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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Warren's campaign is absolutely dead. She's just staying at this point either out of stubbornness or spite (or both?)

    I admit that Biden isn't looking great overall, but he remains much more competitive than people were giving him credit for, especially in states where he was thought to be a big frontrunner. Where he's struggling is in states where he was never particularly strong.
    I’m a bit conflicted about Warren. As a Bernie supporter, I can see how there’s almost nobody who has him as their second choice, so the more people who stay in the better. Bernie might just be the one with the most hardcore first choice vote. Once people start dropping out, others may overtake him.

    On the other hand you’d expect Warren supporters to be quite left wing, so perhaps they’d go to Bernie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Warren's campaign is absolutely dead. She's just staying at this point either out of stubbornness or spite (or both?)

    I admit that Biden isn't looking great overall, but he remains much more competitive than people were giving him credit for, especially in states where he was thought to be a big frontrunner. Where he's struggling is in states where he was never particularly strong.
    My guess is she stays around until Super Tuesday. If she can capture even 10% of the vote she can barter them for a seat at the table (Treasury secretary Warren.... PUKE). It’s not a exposure thing and she probably doesn’t have to be worried about re-election in Mass.

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    Bloomberg leading all democrats in Florida now

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    this guy is flatout buying a nomination like an absolute god

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    Just realized Trump has to sit through a dozen Bloomberg commercials every time he watches Fox and Friends. That's why he's so mad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPIT this View Post
    Just realized Trump has to sit through a dozen Bloomberg commercials every time he watches Fox and Friends. That's why he's so mad.

    related note: bloomberg is the leading dem in florida.
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    Man, Bloomberg has a lot of quotes out there that might hurt him beyond his stop and frisk stuff. I saw a twitter feed yesterday with a bunch of comments of his. In an age of Trump, many will let it go, but the more sensitive segment of the Dems, idk. He can probably still win the nom, but I don’t know if I see any unity coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    Just realized Trump has to sit through a dozen Bloomberg commercials every time he watches Fox and Friends. That's why he's so mad.

    related note: bloomberg is the leading dem in florida.
    You're saying retired Jewy former New Yorkers like him?

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    dems in the house...

    how is the party going to reconcile the fact that some billionaire has a good shot of basically throwing around his billions and buying the nomination? literally the same as trump without the verbal diarrhea...this can't really rile up the pronoun part of the party to get out and vote for him, can it?
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    I want to see Bloomberg on the debate stage. If he sounds moderate and reasonable this Republican just might vote for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarefish View Post
    I want to see Bloomberg on the debate stage. If he sounds moderate and reasonable this Republican just might vote for him.

    this is exactly what i think will happen across the whole country.


    for all intents, bloomberg _is_ a republican. he's just a pre-evangalist cult republican, so he registers as democrat in the collective psyche.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarefish View Post
    I want to see Bloomberg on the debate stage. If he sounds moderate and reasonable this Republican just might vote for him.
    He's going to try and ruin healthcare with the awful "public option" (poor man's version of socialized medicine), and is obsessed with increasing the death tax like most guilty billionaires.

    He's not a Bernie, but if you think he's gonna keep the status quo because he recognizes aggressive policing works, think again. He's not a Republican by any means.

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    Poll finally released in NV

    Sanders up by 7 points, 25-18 over Biden.

    The rest clustered from 10-13.

    https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/p...finds-1957583/

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Poll finally released in NV

    Sanders up by 7 points, 25-18 over Biden.

    The rest clustered from 10-13.

    https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/p...finds-1957583/
    Your bet needs Joe to make it through the debate and the run up without saying anything stupid. It would help if Pete or Steyer had a very bad night and bled out a little Joes way. You need Joe to ever perform to his polls. It’s still a name recognition poll looking at it. I’m going to have to see Joe actually win something ever to believe it. Bernie looks hard capped right now. Not because he’s running against 10 people. I’m just not seeing 50k rallies like last time around. He just isn’t up against Hillary so he seems better positioned, but I don’t think he’s nearly as popular as last go around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Poll finally released in NV

    Sanders up by 7 points, 25-18 over Biden.

    The rest clustered from 10-13.

    https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/p...finds-1957583/
    Nevada is notoriously hard to poll. Caucuses in general are hard to poll because turnout is much lower compared to a primary, it's hard to predict 'likely voters'. Iowa is also difficult, but Nevada even more so because turnout is even lower but the unions organize and make sure they're able to get off from work to go vote together (plus peer pressure since it's not a hidden ballot).

    Also, pollsters have to predict 2nd round voting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Poll finally released in NV

    Sanders up by 7 points, 25-18 over Biden.

    The rest clustered from 10-13.

    https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/p...finds-1957583/
    Your bet needs Joe to make it through the debate and the run up without saying anything stupid. It would help if Pete or Steyer had a very bad night and bled out a little Joes way. You need Joe to ever perform to his polls. It’s still a name recognition poll looking at it. I’m going to have to see Joe actually win something ever to believe it. Bernie looks hard capped right now. Not because he’s running against 10 people. I’m just not seeing 50k rallies like last time around. He just isn’t up against Hillary so he seems better positioned, but I don’t think he’s nearly as popular as last go around.
    A lot of the people who voted for Bernie in 2016 weren't really big fans of Bernie. They just hated Hillary so they voted for Bernie as a protest vote.

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    No one's in first, who's on second.
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    I knew Nevada was a caucus, but I forgot it when druff posted that poll. Does it have the same 15% viability threshold? If so, anything crazy can happen. That’s a much better bet in a caucus where joe will benefit from others not having viability. I doubt a favorite or anything, but probably a decent bet. That caucus scenario definitely didn’t help Bernie last time and he’s rarely someone’s second choice other than a few stragglers.

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