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    This heart attack may have given Warren the primary victory. If Bernie's supporters start to jump ship, they will go to her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
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    serious question


    would hillary be a better candidate to run than warren?
    this is crazy but yes. i think she'd do better in the general election

    im inclined to agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    this is crazy but yes. i think she'd do better in the general election

    im inclined to agree.
    I don't think so. She's been smart about avoiding the socialist label, and the only people dumb enough to buy into the whole Pocahontas thing are already voting for Trump no matter what.

    Hillary has more actual skeletons than the ones Trump made up about Biden.

    Who knows though.....Oh! Druff knows! I'm sure he'll let us know the answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duped_samaritan View Post
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    im inclined to agree.
    I don't think so. She's been smart about avoiding the socialist label, and the only people dumb enough to buy into the whole Pocahontas thing are already voting for Trump no matter what.

    Hillary has more actual skeletons than the ones Trump made up about Biden.

    Who knows though.....Oh! Druff knows! I'm sure he'll let us know the answer.

    the problem is that i dont know anyone, anyone at all, whose like FUCK YEAH ELIZABETH WARREN WOOOOO and some very sharp people made a lot of money betting on that singular dynamic in 2015.

    hillary would motivate the _shit_ out of people right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by duped_samaritan View Post
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    im inclined to agree.
    I don't think so. She's been smart about avoiding the socialist label, and the only people dumb enough to buy into the whole Pocahontas thing are already voting for Trump no matter what.

    Hillary has more actual skeletons than the ones Trump made up about Biden.

    Who knows though.....Oh! Druff knows! I'm sure he'll let us know the answer.
    warren has a lot of popular positions, but the taking away private health insurance thing might be too much.

    i'm not sure how someone who campaigns on taking away your insurance and replacing it with a form of medicare wins in the general, but i'm wrong a lot.

    i assume she'll back off that if she wins the primary

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    serious question


    would hillary be a better candidate to run than warren?
    At this point in the cycle, yes. And I’m ready to bet on trump now, but wouldn’t bet it if hrc were running against him; result would be too close.

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    also seriously the hillary skeletons thing just feels like the ultimate burger of nothingess. half the people who led right wing populist rally's demanding 'lock her up' literally went to jail. hillary never fled the country, threatened to sue, anything. shes been chilling in westchester, walking her fuckin dogs, blasting trump with one liners when her evening sherry hits just right.

    so yeah, i think its a more compelling scenario than the hillary/skeletons meme would imply.

     
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    i give warren credit for scaring the absolute fucking piss out of tech america, and a lot of fly-over state types are going to find something to work with there.

    complicated bit of equity consideration honestly. and who the fuck would be her running mate btw?

    wait serious question who the fuck was hillary's running mate? i literally dont remember.


    lol tim kaine. i literally had to google.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    also seriously the hillary skeletons thing just feels like the ultimate burger of nothingess. half the people who led right wing populist rally's demanding 'lock her up' literally went to jail. hillary never fled the country, threatened to sue, anything. shes been chilling in westchester, walking her fuckin dogs, blasting trump with one liners when her evening sherry hits just right.

    so yeah, i think its a more compelling scenario than the hillary/skeletons meme would imply.

    Imagine the steamroll that barrack would do to trump right now. Legally he could prob run. Would crush him. Hell I’d prob vote for him.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    i give warren credit for scaring the absolute fucking piss out of tech america, and a lot of fly-over state types are going to find something to work with there.

    complicated bit of equity consideration honestly. and who the fuck would be her running mate btw?

    wait serious question who the fuck was hillary's running mate? i literally dont remember.


    lol tim kaine. i literally had to google.
    Lol what was that fr that fkn freak. Drudges polls are bias but the "who won the VP debate poll" was like 98-2 pence. Right after the grab em by the pussy tape too I think to shift momentum back to #THETRUMPTRAIN

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    Bernie is a superhero and he has raised the most money of all the democratic candidates.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    also seriously the hillary skeletons thing just feels like the ultimate burger of nothingess. half the people who led right wing populist rally's demanding 'lock her up' literally went to jail. hillary never fled the country, threatened to sue, anything. shes been chilling in westchester, walking her fuckin dogs, blasting trump with one liners when her evening sherry hits just right.

    so yeah, i think its a more compelling scenario than the hillary/skeletons meme would imply.
    TineMind, Not sure who you are talking with who would prefer Hillary over Warren, but they are deluding themselves in thinking that Hillary would pose a greater challenge to Trump than Warren. There are legions of Independent and moderate Republican women who would rather vote for a corpse than Hillary because of all of her baggage. Warren, on the other hand, doesn’t have that baggage, and is 100x more genuine than Hillary could ever be coached into faking. In fact, one of my close female relatives who voted for Republican prez candidates for decades except in 2012 absolutely detests Hillary and voted for Gary Johnson instead as a protest vote. She has already told me that she is planning to vote for Warren in the primary in her state even though she isn’t a registered Democrat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    also seriously the hillary skeletons thing just feels like the ultimate burger of nothingess. half the people who led right wing populist rally's demanding 'lock her up' literally went to jail. hillary never fled the country, threatened to sue, anything. shes been chilling in westchester, walking her fuckin dogs, blasting trump with one liners when her evening sherry hits just right.

    so yeah, i think its a more compelling scenario than the hillary/skeletons meme would imply.
    It's not just the emails though. Trump has a lot more to work with going all the way back to whitewater without even having to make shit up.

    There's actually a good reason all the sidedish's out there get an erection every time qanon convinces them that Hillary is running in 2020.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheXFactor View Post
    Bernie is a superhero and he has raised the most money of all the democratic candidates.


    the brother just had a heart attack. if he runs against trump he will absolutely 100% die on camera at the first debate.


    also joe biden just tried to fire shots at trump

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...608_story.html

    i mean god bless him its not like he's wrong but there is nothing being said here that hasnt been the subject of an SNL skit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by duped_samaritan View Post
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    also seriously the hillary skeletons thing just feels like the ultimate burger of nothingess. half the people who led right wing populist rally's demanding 'lock her up' literally went to jail. hillary never fled the country, threatened to sue, anything. shes been chilling in westchester, walking her fuckin dogs, blasting trump with one liners when her evening sherry hits just right.

    so yeah, i think its a more compelling scenario than the hillary/skeletons meme would imply.
    It's not just the emails though. Trump has a lot more to work with going all the way back to whitewater without even having to make shit up.

    There's actually a good reason all the sidedish's out there get an erection every time qanon convinces them that Hillary is running in 2020.

    so where was it during the last election? like, when he needed it (ostensibly)?

    like the magic of trump was a bunch of people who really had never heard of him saying 'welp, lets roll the dice on this guy, maybe he will make america great again'. it had little to do with hillary's alleged skeletons. and pretty much all those centerist swing votes got burnt.

    the other 60% of his base or whatever, the qanon enthusiasts, the gun nuts, the evangelicals, the proud boys, all the larded-and-tarded rascal scooter driving diabetic boomers in their straw hats.. they are going to vote red and vote red loudly regardless of who the right wing tosses in the spotlight.

    but those rust belt voters, they arent getting fooled twice. this shit did not work out for them. even tho hillary doesnt bring anything like warren's nascent butlerian jihad to the table, she does bring stability and the earnest promise to not say anything terribly stupid when the cameras are rolling. i feel like that would be enough right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MumblesBadly View Post
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    quick reminder that the 78 year old democratic candidate who has raised more money than every other candidate by a considerable margin had a literal heart attack and no one was even told for 3 days.

    Where’s DRK_Star when we need a decent photoshopper? Is he still banned from using the Internet?

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    Were Republicans cowardly or unethical not to go along with [convicting Trump in the second impeachment Senate trial]? No. The smart move was to reject it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duped_samaritan View Post
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    also seriously the hillary skeletons thing just feels like the ultimate burger of nothingess. half the people who led right wing populist rally's demanding 'lock her up' literally went to jail. hillary never fled the country, threatened to sue, anything. shes been chilling in westchester, walking her fuckin dogs, blasting trump with one liners when her evening sherry hits just right.

    so yeah, i think its a more compelling scenario than the hillary/skeletons meme would imply.
    It's not just the emails though. Trump has a lot more to work with going all the way back to whitewater without even having to make shit up.

    There's actually a good reason all thesidedish's out there get an erection every time qanon convinces them that Hillary is running in 2020.



    One of a kind bud

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    i mean god bless him its not like he's wrong but there is nothing being said here that hasnt been the subject of an SNL skit.
    If they replace Bernie Sanders with Larry David will anyone notice?



     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    It's not just the emails though. Trump has a lot more to work with going all the way back to whitewater without even having to make shit up.

    There's actually a good reason all the sidedish's out there get an erection every time qanon convinces them that Hillary is running in 2020.

    so where was it during the last election? like, when he needed it (ostensibly)?

    like the magic of trump was a bunch of people who really had never heard of him saying 'welp, lets roll the dice on this guy, maybe he will make america great again'. it had little to do with hillary's alleged skeletons. and pretty much all those centerist swing votes got burnt.

    the other 60% of his base or whatever, the qanon enthusiasts, the gun nuts, the evangelicals, the proud boys, all the larded-and-tarded rascal scooter driving diabetic boomers in their straw hats.. they are going to vote red and vote red loudly regardless of who the right wing tosses in the spotlight.

    but those rust belt voters, they arent getting fooled twice. this shit did not work out for them. even tho hillary doesnt bring anything like warren's nascent butlerian jihad to the table, she does bring stability and the earnest promise to not say anything terribly stupid when the cameras are rolling. i feel like that would be enough right now.
    I think he's going to go after whoever the nominee is way harder than he did Hillary.

    First of all, he's learned that he can just make stuff up and all his favorite media and members of congress will take the cue.

    Also, Trump was treating the last election like a publicity stunt. He knew he was a dog just like everyone else.

    This time, the stakes are way higher. Losing in 2020 means the country made a mistake in 2016. Also he will probably be indicted within minutes.

    Hillary just has more things to attack.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    i give warren credit for scaring the absolute fucking piss out of tech america, and a lot of fly-over state types are going to find something to work with there.

    complicated bit of equity consideration honestly. and who the fuck would be her running mate btw?

    wait serious question who the fuck was hillary's running mate? i literally dont remember.


    lol tim kaine. i literally had to google.
    Warren's gonna pick Castro for VP. And Hillary picked Tim Kaine so she would win Virginia. Mission accomplished.

     
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