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    Dutch Boyd now a poker dealer at the Wynn

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    A PFA Radio listener reported this to me, and took the above pic.

    They also said that Dutch did a great job.

    To his credit, he was actually an excellent dealer, very detail oriented, fast and accurate reader of hands at showdown, made eye contact with every player when they tipped and made sure to thank them in a more personable way than is normal for other dealers. When he was pushed and was on break, I saw him tidying up around the tables on his way out of the room. Was impressed with his ability and apparent work ethic.

    In a November interview with somuchpoker.com, Dutch indicated that he had "auditioned" to become a Wynn dealer before:

    SMP: About that, you did many other things in poker than just playing, writing, twitching, vlogs, etc. Did you ever consider not working in the poker industry?

    Dutch Boyd: No… but I might. I like to do other stuff in the industry. I’ve also done some coaching before, and one time I auditioned at the Wynn to deal; you know, it’s good money. When you look at some of the most successful poker players, they all went to the other side of the box, like Bobby Baldwin or Chip Reese. I feel like I don’t want my Wikipedia to be just like Dutch Boyd: 1980 to 2030, did nothing except poker.
    http://somuchpoker.com/an-introspect...on-dutch-boyd/

    In that interview answer above, Dutch projects himself dying at age 50 (he doesn't explain why).

    Dutch has a longtime girlfriend he lives with, named Michelle. Her Twitter is here: https://twitter.com/1st

    Dutch has an interesting personal history.

    He was a genius as a child, graduating high school, college, and law school at an unusually young age.

    He also founded early online poker site Pokerspot, which failed after his payment processor stole all the money. Dutch did mishandle it somewhat, not being fully up front with players after it happened, and attempting to get more deposits in order to keep it afloat.

    He suffered from a lot of mental problems (which he attributed to the failure of Pokerspot) in the 2000s, but eventually got medicated and acted a lot more normal. When I first met him, I didn't like him at all (this was during his mental problem stage), but after he got medicated I liked him a lot better.

    He's won 3 bracelets, including two in the 2010s.

    Mason Malmuth successfully sued him for cybersquatting twoplustwopoker.com, and won $60,000 against him.

    He claimed in his semi-recent book that he was one of the first guys in poker to fuck Amanda Leatherman, who messaged him out of the blue in 2006 when she had just moved to Vegas and wasn't known yet. She was living with an online poker guy at the time, and seemed to be looking to trade up. Dutch took a one-off shot by asking her to come into his back door, say nothing, and fuck him, and he was surprised when she agreed and did it.

    While some might criticize Dutch for ending up a poker dealer despite all of his poker success, I say that it's a good thing. He did the responsible thing and got a real job, unlike most degens who try to keep in action on others' dime.

     
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    I feel like he could be doing a lot better... someone with his pedigree/intellect should be bot-hunting for Stars, that sort of thing.

    But, that said, if he just wanted some structure in his life or something along those lines for wellness reasons, more power to him.
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    Nothing wrong with trying to rebuild your bankroll from the other side of the box. If you don’t have leaks in your lifestyle, it’s a sure thing, as opposed to grinding it out in low stakes games.

    I’ve always been surprised that most dealers are mediocre players. You would think all that time they spend at the tables would make them good, but that’s usually not the case. My experience has been that they are generally casual players, there to relax and blow off a little steam, and don’t take the game too seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    Dutch took a one-off shot by asking her to come into his back door, say nothing, and fuck him, and he was surprised when she agreed and did it.
    That must mean something different in America than it does in New Zealand
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    It just goes to show how hard it can be to make a consistent living at this game or how it can pass someone by. Bad money management took a big part, if not the biggest in this for sure.

    Props to him working a lot of people would never want to do that after they've been playing for so many years. It has to be tough for someone like him sitting there wishing he had cards whenever a juicy game is running that's for sure.

    I remember when he was in that little poker group I forget the name but Scott Fischman was part who once had some good tournament success but according to Dutch he fell on hard times with drugs,etc...



    I wonder what happened to Fischman I haven't heard his name in a long time perhaps he's still playing though.

     
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    My first poker screen name was in part homage to Dutch Boyd and "The Crew".
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    idk how old your kid is but i know teenagers carry more viral load than anyone

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    Tough to pay back PokerSpot players with tip money.

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    could be a career move into poker-room management; start at the bottom to learn the techniques of the business and thus be able to supervise effectively
    (long before there was a PFA i had my Grenade & Crossbones avatar at DD)

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    I've also heard that he's a great dealer, super personal, willing to discuss his life with randos.

    Sucks for him, but, really good for him. Can you imagine the amount of pride you would have to swallow for someone like Dutch to get a 1/2 - 2/5 dealing job in Vegas? Not many people are capable of that.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see him find someway to be very successful in the next decade or so.

    I think gank is still trying to occupy wall street or something.

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    At this moment in time his future looks brighter than most of his era that cratered.

    A personal credo goes like this:

    If you want to buy a flower shop - first, get a job in one.
    In this instance, you can't be a poker room manager if you haven’t been a dealer. Not in my casino anyway.

    I like his odds. Resume has breadth. This move shows true grit - something he will need if he continues in that industry

    Good luck to him.

     
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    Do I need to post another picture of Dutch Boyd drinking his own piss?

    You guys are fucking kidding yourself.

    Dutch Boyd won't last 6 months.

    Once a slacker...always a slacker.

    Someone probably a troll from this website, will go down to the Wynn poker room and fuck with Dutch, tilting the fuck out of him.

    Just wait until Daniel Negreanu shows up to embarrass him and bust his balls?

    How many days will the Wynn allow him to take off so he can play the WSOP?

    Dutch Boyd should start looking for another job now.



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    If you know anything about Dutch, you know that this is an angle to some degree. I can't quite put my finger on it but very little chance he's doing it to become a poker room ambassador in 15 years.

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    Good for him.

    Not a bad life choice.

    In fact, if he's full time, the benefits such as heath care coverage don't seem too bad.

    https://www.wynnjobs.com/page/benefits

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    In the Los Angeles area I have noticed a lot of former players, some of whom played very high, ended up as managers/floor men/dealers. Not necessarily big names, but the guys you used to see grinding it out every day in mid limit to upper limit games. Many of them don't even seem to play poker much anymore that I can tell. Whether Dutch is going this route, or if this is just a temporary fix until he gets his next score, remains to be seen I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheXFactor View Post
    Do I need to post another picture of Dutch Boyd drinking his own piss?

    You guys are fucking kidding yourself.

    Dutch Boyd won't last 6 months.

    Once a slacker...always a slacker.

    Someone probably a troll from this website, will go down to the Wynn poker room and fuck with Dutch, tilting the fuck out of him.

    Just wait until Daniel Negreanu shows up to embarrass him and bust his balls?

    How many days will the Wynn allow him to take off so he can play the WSOP?

    Dutch Boyd should start looking for another job now.



    i was like 'this is the most dated trash resume ive ever seen' until i realized it was from 2012, but even using 2012 standards its basically a collection of red flags held together by hubris and narcissism.
    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    I know a guy who went to law school with him. /endthread

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    I would never knock a man for doing an honest days work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duped_samaritan View Post

    I think gank is still trying to occupy wall street or something.
    I played live poker with Gank a long time ago, probably 15 years ago. He played at the casino I was playing at for a couple weeks straight and then disappeared and I never saw him again. Probably was a tourney going on or something.

    Anyways, he was actually really good looking and charismatic. One of those guys where the energy of the table is always centered on them. Definitely one of those guys that probably could have been a lot more successful if he didn't get sucked by the gambling bug, just on sheer looks and charisma alone.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by verminaard View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by duped_samaritan View Post

    I think gank is still trying to occupy wall street or something.
    I played live poker with Gank a long time ago, probably 15 years ago. He played at the casino I was playing at for a couple weeks straight and then disappeared and I never saw him again. Probably was a tourney going on or something.

    Anyways, he was actually really good looking and charismatic. One of those guys where the energy of the table is always centered on them. Definitely one of those guys that probably could have been a lot more successful if he didn't get sucked by the gambling bug, just on sheer looks and charisma alone.
    The problem is that he was a douchebag. Regardless of his natural skills, he thought he could walk into any job market and flash a smile and get a job. I think life taught him a lesson really quick. Shit is hard, for everyone.

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