*** OFFICIAL 2020 Democratic Presidential Nomination Race Thread ***

[Dan Druff]

I love it when the arrogant left looks down upon everyone aside from coastal educated elites.

Buddy... what do you think you are?

Yes, I have been a huge supporter of coastal liberals and Hollywood types, and I'm constantly telling white people to check their privilege.

[SPIT this]

Buddy... what do you think you are?

Yes, I have been a huge supporter of coastal liberals and Hollywood types, and I'm constantly telling white people to check their privilege.

You're a coastal educated elite! Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[duped_samaritan]

The left is so wrapped up in identity politics and the victim olympics that they don't see the people they're driving away. They just blame "racism", "sexism", "homophobia", "ignorance", etc.

I agree the left plays the sjw card too much. But if you're more upset about the fact that people are calling out racism, sexism, and homophobia too often than actual racism, sexism and homophobia, I think that makes you pretty ignorant.

[MumblesBadly]

Anyway, when the economy is booming, you're not going to get across the message of "terrible consequences if we elect Trump" if we've already had Trump for one term and the consequences aren't terrible.

I agreed with your general argument but smiled with “booming economy”

All time highs on Wall Street, record employment, corporate earnings surprise..........

and yet you brow beat the Fed Chairman Powell into cutting interest rates back toward zero. WHY? They just swung below 0% in Germany and France.

Yeah, we’re good.

Junk bonds are 5%. Not 12% or 17%. Risk is mispriced. This is exactly like every other credit bubble. Most recently 2008. Greenspan lowers interest rates to near zero following Sept 11 and the train could not be stopped. Investors bought mispriced risky shit like mortgage backed securities.

Nobody wanted to stop the addiction and feel a little necessary pain.

The cycle repeats itself. It always gets corrected... it just hurts worse each time it happens. Trump will almost certainly dodge the crisis but he might not. No one knows when or exactly how but it’ll come.


Back to tennis

The artificial ways the federal spending and Fed Reserve overstimulation of the economy in this cycle amounts to a vast amount of implicit socialism for the rich. Because guess who will be bailed out yet again, as well as increase their share of the country’s wealth, in the wake of the next financial system crisis if the GOP or corporatist Dems remains in control of the country? (Pssst! It’s NOT the average American family.)

[duped_samaritan]

I agreed with your general argument but smiled with “booming economy”

All time highs on Wall Street, record employment, corporate earnings surprise..........

and yet you brow beat the Fed Chairman Powell into cutting interest rates back toward zero. WHY? They just swung below 0% in Germany and France.

Yeah, we’re good.

Junk bonds are 5%. Not 12% or 17%. Risk is mispriced. This is exactly like every other credit bubble. Most recently 2008. Greenspan lowers interest rates to near zero following Sept 11 and the train could not be stopped. Investors bought mispriced risky shit like mortgage backed securities.

Nobody wanted to stop the addiction and feel a little necessary pain.

The cycle repeats itself. It always gets corrected... it just hurts worse each time it happens. Trump will almost certainly dodge the crisis but he might not. No one knows when or exactly how but it’ll come.


Back to tennis

The artificial ways the federal spending and Fed Reserve overstimulation of the economy in this cycle amounts to a vast amount of implicit socialism for the rich. Because guess who will be bailed out yet again, as well as increase their share of the country’s wealth, in the wake of the next financial system crisis if the GOP or corporatist Dems remains in control of the country? (Pssst! It’s NOT the average American family.)

Is it possible he's running the country the way he ran his casinos?

[thesidedish]

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[Daly]

I agreed with your general argument but smiled with “booming economy”

All time highs on Wall Street, record employment, corporate earnings surprise..........

and yet you brow beat the Fed Chairman Powell into cutting interest rates back toward zero. WHY? They just swung below 0% in Germany and France.

Yeah, we’re good.

Junk bonds are 5%. Not 12% or 17%. Risk is mispriced. This is exactly like every other credit bubble. Most recently 2008. Greenspan lowers interest rates to near zero following Sept 11 and the train could not be stopped. Investors bought mispriced risky shit like mortgage backed securities.

Nobody wanted to stop the addiction and feel a little necessary pain.

The cycle repeats itself. It always gets corrected... it just hurts worse each time it happens. Trump will almost certainly dodge the crisis but he might not. No one knows when or exactly how but it’ll come.


Back to tennis

The artificial ways the federal spending and Fed Reserve overstimulation of the economy in this cycle amounts to a vast amount of implicit socialism for the rich. Because guess who will be bailed out yet again, as well as increase their share of the country’s wealth, in the wake of the next financial system crisis if the GOP or corporatist Dems remains in control of the country? (Pssst! It’s NOT the average American family.)

You know what is worse than a handfull of uber rich assholes and thousands of people getting by making 15-30 an hour? Having a handful of uber rich assholes and thousands of people living in a cardboard box.

[blake]

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The trans kid was a 9 year old btw

fantastic parenting

[MumblesBadly]

The artificial ways the federal spending and Fed Reserve overstimulation of the economy in this cycle amounts to a vast amount of implicit socialism for the rich. Because guess who will be bailed out yet again, as well as increase their share of the country’s wealth, in the -wake of the next financial system crisis if the GOP or corporatist Dems remains in control of the country? (Pssst! It’s NOT the average American family.)

You know what is worse than a handfull of uber rich assholes and thousands of people getting by making 15-30 an hour? Having a handful of uber rich assholes and thousands of people living in a cardboard box.

Wow! A conservative who lauds outsized Keynesian economic stimulus and excessively stimulative monetary policy in the mature phase of the business cycle! Have we entered into the political Bizarroverse?

But to your point of the second scenario: When the wealth of those uber-rich is farmed using a Sanders-style wealth tax to fund the Green New Deal, there will be a lot less people living in cardboard boxes.

[MumblesBadly]

To those of you who think Sanders would be easily beat by Trump in the general election, you might want to listen to this conservative political analyst discuss the matter.

[limitles]

When I was in Seattle I was accosted non-stop by bums and homeless people. I literally almost got stabbed by a syringe when a homeless person approached me. I don't know what is going on with your downtown, but I want nothing apart it ever again. I could have been infected.

The unfortunately result of progressivism and what all jurisdictions can look forward to when you decriminalize crime.

You blame homelessness on progressivism? And you insinuate that a country soft on crime, the U.S. lol, need step it up? Is homelessness a crime now?

[Sanlmar]

Saw this clip of Sanders on The Today Show in ‘81. He had just been elected as Mayor

It’s been said before but it’s remarkable how sincere and true to his message he has been for decades.

The video is just evidence - it’s not too remarkable


Trump broke ground as a Presidential candidate by using disparaging nicknames even in debate. Kinda shocking initially but nobody was really going to defend any of these sketchy characters. They could take the abuse. Most of them earned it.

Few favorites:
Lyin Ted
Crooked Hillary
Little Marco

Trump has not tagged Sanders yet. I think Druff observed this before. Someone posted evidence that Trump is most concerned with Sanders.

Trump needs to tread carefully if he is considering mocking Sanders. Agree or disagree with the idea of Bernie Sanders but you can’t describe him as a pandering Democrat. That is so damn unique in such a profoundly corrupt age.

This may not be a unique take but I think this is a third rail issue for me. As ridiculous as Trump is (the perfect President for these ridiculous times) nothing will snap him off clean than attacking Sander’s character.

Dare you, Donald. Cause this is THE litmus test for crazy. I don’t think he goes there. Guy knows reality show, FaceBook, Twitter ‘Murica.

Family owns a small business and yet my wife is a Bernie guy. She’s actually getting a little aggressive and frankly it’s kind of a turn on.

I don’t think it’s role playing.

[BankNoteABlaze]

Buddy... what do you think you are?

Yes, I have been a huge supporter of coastal liberals and Hollywood types, and I'm constantly telling white people to check their privilege.

LOL

It blows my mind that you still live in LA. I'm sure you are smart enough to have a business or established residence in NV, but having said that you still live in one of the worst liberal and taxed parts of the country.

[1marley1]

regardless of what happens going forward you can never, EVER take this speech away from Joe Biden:

What about these Joe speeches?

[Daly]

You know what is worse than a handfull of uber rich assholes and thousands of people getting by making 15-30 an hour? Having a handful of uber rich assholes and thousands of people living in a cardboard box.

Wow! A conservative who lauds outsized Keynesian economic stimulus and excessively stimulative monetary policy in the mature phase of the business cycle! Have we entered into the political Bizarroverse?

But to your point of the second scenario: When the wealth of those uber-rich is farmed using a Sanders-style wealth tax to fund the Green New Deal, there will be a lot less people living in cardboard boxes.

No someone who lives in reality.

[mulva]

the dems are fighters for the very rights they just made fun of.

u do realize how much mileage trump is is going to get out of that vid. don't u?

[limitles]

Buddy... what do you think you are?

Yes, I have been a huge supporter of coastal liberals and Hollywood types, and I'm constantly telling white people to check their privilege.

You've been a huge supporter of coastal liberals?. Really? How so?
Everything you've leaked out since Trump was elected points to the opposite.

Also there is nothing to differentiate a “coastal” liberal from any other except their soap box is bigger.

And privilege. So your cool with the under privileged. And the privileged listen to your message.

[Dan Druff]

Yes, I have been a huge supporter of coastal liberals and Hollywood types, and I'm constantly telling white people to check their privilege.

You've been a huge supporter of coastal liberals?. Really? How so?
Everything you've leaked out since Trump was elected points to the opposite.

Also there is nothing to differentiate a “coastal” liberal from any other except their soap box is bigger.

And privilege. So your cool with the under privileged. And the privileged listen to your message.

Learn saracsm, les.

I was making the point to SPIT This that even though I live on the coast and am educated (and Jewish, for that matter), my politics and general worldview do not align at all with the coastal and Hollywood elite.

[limitles]

You've been a huge supporter of coastal liberals?. Really? How so?
Everything you've leaked out since Trump was elected points to the opposite.

Also there is nothing to differentiate a “coastal” liberal from any other except their soap box is bigger.

And privilege. So your cool with the under privileged. And the privileged listen to your message.

Learn saracsm, les.

I was making the point to SPIT This that even though I live on the coast and am educated (and Jewish, for that matter), my politics and general worldview do not align at all with the coastal and Hollywood elite.

Buddy, my middle name is sarcasm. But you are not the sarcasm poster boy. That is text for ya.
Good for you, you were having fun.

Shout out to Brittney Sheboon I'm banned.
He literally thinks he's banned
But he's in a safe place
Also he shouts out to Viagra woman and I second it

[tony bagadonuts]

Yes, I have been a huge supporter of coastal liberals and Hollywood types, and I'm constantly telling white people to check their privilege.

You've been a huge supporter of coastal liberals?. Really? How so?
Everything you've leaked out since Trump was elected points to the opposite.

Also there is nothing to differentiate a “coastal” liberal from any other except their soap box is bigger.

And privilege. So your cool with the under privileged. And the privileged listen to your message.