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    tine thinking Bloomberg is a mortal lock to beat Trump heads up may be the worst take i’ve seen on the internet, PERIOD.

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      TheXFactor: Great statistic but Druff will bet on Biden no matter what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    tine, truthfully both of us are prob voting Trump in the general so this is all academic. But as a matter of principle, I fucking REFUSE to allow the establishment dems and media fuck over BERNARD a second time over. I just donated some straight cash to his campaign tonight. I need to see cnn and msnbc talking heads explode ASAP.
    listen i love berndawg but he's his own worst enemy sometimes. this should have been much easier for him. but he's really not reading the room like he should.
    don't think that's the strong suit of the over 75 demo...

    think theyre more along the lines of 'fuck it, i'm old, experienced and gonna do shit my way...don't have time to compromise with anybody...'

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    Very possible going into Super Tuesday we have Sanders, Pete, Klobuchar, Biden, Bloomberg, and Warren all still in and picking up their share of delegates. On March 4th, 38% of delegates will have already been awarded. This is a much higher share than previous years when fewer states voted on Super Tuesday, and states like California and Texas were near the bottom. Also, Dems award delegates proportionally, unlike the GOP where it's winner take all for every state. In this scenario I don't see how anybody gets to a majority of delegates. And under this fractured scenario it actually gives candidates even less incentive to drop out, since even if they can't get to a majority, picking up additional delegates will let them wield more power at the convention.

    In fact, if the GOP awarded delegates proportionally like the Dems do, Trump would not have gotten to a majority in 2016.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krypt View Post
    tine thinking Bloomberg is a mortal lock to beat Trump heads up may be the worst take i’ve seen on the internet, PERIOD.

    hes going to line the front row of every debate with billionaires and regardless of whatever the hosts ask him, one at a time he's going to each billionaire in turn and ask if they would ever buy a used car from trump.

    roll credits.
    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    and again i cant stress this enough 👏everyone👏loves👏bloomberg👏compared👏to👏these👏burger s
    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    tine, truthfully both of us are prob voting Trump in the general so this is all academic. But as a matter of principle, I fucking REFUSE to allow the establishment dems and media fuck over BERNARD a second time over. I just donated some straight cash to his campaign tonight. I need to see cnn and msnbc talking heads explode ASAP.
    listen i love berndawg but he's his own worst enemy sometimes. this should have been much easier for him. but he's really not reading the room like he should.
    The whole appeal he has to many people is that he doesn't read the room.

    He sticks to what he thinks is right, no matter how crazy or unpopular it is. He lucked into the fact that there's a socialist left trend among many in the Democratic Party nowadays (especially young people), so here he improbably is, at age 78 (79 at election time), somehow the frontfrunner.

    But what's good about Bernie is also what's bad about Bernie. He lacks the ability to adjust, and is way too much of an idealogue.

    He's going to stubbornly stick to his talking points, and will live or die with them. Even the right agrees he's authentic. But being authentic in your support for crazy ideas isn't a good thing.

    He's going to get clobbered by Trump once swing voter America fully realizes the radical nature of his plans.

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    Also, Mayor Pete's lack of authenticity is going to catch up with him soon.

    People are increasingly waking up to this, and once his narrative changes from "nice, intelligent folksy gay guy who wants to end politics as usual" to "slick, shifty politician who won't answer any tough question directly", the shine is going to wear off, much like it did for Warren.

    Warren had bigger problems, because she also had a consistent trail of lies (new and old) following her around, but I think Pete's going to fade soon enough when it's generally acknowledged that he's a phony.

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    bernie down to $71 now. thats the lowest ive seen him in a long, long time. i really dont get this.
    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPIT this View Post
    I guess what I'm trying to say is, CONTESTED CONVENTION!
    Can confirm Spit's been saying this for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    bernie down to $71 now. thats the lowest ive seen him in a long, long time. i really dont get this.
    People were expecting him to thwomp everyone in NH, and instead he squeaked by.

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    Take it with a grain of salt, but Nate updated his model. "No majority" now up to 33%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    bernie down to $71 now. thats the lowest ive seen him in a long, long time. i really dont get this.
    BCR was first in with the culinary union issues in Nevada

    Mkt seems to have concerns. The timing coincides. Dive into the Flyers handed out

    Druff is precisely right about Bernie not giving a fuck about the room. He’s preaching. Very appealing atm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
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    bernie down to $71 now. thats the lowest ive seen him in a long, long time. i really dont get this.
    BCR was first in with the culinary union issues in Nevada

    Mkt seems to have concerns. The timing coincides
    Can you give cliffs on why the culinary union has concerns about M4A?

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    again, this will all be academic when Bernard curb stomps everyone in Nevada and takes SC thereafter.

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    Since we're obviously living in a game show simulation and not a real world, we'll probably see something like this from the game-show writers this season:
    Pete wins Iowa, Bernie wins NH, Klobuchar wins Nevada for shits and giggles, Biden wins SC, and then Bloomberg wins a handful of states on super tuesday. And then come convention time....

     
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    the democrats are just so bad that "other" is surging. klobuchar and Bloomberg are scoring massive "everybody is terrible so I guess I will take them" votes or polling responses. and get this, guess who is leading at predictit for VP: Nina Turner. no clue who that is

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPIT this View Post
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    BCR was first in with the culinary union issues in Nevada

    Mkt seems to have concerns. The timing coincides
    Can you give cliffs on why the culinary union has concerns about M4A?
    http://www.msnbc.com/11th-hour/watch...na-78597189556

    The guy’s name is Jon Ralston. The reporter he references I missed her name.

    I haven’t dug. It’ll be there is the morning

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesidedish View Post
    and get this, guess who is leading at predictit for VP: Nina Turner. no clue who that is
    Wow, what the fuck. I think that's Tina Turner's granddaughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thesidedish View Post
    the democrats are just so bad that "other" is surging. klobuchar and Bloomberg are scoring massive "everybody is terrible so I guess I will take them" votes or polling responses. and get this, guess who is leading at predictit for VP: Nina Turner. no clue who that is
    It's not "other" it's "no one".

    Meaning nobody will win more than 50% of the delegates, meaning they'll have to go to second or third ballots and super delegates will come into play.

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