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    i really need charlize thereon's raising her child as a girl, cause the kid said "she" was one at 3 fucking years old, to be a campaign issue.

    i will not vote for any candidate that says something like this is ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
    i really need charlize thereon's raising her child as a girl, cause the kid said "she" was one at 3 fucking years old, to be a campaign issue.

    i will not vote for any candidate that says something like this is ok
    why should the whims and parenting techniques of a south african be a campaign issue

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrTickle View Post
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    Because it rewards the irresponsible over the responsible/honest ones.

    Picture this:

    A casino has a $50k poker tournament, and allows you to enter it on credit.

    You can't afford anywhere near $50k, but you decide to take a shot anyway, and enter on credit.

    You don't cash, and owe $50k.

    After 8 years of hard work, you slowly pay off the $50k plus interest. You go without a lot of little things you'd like to have in life, in order to responsibly keep making payments. You pat yourself on the back for being responsible and getting this debt off your back.

    Three days after you're done paying it off, the casino announces, "A lot of the people who entered the tournament 8 years ago couldn't really afford it, and we shouldn't have allowed it to be entered on credit. Therefore, as many people haven't paid us back anything at all, we are just forgiving all debts involving this tournament, and nobody owes us anything."

    You then approach the casino and say, "Wow, that was very generous of you. I just finished paying it off 3 days ago. Can I have my $50k back now?"

    "Sorry, you already paid it off," they tell you. "You don't qualify. Try not being so responsible next time, buddy."

    Are you saying you'd be happy for the others getting a "leg up" by getting out of their debt, or would you feel ripped off and pissed?
    It's clear we see the world in a completely different way. Some people haven't managed to get a good enough job, they've struggled to pay back their student loan and it hangs like a guillotine over their head every month. They get a reprieve. We should all be happy for them. It's not about financial responsibility, it's about removing an unfair and debilitating financial burden. We should be happy for anyone who gets to escape from this.

    If you've managed to pay it off - congratulations. But being pissed because someone got some help when you didn't is the sign of a bitter and jealous human being. As a society we should all be happy when good things happen to others. It's not about you, it's about them.

    are you fucking kidding? you can't be this mentally retarded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrTickle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
    i really need charlize thereon's raising her child as a girl, cause the kid said "she" was one at 3 fucking years old, to be a campaign issue.

    i will not vote for any candidate that says something like this is ok
    why should the whims and parenting techniques of a south african be a campaign issue
    despite it being 2019, i want my candidates to still believe this is a form of child abuse

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Well I got my answer. The guy's name is Chuckie Denison.

    Here's his Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/chuckie.denison

    He has Bernie propaganda plastered all over it, dating back awhile.

    He also lists himself as "retired" (??), and "progressive activist".

    Interesting how the video holds him out to be a disgruntled, repeatedly laid off auto worker.

    In reality, he's retired (not exactly "fighting back" as he said in the video), and now focuses on activism for Bernie.

    Once again, Democrats are parading one of their activists/operatives as an average Joe citizen.

    Shameful.
    I LOLed at your internet detective work here. Why? Because the guy speaking in the video said that he didn’t buy Trump’s bullshit back in 2016. And if he didn’t retire, meaning likely take a buyout versus taking an optiom to move to another GM plant given his seniority and skillset, he wouldn’t be able to stay in the area and devote the time to work full-time on his political activism for that area, which he seems to have gotten started this past April with the formation and kickoff meeting of his local political organization, Our Revolution Mahoning Valley.

    https://m.facebook.com/OurRevolutionMahoningValley/

    And a local news story back in April about him and this local chapter of Sanders’ post-2016 national political organization, Our Revolution, confirms that he took early retirement in November 2018 after working for GM as a manufacturing worker for about 19 years at various GM plants.

    http://www.wfmj.com/story/40337502/l...nie-sanders-ad

    So, yeah, Druff, he *is* just “an average Joe citizen” who is now “fighting back” as an *activist* and not an “operative”, who would be somebody paid to work for a political campaign or party, such as a campaign manager or staffer. Or dirty trickster, like Roger Stone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MumblesBadly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Well I got my answer. The guy's name is Chuckie Denison.

    Here's his Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/chuckie.denison

    He has Bernie propaganda plastered all over it, dating back awhile.

    He also lists himself as "retired" (??), and "progressive activist".

    Interesting how the video holds him out to be a disgruntled, repeatedly laid off auto worker.

    In reality, he's retired (not exactly "fighting back" as he said in the video), and now focuses on activism for Bernie.

    Once again, Democrats are parading one of their activists/operatives as an average Joe citizen.

    Shameful.
    I LOLed at your internet detective work here. Why? Because the guy speaking in the video said that he didn’t buy Trump’s bullshit back in 2016. And if he didn’t retire, meaning likely take a buyout versus taking an optiom to move to another GM plant given his seniority and skillset, he wouldn’t be able to stay in the area and devote the time to work full-time on his political activism for that area, which he seems to have gotten started this past April with the formation and kickoff meeting of his local political organization, Our Revolution Mahoning Valley.

    https://m.facebook.com/OurRevolutionMahoningValley/

    And a local news story back in April about him and this local chapter of Sanders’ post-2016 national political organization, Our Revolution, confirms that he took early retirement in November 2018 after working for GM as a manufacturing worker for about 19 years at various GM plants.

    http://www.wfmj.com/story/40337502/l...nie-sanders-ad

    So, yeah, Druff, he *is* just “an average Joe citizen” who is now “fighting back”, and not a Democratic Party “operative”.

    And if you don’t understand by now, or refuse to recognize, the difference between a regular Joe who is passionately working for Bernie to become president next year and a Democratic Party operative, who almost certainly would be working to undermine Bernie’s campaign like they did in 2016, you are either willfully ignorant or partisanly disingenuous on this matter. Because I certainly believe that you are smart enough to be *able* to comprehend the difference.
    Stop trying to distract from the clear and obvious point I'm making.

    The average person watching this will not come away with the belief that this guy is now a full time Bernie activist.

    He comes off as a disgruntled auto worker who is frustrated with Trump's inability to keep his local GM plant open.

    The video purposely shows him simply standing there with his wife, rather than leading activist groups. It also doesn't mention that he's retired and now devoting all of his time to running such groups.

    That's not an accidental omission.

    You're supposed to come away with the belief that this is an everyman who is just fed up with Trump's shit. You're not supposed to come away seeing him as a fanatical political activist.

    Try to put aside your bias, watch that video again, and you'll see what I mean.

    Democrats love symboism over substance.

    Rather than present us a real auto worker in dire straits, who once believed Trump and now finds themselves betrayed by his promises, they give us a full time political activist, yet purposely attempt to portray him as otherwise.

    Give me a break.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MumblesBadly View Post

    I LOLed at your internet detective work here. Why? Because the guy speaking in the video said that he didn’t buy Trump’s bullshit back in 2016. And if he didn’t retire, meaning likely take a buyout versus taking an optiom to move to another GM plant given his seniority and skillset, he wouldn’t be able to stay in the area and devote the time to work full-time on his political activism for that area, which he seems to have gotten started this past April with the formation and kickoff meeting of his local political organization, Our Revolution Mahoning Valley.

    https://m.facebook.com/OurRevolutionMahoningValley/

    And a local news story back in April about him and this local chapter of Sanders’ post-2016 national political organization, Our Revolution, confirms that he took early retirement in November 2018 after working for GM as a manufacturing worker for about 19 years at various GM plants.

    http://www.wfmj.com/story/40337502/l...nie-sanders-ad

    So, yeah, Druff, he *is* just “an average Joe citizen” who is now “fighting back”, and not a Democratic Party “operative”.

    And if you don’t understand by now, or refuse to recognize, the difference between a regular Joe who is passionately working for Bernie to become president next year and a Democratic Party operative, who almost certainly would be working to undermine Bernie’s campaign like they did in 2016, you are either willfully ignorant or partisanly disingenuous on this matter. Because I certainly believe that you are smart enough to be *able* to comprehend the difference.
    Stop trying to distract from the clear and obvious point I'm making.

    The average person watching this will not come away with the belief that this guy is now a full time Bernie activist.

    He comes off as a disgruntled auto worker who is frustrated with Trump's inability to keep his local GM plant open.

    The video purposely shows him simply standing there with his wife, rather than leading activist groups. It also doesn't mention that he's retired and now devoting all of his time to running such groups.

    That's not an accidental omission.

    You're supposed to come away with the belief that this is an everyman who is just fed up with Trump's shit. You're not supposed to come away seeing him as a fanatical political activist.

    Try to put aside your bias, watch that video again, and you'll see what I mean.

    Democrats love symboism over substance.

    Rather than present us a real auto worker in dire straits, who once believed Trump and now finds themselves betrayed by his promises, they give us a full time political activist, yet purposely attempt to portray him as otherwise.

    Give me a break.
    It was such an intentional omission that he was interviewed by a local TV news station discussing his background and what he was hoping to do with his activism??? Seriously, Druff! You are completing reaching with your analysis here.

    But I guess that being an unabashed lifelong Republican, you expect anyone who is politically active and appearing on TV portraying supposedly as ordinary citizens are actually political operatives attempting to fool the public about the nature of their status within a particular poltical party.

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    Druff: I don't care about this old faggot or politics but I hate that you use the word "auto worker" as if it's a bad thing. I work for one of the big three and to you I'd say go fuck yourself if you came down all condescending on me like that. Your hands have and never will see calluses. You've never worked hard for anything in your life and your attitude regarding others shows it. Stop being such a prick. And yes, I can code in many more languages than you as well.

    lol computer science degree in 92 or whatever.

     
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    buttigieg is getting a push because he is the only one openly taking money from lobbyists

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MumblesBadly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    Stop trying to distract from the clear and obvious point I'm making.

    The average person watching this will not come away with the belief that this guy is now a full time Bernie activist.

    He comes off as a disgruntled auto worker who is frustrated with Trump's inability to keep his local GM plant open.

    The video purposely shows him simply standing there with his wife, rather than leading activist groups. It also doesn't mention that he's retired and now devoting all of his time to running such groups.

    That's not an accidental omission.

    You're supposed to come away with the belief that this is an everyman who is just fed up with Trump's shit. You're not supposed to come away seeing him as a fanatical political activist.

    Try to put aside your bias, watch that video again, and you'll see what I mean.

    Democrats love symboism over substance.

    Rather than present us a real auto worker in dire straits, who once believed Trump and now finds themselves betrayed by his promises, they give us a full time political activist, yet purposely attempt to portray him as otherwise.

    Give me a break.
    It was such an intentional omission that he was interviewed by a local TV news station discussing his background and what he was hoping to do with his activism??? Seriously, Druff! You are completing reaching with your analysis here.

    But I guess that being an unabashed lifelong Republican, you expect anyone who is politically active and appearing on TV portraying supposedly as ordinary citizens are actually political operatives attempting to fool the public about the nature of their status within a particular poltical party.

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    mumbles u are so dumb I don't even know if I should respond to ur obvious trash sometimes cuz I assume I must have missed something in an earlier post or something cuz u cant be that off. like what is this bolded here? does ur brain assume since u know about this interview with the news station everyone else does too?? or is it in the ad?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by GambleBotsSatire View Post
    buttigieg is getting a push because he is the only one openly taking money from lobbyists
    He’s definitely an Anyone-But-Bernie candidate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SysOp View Post
    Druff: I don't care about this old faggot or politics but I hate that you use the word "auto worker" as if it's a bad thing. I work for one of the big three and to you I'd say go fuck yourself if you came down all condescending on me like that. Your hands have and never will see calluses. You've never worked hard for anything in your life and your attitude regarding others shows it. Stop being such a prick. And yes, I can code in many more languages than you as well.

    lol computer science degree in 92 or whatever.
    WTF are you talking about?

    I am not saying anything bad about auto workers, nor have I ever. Why would I?

    I was calling out this fake displaced auto worker who in reality is retired and became a political activist, yet Bernie's video portrays him as just a regular dude who lost his job and is frustrated.

    You are also clueless regarding what I've worked for. There are other ways to work hard besides physical labor. I will admit that I haven't had a job in the past 16 years, but I was a full time worker for several years prior to that, and also worked to get an MS in computer science, which isn't a cakewalk degree by any means.

    Also counting programming languages you know is stupid, because it doesn't take very long to learn a new one.


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    Druff: I don't care about this old faggot or politics but I hate that you use the word "auto worker" as if it's a bad thing. I work for one of the big three and to you I'd say go fuck yourself if you came down all condescending on me like that. Your hands have and never will see calluses. You've never worked hard for anything in your life and your attitude regarding others shows it. Stop being such a prick. And yes, I can code in many more languages than you as well.

    lol computer science degree in 92 or whatever.
    WTF are you talking about?

    I am not saying anything bad about auto workers, nor have I ever. Why would I?

    I was calling out this fake displaced auto worker who in reality is retired and became a political activist, yet Bernie's video portrays him as just a regular dude who lost his job and is frustrated.

    You are also clueless regarding what I've worked for. There are other ways to work hard besides physical labor. I will admit that I haven't had a job in the past 16 years, but I was a full time worker for several years prior to that, and also worked to get an MS in computer science, which isn't a cakewalk degree by any means.

    Also counting programming languages you know is stupid, because it doesn't take very long to learn a new one.

    You still got it!

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    bernie also wants to give voting rights to every prisoner currently in jail.

    to give the other side such ammunition for something no one cares about suggests one of two things:

    1) either he has absolutely no idea how to connect to minorities; or 2) he has absolutely no desire to actually become president.

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    If you still support student loan forgiveness and don't understand how stupidly arbitrary the proposal is, consider this example:

    Say a politician announced, "I'm proposing that everyone born between 1973 and 1980 will get a $100,000 check from the government, unless they made $250,000 or more last year. Everyone else will get nothing. Don't worry, this will come from a wealth tax levied upon the super-rich."

    Notice that nobody born in other years would get hurt (except the super-wealthy). But only people born from 1973-1980 would get that $100k check.

    Would you support this? If you weren't born in those years, I'm guessing the answer would be NO (or at least, I'm hoping that would be your answer!)

    Why? Because it's super arbitrary and a poor use of public funds, regardless of who is taxed to get those funds.

    That's pretty much what is happening with the student loan forgiveness proposal.

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    Mayor Pete is currently being dogged by a 2012 situation where he fired a black police chief.

    Apparently there were some racists in the police department in South Bend, and the police chief started having people secretly taped in order to expose them as racist.

    Eventually Mayor Pete decided that the chief was being too aggressive and threatening in his racism investigation, and asked him to resign over it. The chief initially agreed to resign (as he was being investigated himself by state and federal authorities over the matter), but then tried to rescind it. However, it was too late, and he lost his job.

    There's been a 7-year legal battle over the matter, including an attempt to get those tapes released.

    This whole matter may come to hurt Mayor Pete in the primary, if it appears that he was trying to cover for racists in the police department.

    From what I can see, it seems that Pete was probably in the right, but it's still not a good look when you're trying to win the Democratic Primary.

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    butt ....push .... openly taking
    There’s definitely some Freudian shit going on with you. Hope you work it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
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    bernie also wants to give voting rights to every prisoner currently in jail.

    to give the other side such ammunition for something no one cares about suggests one of two things:

    1) either he has absolutely no idea how to connect to minorities; or 2) he has absolutely no desire to actually become president.
    Canada allows encarcerated felons to vote.

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