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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    I'm disappointed to see bad-faith, uncharitable arguments coming from you. That, and you address practically none of what I've written. All this does is point to the fact that you have nothing to back up your point of view.

    This isnt my first rodeo, I know when it's not worth pursuing a topic with someone.

    Sorry you're disappointed.

    Have a great day regardless.
    Well, to let you or anyone know: I'll address absolutely any criticism from any angle regarding Tulsi (or anyone), and will not back down from any debate when someone makes a point w/ which I'm uncomfortable.

    And I think people should take that into account when weighing the truth.

     
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    Ok thanks for clearing that up.

     
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    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Ok thanks for clearing that up.
    Where is this mean girl in high school mentality coming from? Why would you choose to employ it over simple, open honesty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by diggydow View Post
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    Ok thanks for clearing that up.
    Where is this mean girl in high school mentality coming from? Why would you choose to employ it over simple, open honesty?

    Because I recognize that I'm trying to argue against a pathos, and it's neither my job nor a personal interest to somehow connect the dots for you regarding where this takes us.

    I'm not interested in playing this game, my points have been made. You're free to read them in this very thread. That you feel compelled to somehow be given the opportunity to validate your perspective by having me repeat those points is yet another red flag that me doing so would be a fool's errand.
    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Oh Jesus, no way I am taking time to read through this 46 pages of retardation to find your posts.

    And I have no idea why you'd sum up my posts as mere "pathos," when I link everything and stay open + honest. I think it's labeling those who disagree w/ you as something unsavory, and thus giving yourself an excuse to ignore all evidence presented that might force you to change your mind.

     
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    Look Tulsi Gabbard has no fucking chance.

    She announced she will not seek re-election in House of Representatives so she can focus on 2020 Presidential bid. She is polling at 1.3% and will not qualify for the next two debates in November and December.

    Since she will be losing her job soon she could make plenty of money if she does porn. Then people will take her seriously.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TheXFactor View Post
    Look Tulsi Gabbard has no fucking chance.
    but she has every chance to hand trump a close election by polarizing/disenfranchising left of center democratic votes against voting for popular interests.

    aka the bernie steinders shuffle.
    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Tom Steger, the billionaire former hedge fund manager, also has no chance. After Trump, no so called "Billionaire" will ever be President again.

    Also forget Cory Booker, Beto O'Rourke and Julian Castro.

    They are finished and should just go home.


    Someone who spent over $100 million of their own money trying to become President

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheXFactor View Post
    Tom Steger, the billionaire former hedge fund manager, also has no chance. After Trump, no so called "Billionaire" will ever be President again.

    Also forget Cory Booker, Beto O'Rourke and Julian Castro.

    They are finished and should just go home.


    Someone who spent over $100 million of their own money trying to become President

    lets toss biden and yang on that pile, just to begin with.
    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Why is Andrew Yang running for President?

    Is he trying to promote some sort of business?

    Does he believe that being President makes you a superhero?



    Who is funding Joe Biden's campaign?

    Do you know anyone who actually sent this creep money?

    No, it's Super PAC money from big corporations and rich Democratic donors.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TheXFactor View Post
    Look Tulsi Gabbard has no fucking chance.
    but she has every chance to hand trump a close election by polarizing/disenfranchising left of center democratic votes against voting for popular interests.

    aka the bernie steinders shuffle.
    What does that mean? What "popular interests" is Tulsi pushing people to vote against?

    I keep hearing that Tulsi's secretly going to run 3rd party (https://twitter.com/kellyfphares/status/1188211737016836097) and then the same people claiming that she's a secret Republican. The funny thing is, if both those establishment-planted conspiracies were true, then neolibs (Hillary fans) would BE HAPPY, since Tulsi would then split the Republican vote. But we all know these conspiracies are completely false, so the incoherence is simply ignored.

    It is unbelievable that you're going to bat for Hillary Clinton, who is completely corrupt and has perpetuated so much war and waste. Do you think we OWE our vote to a Democrat simply for being labeled a Democrat? How about they have to actually espouse progressive values, and show themselves to be uncorrupted and honest? The intellectual dishonesty and entitlement is mind-boggling.

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    It's exactly why Trump won. You cannot run a campaign on "I'm not Trump." You have to fight strong for progressive values, and not cave in to corporate interests. You have to earn people's trust, and not write off anyone as deplorable. That is why Hillary lost to an abject retard, and why any DNC candidate resembling her in the slightest will never win again. Despite having brainwashed so many like yourself into voting against your own interests.

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    I understand when the establishment and Military Industrial Complex and big oil and big pharma pushes back against Tulsi, since she threatens their interests and big $$$.

    But I will never understand ordinary citizens like sonatine doing the same, exhibiting some type of Stockholm Syndrome.

    You fight, kicking and screaming and spreading lies, against the only people who are actually fighting for ordinary people like you.

    Why are Tulsi and Bernie being attacked and slandered so much?

    https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1186109742244139009

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    Because, unlike all of the other candidates, they are not fighting for the elite.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    so basically tulsi is a republican who pretends shes a democrat because republicans cant win in hawaii? is that where this is going?

    the sheer volume of wtf caliber nonsense shes spewing directly from right wing and alt-right echo chambers isnt much of an improvement over the current team retard leadership.
    This is the kind of ignorance you encouraged me to go back and check on?

    Tulsi, who fights for:
    anti-regime change war,
    weed legalization
    prostitution legalization
    Medicare for all
    Reparations
    Free college/debt forgiveness
    $15 min wage
    End fracking; 100% energy from renewables by 2035
    NRA rating: F
    Planned Parenthood rating: 100%
    Anti wall
    Universal basic income
    Supported Bernie in 2016,
    is a "Republican" because she went on Fox News to increase name recognition and reach all voters.

    I just don't understand how you could lack any critical thinking so such an extent. I know you're not stupid, so you have to be being dishonest. But I don't know why you'd do that. Yet!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post

    calling her a russian asset makes all democrats look insane
    spies are taught to target / cultivate rubes who can further an agenda.

    a rube furthering that agenda is called an asset.

    no one is saying that every 3rd full moon, a bag full of rubles is deposited under a fake rock 30 paces south of the bridge over the creek in a given park for tulsi to pick up and squirrel away.

    what is being said, by everyone in the intelligence community, is that tulsi is jill stein 2.0.
    I would be ashamed to parrot DNC propaganda without giving it a shred of critical thinking. You are every ugly white 40-year old with glasses on Twitter w/ an "I'm with her" banner and blaming everything on Trump. Incomprehensible.

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    Biden is on 60 Minutes tonight.

    The segment isn’t live cause, well, the show starts at 7pm.

    I understand 80’s women’s fashion queues like pleated pants are being revisited. The ‘80’s “elderly Reagan jokes” gonna get a second wind too

    Druff must be lovin this nostalgia bonanza

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    Latest 2020 Democratic Presidential poll...

    Warren 28%
    Biden 21%
    Sanders 15%
    Buttigieg 10%
    Harris 5%
    Klobuchar 3%
    Yang 1%
    O'Rourke 1%
    Booker 1%
    Gabbard 1%
    Steyer 1%
    Castro 1%
    Bennet 0%

    It's almost time...for Hillary Clinton to run again...


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    Clinton IS running, thru her proxies Warren and Harris.

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    The poll XFactor posted is one of several.

    They're all over the place right now.

    All taken last week, Quinnipac has Warren up 7, CNN has Biden up 15, Economist has Biden up 1, The Hill has Biden up 8, Emerson has Biden up 6 over Warren and 2 over Bernie, and Politico has Biden up 9.

    In all of the polls, Bernie is more than 10 behind the frontrunner, except for Emerson (-2) and Economist (-6).

    So the average still has Biden up by about 5 points.

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