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    Do you agree with the political opposition on anything?

    Right now, the US (and much of the western world) is more politically polarized than ever.

    It has gotten to the point where many people feel pressured to identify with one side or the other, and are shamed for ever agreeing with anything the other side has to say.

    This is happening on PFA to some degree, as well.

    Let's see how many of you partisan assholes are willing to concede that the other side is right on some things.

    Since I am one of those partisan assholes, I will start.

    I make no secret that I'm a conservative Republican, and always have been. However, there are some areas where I agree or mostly agree with the left or center left. These include:

    - I support gay marriage.

    - I support most environmental regulations. Without these, corporations will run rampant and destroy both nature and our planet itself.

    - Somewhat related to the above, I support the National Park system, and feel the government can do a better job preserving and managing it than private companies.

    - I support the dismantling of the privatized prison structure, and making it all 100% managed by the government.

    - I support worker's rights, and the aggressive punishment of companies violating them. The free market cannot take care of this on its own.

    - I feel that health care needs major reform, and that health care really is a right. I also feel that the costs of health care should be subsidized or provided for free for those who cannot afford it. (However, I do NOT support socialized medicine, as that is a very flawed solution to the issue, especially in this country.)

    - I support the decriminalization of drug use (but not the decriminalization of drug sales.)

    There's probably others, but that's what I came up with off the top of my head.

    Now you go.

    Post which positions held or mostly held by the opposition party you agree with.

    If you say "none", you are probably a mindless sheep who holds the exact views your party tells you to have.

     
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    There is so much to pick apart but this sentence has me scratchin

    "- I feel that health care needs major reform, and that health care really is a right. I also feel that the costs of health care should be subsidized or provided for free for those who cannot afford it. (However, I do NOT support socialized medicine, as that is a very flawed solution to the issue, especially in this country.)"

    What do you not understand about universal health care? You say you don't support socialized medicine. What is different from that to "subsidies which are provided for free."
    And no one really gets a free ride. Just like veterans returning from one of your wars who don't receive
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    Les, I don't want to get into a debate about any of the topics I posted above. That's not the point of this thread.

    Many US right wingers would disagree with me on all of the points I posted.

    This is a thread for people to be honest about what they agree with regarding the other side.

    For example, perhaps a Democrat here will post, "I agree with the death penalty" or "I don't think the top marginal tax rate should be above 37%".

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    I consider myself a centrist, but I typically vote a Republican heavy ticket.

    Left of center beliefs? Sure

    Opposition to the death penalty
    Oppose private prisons
    Pro choice with sensible restrictions (open to interpretation obv)
    Long time marijuana legalization advocate, lukewarm support of decriminalization of most drugs but extremely concerned about the devastating affects of drug and alcohol addiction.
    Support gay marriage
    Criminal justice reform
    Infrastructure investment
    Regulated capitalism (also open to interpretation)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Right now, the US (and much of the western world) is more politically polarized than ever.

    It has gotten to the point where many people feel pressured to identify with one side or the other, and are shamed for ever agreeing with anything the other side has to say.

    This is happening on PFA to some degree, as well.

    Let's see how many of you partisan assholes are willing to concede that the other side is right on some things.

    Since I am one of those partisan assholes, I will start.

    I make no secret that I'm a conservative Republican, and always have been. However, there are some areas where I agree or mostly agree with the left or center left. These include:


    - I support gay marriage.

    - I support most environmental regulations. Without these, corporations will run rampant and destroy both nature and our planet itself.

    - Somewhat related to the above, I support the National Park system, and feel the government can do a better job preserving and managing it than private companies.

    - I support the dismantling of the privatized prison structure, and making it all 100% managed by the government.

    - I support worker's rights, and the aggressive punishment of companies violating them. The free market cannot take care of this on its own.

    - I feel that health care needs major reform, and that health care really is a right. I also feel that the costs of health care should be subsidized or provided for free for those who cannot afford it. (However, I do NOT support socialized medicine, as that is a very flawed solution to the issue, especially in this country.)

    - I support the decriminalization of drug use (but not the decriminalization of drug sales.)

    There's probably others, but that's what I came up with off the top of my head.

    Now you go.

    Post which positions held or mostly held by the opposition party you agree with.

    If you say "none", you are probably a mindless sheep who holds the exact views your party tells you to have.

    What you failed to do was point out right wing foundations that are typically unpopular with the left. It's a package, so you can't say I'm in for subsidized medicine but am against a fair minimum wage for instance.
    There is literally nothing coming from the right(IMO) that exceeds what the left is already promoting

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    I hate the death penalty

    I am pro labor union for low wage unskilled workers

    Gay marriage is fine

    Most drug offenses should be a simple fine

    I think the military is bloated and wastes a ton of money

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    We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence,[note 1] promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

    Republican Party is associated with me, me vs us, us

     
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    Conservative...


    However I too dislike the death penalty. That is the confusion for me to a degree, good religious conservatives who are God fearing (so they say) who believe in redemption and forgiveness and view murder as a sin, lobby for the death penalty. It is a sticking point for me.

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    I'm a life long democrat, and the only thing I agree with the right about is that Donald Trump is the greatest president in my lifetime and is doing a fine job.

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    The very fact that a thread was created talking about “the political opposition” is the primary problem of the state of politics in this country.

    We the people over time have created the single most powerful entity in the history of the world. At the center of it instead of many different small representative groups that cater to the constituency is the biggest bioppoly in the world. The reason why it’s a bioppoly is to easily funnel money in and out of Washington. You either pay one side or the other to get your votes.

    I’m by closest definition a libertarian. I don’t call my self a republican and “agree with the political opposition” on a few things just to fit in with the state of politics.
    Last edited by Daly; 06-17-2019 at 07:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonaldTrumpsHairPiece View Post
    Conservative...


    However I too dislike the death penalty. That is the confusion for me to a degree, good religious conservatives who are God fearing (so they say) who believe in redemption and forgiveness and view murder as a sin, lobby for the death penalty. It is a sticking point for me.

    Not to mention the fact that the death penalty costs the government TONS more than putting someone away for life, which is pretty damn ridiculous imo.

    To paraphrase Ron White , there should be an express line for the most serious offenses that are also pretty cut and dry (PLENTY of evidence)....none of this waiting 20 years for appeals.
    Aside from fiscal responsibility, I do have some reservations about the death penalty especially seeing as how we have literally executed people who were later proven innocent. That right there is a fucking travesty of the highest proportions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Right now, the US (and much of the western world) is more politically polarized than ever.

    It has gotten to the point where many people feel pressured to identify with one side or the other, and are shamed for ever agreeing with anything the other side has to say.

    This is happening on PFA to some degree, as well.

    Let's see how many of you partisan assholes are willing to concede that the other side is right on some things.

    Since I am one of those partisan assholes, I will start.

    I make no secret that I'm a conservative Republican, and always have been. However, there are some areas where I agree or mostly agree with the left or center left. These include:

    - I support gay marriage.

    - I support most environmental regulations. Without these, corporations will run rampant and destroy both nature and our planet itself.

    - Somewhat related to the above, I support the National Park system, and feel the government can do a better job preserving and managing it than private companies.

    - I support the dismantling of the privatized prison structure, and making it all 100% managed by the government.

    - I support worker's rights, and the aggressive punishment of companies violating them. The free market cannot take care of this on its own.

    - I feel that health care needs major reform, and that health care really is a right. I also feel that the costs of health care should be subsidized or provided for free for those who cannot afford it. (However, I do NOT support socialized medicine, as that is a very flawed solution to the issue, especially in this country.)

    - I support the decriminalization of drug use (but not the decriminalization of drug sales.)

    There's probably others, but that's what I came up with off the top of my head.

    Now you go.

    Post which positions held or mostly held by the opposition party you agree with.

    If you say "none", you are probably a mindless sheep who holds the exact views your party tells you to have.
    The solution to all these problems is Communism. When will you trump loving sanders loving retarded capitalists figure it out?
    Socialism is the transitional period of capitalism being taken over by Communism.

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