will allow you to overachieve, but Chris Farley was still paying whores to keep his company, so it's largely bullshit. We're all primal base animals at heart.

For both men and women, nothing trumps facial attractiveness. You can't be fat, everything else is out the window if you're fat. So they'll always prefer a lean guy who is good looking to an ugly gym rat, but in general, men strive to look like what they see girls going for despite what women say they are looking for. Many men fuck that up because they aren't honest with the mirror. You want muscle symmetry, small waist, etc. You want to be lean, even if it's at the expense of more muscle. There is a certain body weight for each individual where they are most facially attractive, and that's usually the sweet spot as to how much muscle you can hold. If they prefer athletic it's because most guys are more attractive at a slimmer weight than they walk around at. Women don't like blocky, so if lifting hard makes you blocky, you are better off being slimmer. It is just based on each person and their stature, etc.

The thing about men who live in the gym is they are largely idiots, like 97%. Stereotypes are true. They are the equivalent of the blond with fake tits and tan who works as a cocktail waitress at 30. You get a lot of attention from the wrong type of women, and not enough from the hot educated female. But if you can hold a conversation with the educated girl where she starts to see you as intellectually fit as well as physically fit, they usually go out of their minds and fall hard. A true bodybuilder who is 5'9 250lbs is only attractive to a small subset of women, but a muscular guy who isn't a monster is appealing to almost all of them if you can form a sentence.

The tatted up skinny clown shown in a few of those photos does well in his 20's, but he's dead in the water come his 30's unless he brings much more to the table than that guy usually does. Muscle is good, as long as it isn't too much, but a certain amount of muscle is favorable, and the poll ignores other things that women find attractive. Women like men who they visually see get the respect of other men. It turns them on if you're feared or taken seriously. They like a man's man, and a 140lb guy isn't often viewed as that. A poll like this ignores that dynamic of attraction and psychology. Women like power over anything else, whether it comes from money, position, physique, danger, or charisma mixed with other attributes.

[Steve-O]

Women, in my experience, lie. Don't get me wrong, they often believe their lie, but it's conditioning to a certain degree. Men lie also. If asked what you desire you'd often answer a nice girl, family-oriented, girl next door type, etc. right before you fuck a stripper while your nice girl watches Dancing with the Stars alone waiting for you to get home. Every time you encounter some poll about what women find appealing the answer will be sense of humor, respect, etc., right before they go fuck some bouncer behind the nice guy's back. A great sense of humor will allow you to overachieve, but Chris Farley was still paying whores to keep his company, so it's largely bullshit. We're all primal base animals at heart.

For both men and women, nothing trumps facial attractiveness. You can't be fat, everything else is out the window if you're fat. So they'll always prefer a lean guy who is good looking to an ugly gym rat, but in general, men strive to look like what they see girls going for despite what women say they are looking for. Many men fuck that up because they aren't honest with the mirror. You want muscle symmetry, small waist, etc. You want to be lean, even if it's at the expense of more muscle. There is a certain body weight for each individual where they are most facially attractive, and that's usually the sweet spot as to how much muscle you can hold. If they prefer athletic it's because most guys are more attractive at a slimmer weight than they walk around at. Women don't like blocky, so if lifting hard makes you blocky, you are better off being slimmer. It is just based on each person and their stature, etc.

The thing about men who live in the gym is they are largely idiots, like 97%. Stereotypes are true. They are the equivalent of the blond with fake tits and tan who works as a cocktail waitress at 30. You get a lot of attention from the wrong type of women, and not enough from the hot educated female. But if you can hold a conversation with the educated girl where she starts to see you as intellectually fit as well as physically fit, they usually go out of their minds and fall hard. A true bodybuilder who is 5'9 250lbs is only attractive to a small subset of women, but a muscular guy who isn't a monster is appealing to almost all of them if you can form a sentence.

The tatted up skinny clown shown in a few of those photos does well in his 20's, but he's dead in the water come his 30's unless he brings much more to the table than that guy usually does. Muscle is good, as long as it isn't too much, but a certain amount of muscle is favorable, and the poll ignores other things that women find attractive. Women like men who they visually see get the respect of other men. It turns them on if you're feared or taken seriously. They like a man's man, and a 140lb guy isn't often viewed as that. A poll like this ignores that dynamic of attraction and psychology. Women like power over anything else, whether it comes from money, position, physique, danger, or charisma mixed with other attributes.

This is pretty spot on start to finish: What gets you laid at 21 is way different than what gets you laid at 25, which is way different than waht gets you laid at 35. As far as bodybuilders: I worked in a gym and every woman who ever said "he's so big that's not attractive" while in the gym, would be all over the musclehead out at a club. But that's for hooking up. for long-term relationships women tend to go for what I call the Abercrombie model: good looking, charismatic, about 6'1" and 190lbs with abs. And the older you get the more your state of mind and intellect matter. Also, nothing makes a guy more attractive than a bulge in his pocket, be it front or back, and if you have a bulge in both you could like quasimodo.

[NaturalBornHustler]

Women, in my experience, lie. Don't get me wrong, they often believe their lie, but it's conditioning to a certain degree. Men lie also. If asked what you desire you'd often answer a nice girl, family-oriented, girl next door type, etc. right before you fuck a stripper while your nice girl watches Dancing with the Stars alone waiting for you to get home. Every time you encounter some poll about what women find appealing the answer will be sense of humor, respect, etc., right before they go fuck some bouncer behind the nice guy's back. A great sense of humor will allow you to overachieve, but Chris Farley was still paying whores to keep his company, so it's largely bullshit. We're all primal base animals at heart.

For both men and women, nothing trumps facial attractiveness. You can't be fat, everything else is out the window if you're fat. So they'll always prefer a lean guy who is good looking to an ugly gym rat, but in general, men strive to look like what they see girls going for despite what women say they are looking for. Many men fuck that up because they aren't honest with the mirror. You want muscle symmetry, small waist, etc. You want to be lean, even if it's at the expense of more muscle. There is a certain body weight for each individual where they are most facially attractive, and that's usually the sweet spot as to how much muscle you can hold. If they prefer athletic it's because most guys are more attractive at a slimmer weight than they walk around at. Women don't like blocky, so if lifting hard makes you blocky, you are better off being slimmer. It is just based on each person and their stature, etc.

The thing about men who live in the gym is they are largely idiots, like 97%. Stereotypes are true. They are the equivalent of the blond with fake tits and tan who works as a cocktail waitress at 30. You get a lot of attention from the wrong type of women, and not enough from the hot educated female. But if you can hold a conversation with the educated girl where she starts to see you as intellectually fit as well as physically fit, they usually go out of their minds and fall hard. A true bodybuilder who is 5'9 250lbs is only attractive to a small subset of women, but a muscular guy who isn't a monster is appealing to almost all of them if you can form a sentence.

The tatted up skinny clown shown in a few of those photos does well in his 20's, but he's dead in the water come his 30's unless he brings much more to the table than that guy usually does. Muscle is good, as long as it isn't too much, but a certain amount of muscle is favorable, and the poll ignores other things that women find attractive. Women like men who they visually see get the respect of other men. It turns them on if you're feared or taken seriously. They like a man's man, and a 140lb guy isn't often viewed as that. A poll like this ignores that dynamic of attraction and psychology. Women like power over anything else, whether it comes from money, position, physique, danger, or charisma mixed with other attributes.

This is pretty spot on start to finish: What gets you laid at 21 is way different than what gets you laid at 25, which is way different than waht gets you laid at 35. As far as bodybuilders: I worked in a gym and every woman who ever said "he's so big that's not attractive" while in the gym, would be all over the musclehead out at a club. But that's for hooking up. for long-term relationships women tend to go for what I call the Abercrombie model: good looking, charismatic, about 6'1" and 190lbs with abs. And the older you get the more your state of mind and intellect matter. Also, nothing makes a guy more attractive than a bulge in his pocket, be it front or back, and if you have a bulge in both you could like quasimodo.

I have always said there are two things that will get you top top pussy, a big dick or a big wallet. You don't need both, you just need one and you got it made. If you do happen to have both...you are going to have the best of the best at your whim. As cynical as it may sound it is true, especially in 2012. If you don't have either there is a 99% chance that you will never have a top piece of ass on your arm for an extended period of time. Point blank.

But that said, I agree with BCR, he is on the money as always.

[Sloppy Joe]

This is pretty spot on start to finish: What gets you laid at 21 is way different than what gets you laid at 25, which is way different than waht gets you laid at 35. As far as bodybuilders: I worked in a gym and every woman who ever said "he's so big that's not attractive" while in the gym, would be all over the musclehead out at a club. But that's for hooking up. for long-term relationships women tend to go for what I call the Abercrombie model: good looking, charismatic, about 6'1" and 190lbs with abs. And the older you get the more your state of mind and intellect matter. Also, nothing makes a guy more attractive than a bulge in his pocket, be it front or back, and if you have a bulge in both you could like quasimodo.

I have always said there are two things that will get you top top pussy, a big dick or a big wallet. You don't need both, you just need one and you got it made. As cynical as it may sound it is true, especially in 2012. If you don't have either there is a 99% chance that you will never have a top piece of ass on your arm for an extended period of time. Point blank.

But that said, I agree with BCR, he is on the money as always.

I think this is only half right. Women only care about money, just having a big dick will get you nowhere.

As I've settled into my mid-20's looks are becoming more and more irrelevant. It's all about the green.

[OSA]

I have always said there are two things that will get you top top pussy, a big dick or a big wallet. You don't need both, you just need one and you got it made. As cynical as it may sound it is true, especially in 2012. If you don't have either there is a 99% chance that you will never have a top piece of ass on your arm for an extended period of time. Point blank.

But that said, I agree with BCR, he is on the money as always.

I think this is only half right. Women only care about money, just having a big dick will get you nowhere.

As I've settled into my mid-20's looks are becoming more and more irrelevant. It's all about the green.

She'll have sex with the guy with the big wallet ,but fuck the the guy big soda can.

[michael]

This is what women want.



Enjoy wasting your time at the gym lifting the bench presser or quad ripper or whatever it is they have there.

[v12cl]

"Bitches are like flies, right, they get attracted to the best shit."