Originally Posted by blake
thus insuring trump's children hold sway until long after we are dead.
did you really think this through?
at least if bernie runs, we get an electable centerist dem in 2024.
thus insuring trump's children hold sway until long after we are dead.
did you really think this through?
at least if bernie runs, we get an electable centerist dem in 2024.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
You are so flipping clueless! Sanders is THE most popular and trusted politician in the country, has the largest and most devoted following among Dem candidates in recent American political history, and has a message and agenda that resonates with the many millions of working folks and young people who have been left behind behind by both the DLC’s neoliberal economic policies and Trump’s give-the-rich-a-trillion-dollar tax break and atrocious lip service to improving access or lowering the cost of health care.
_____________________________________________
Mumbles, did not realize you lived in Cuba. Trip report please.
Mumbles, did not realize you lived in Cuba. Trip report please.
Wake up and smell the Revolution, jami-man.
_____________________________________________
something that tempers my sympathy for biden is that what happened to him in iowa was an unforced error. they hired people who had never been involved in a caucus before and apparently some of them didnt even show up. thats not the sort of quality control i expect from a potential president.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
i just don't think this is what will end up happening.
thus insuring trump's children hold sway until long after we are dead.
did you really think this through?
at least if bernie runs, we get an electable centerist dem in 2024.
the democrat party is more divided right now than i can remember. the far left of the party -- the "point of personal privilege" crowd -- does not seem to remotely resemble the centrist wing.
i don't see the socialists fading. if they remain democrats, we'll be potentially stuck with socialist presidential candidates for the near future.
even if those candidates are defeated in democratic primaries, the socialist label will stick to all democrats who, during the primary process, will have to pander to the batshit crazy wing and advocate for idiotic stuff no one believes in like voting rights for incarcerated people or open borders (both of which, bernie advocates for).
if the far left forms its own wing, i think the real democrats would become the dominant political party in the US. let the extremes be on the far left and right, while the normal people are in the middle. we *desperately* need a third party for exactly this reason.
preach on...i just don't think this is what will end up happening.
the democrat party is more divided right now than i can remember. the far left of the party -- the "point of personal privilege" crowd -- does not seem to remotely resemble the centrist wing.
i don't see the socialists fading. if they remain democrats, we'll be potentially stuck with socialist presidential candidates for the near future.
even if those candidates are defeated in democratic primaries, the socialist label will stick to all democrats who, during the primary process, will have to pander to the batshit crazy wing and advocate for idiotic stuff no one believes in like voting rights for incarcerated people or open borders (both of which, bernie advocates for).
if the far left forms its own wing, i think the real democrats would become the dominant political party in the US. let the extremes be on the far left and right, while the normal people are in the middle. we *desperately* need a third party for exactly this reason.
By euro standards Bernie is kinda there. Or at least for Northern Europe he's kinda centrist. The closest thing to meritocracy we have.preach on...
speaking of europe, bernie sanders is in total solidarity with jeremy corbyn and the british labour party, which got just wiped from existence in the last election.
I'm a member of the Labour Party. We got destroyed because of a) unpopularity of Corbyn and b) Brexit stance. Many Lab Party policies are fairly popular throughout the nation.
Comparing the Democrats (liberals) with Labour (socialists), as well as comparing US to UK politics, is a pretty tough thing to do.
the attack ads that will make moderates cringe about bernie are just endless:
illegal immigrants would qualify for federal health care, breaking up ICE, voting rights for incarcerated felons
he has never received negative ads on these issues to date. wait till he does
Speaking of euro standards, UK isn't part of that anymore. Their best case scenario is mercy of others. That the rest of Europe will treat them like insolent children, instead of the bastards they are.
but bernie concedes he isn't a democrat and is a socialist. he's pushing the democrats toward being the US's version of the british labour partyI'm a member of the Labour Party. We got destroyed because of a) unpopularity of Corbyn and b) Brexit stance. Many Lab Party policies are fairly popular throughout the nation.
Comparing the Democrats (liberals) with Labour (socialists), as well as comparing US to UK politics, is a pretty tough thing to do.
i suspect UK was only the beginning for countries dropping out of the EU but i guess we'll seeSpeaking of euro standards, UK isn't part of that anymore. Their best case scenario is mercy of others. That the rest of Europe will treat them like insolent children, instead of the bastards they are.
i suggest if you want to focus on his actual platform, you need to do so by tucking into his communications.
a lot of what ive seen you wring hands over about bernie's platform is right wing hot takes.
which is exactly how corbyn got slain, curiously.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
and all of his hot takes will be part of an endless stream of negative attack ads in swing states that, to date, he hasn't faced yet.
guess what, those negative ads work
ok cool but if you want to be factually correct you should consider my suggestion.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
It’s embarrassing watching any of these never gonna win shit morons. Dems need to completely reinvent themselves because it isn’t working.
Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.
Ronald Reagan
DNC Chairman Tom Perez has called for an immediate recanvass of the Iowa caucuses by the state Democratic Party, another blow to the reputation of the primary season's first contest - Politico
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
UK had an exceptional deal with EU. They got to cherry-pick so much shit out of it, About half the objections the Brexit side opposed were stuff UK themselves drove. Like the whole East-European immigrants taking low grade jobs. It's all based on a UK initiative. Macro wise it's positive, but that's not how it plays out in elections when none of the ones that gain jobs are allowed to vote.
There are currently 8 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 8 guests)
Reply With Quote