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    hey how do you think Bernie will do in Florida and their giant Cuban population?

    i hear they really like socialists

    so this is happening






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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post




    did this fuckin guy say hes going to tax stock market 'speculation' to pay for medicaid for all and cancelling student debt?


    ok i found a 2016 npr article on the subject:

    "Under the Sanders proposal, trades would be taxed at a rate of 0.5 percent for stocks and 0.1 percent for bonds. A stock trade of $1,000 would thus incur a cost of $5."

    this is going to get greasy.
    A tax on financial market transactions isn't a bad idea but 0.5% is way too high.

    More like 0.05% on stock and bonds and 0.1-0.2% on options and other derivatives, with an exemption for trades made from tax-free retirement accounts.

    This tax hits people who trade, which is a demographic that skews way wealthy compared to the general population. But the large majority of it hits large institutional traders and high speed algorithm traders rather than individuals.

    Given the size of our financial markets this would be a relatively painless way to generate tens of billions per year.

     
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      MumblesBadly: I’m for a tax on stock trades, but think 0.5% is still too high. But also don’t think there should be any exemptions for retirement accounts.

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    I'm all for literacy programs and I don't think we need an embargo on Cuba but it's undeniable they're an authoritarian regime and to go out of your way to praise them is just retarded.

    In fact they're so undemocratic I'm surprised Trump hasn't buddied up to them.

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    oh and for the record bron with the fadeaway to kill the celtics tonight

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    I live in the bluest of the blue parts of Florida. Sanders has no shot here.

    Maybe his act plays better in other key swing states in the rust belt the DNC can kiss Florida goodbye. If his act isn’t playing in palm beach or broward he’s drawing dead. I have several “anyone but trump” women in the extended family and none of them like Sanders. Best they have said is.... “well he’s not my first choice”.

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    tine where are we on the selena gomez meet up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post




    did this fuckin guy say hes going to tax stock market 'speculation' to pay for medicaid for all and cancelling student debt?


    ok i found a 2016 npr article on the subject:

    "Under the Sanders proposal, trades would be taxed at a rate of 0.5 percent for stocks and 0.1 percent for bonds. A stock trade of $1,000 would thus incur a cost of $5."

    this is going to get greasy.
    A tax on financial market transactions isn't a bad idea but 0.5% is way too high.

    More like 0.05% on stock and bonds and 0.1-0.2% on options and other derivatives, with an exemption for trades made from tax-free retirement accounts.

    This tax hits people who trade, which is a demographic that skews way wealthy compared to the general population. But the large majority of it hits large institutional traders and high speed algorithm traders rather than individuals.

    Given the size of our financial markets this would be a relatively painless way to generate tens of billions per year.

    they just need to have some sort of income/profit brackets for this is the bottom line. even at .2% for options id be easily paying $200+ a day in rake assuming they tax both the open and the close. factor in losing days and suddenly i need to start considering citizenship elsewhere. and im fucking around with fractions of fractions of what even modestly committed day traders have in the pot every day.

    silver lining lol hes not getting elected so fuck it. every single time he goes on tv his predictit odds wilt. no one wants to hear this shit.
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    well this shit is happening right this instant

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    did this fuckin guy say hes going to tax stock market 'speculation' to pay for medicaid for all and cancelling student debt?


    ok i found a 2016 npr article on the subject:

    "Under the Sanders proposal, trades would be taxed at a rate of 0.5 percent for stocks and 0.1 percent for bonds. A stock trade of $1,000 would thus incur a cost of $5."

    this is going to get greasy.
    So he just wiped New York off the face of the earth. Cool.

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    We gotta hope that some of these candidates develop political skills quickly,” said James Carville, a Democratic strategist and one of the noisiest anti-Sanders voices in the party. "The risk in losing the election is deep and profound. We just gotta pray.”

    Dan Pfeiffer, a former adviser to former President Barack Obama, said if no candidates drop out before Super Tuesday and the moderates continue to split the delegate, Sanders likely has a lock on the nomination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post




    did this fuckin guy say hes going to tax stock market 'speculation' to pay for medicaid for all and cancelling student debt?


    ok i found a 2016 npr article on the subject:

    "Under the Sanders proposal, trades would be taxed at a rate of 0.5 percent for stocks and 0.1 percent for bonds. A stock trade of $1,000 would thus incur a cost of $5."

    this is going to get greasy.
    A tax on financial market transactions isn't a bad idea but 0.5% is way too high.

    More like 0.05% on stock and bonds and 0.1-0.2% on options and other derivatives, with an exemption for trades made from tax-free retirement accounts.

    This tax hits people who trade, which is a demographic that skews way wealthy compared to the general population. But the large majority of it hits large institutional traders and high speed algorithm traders rather than individuals.

    Given the size of our financial markets this would be a relatively painless way to generate tens of billions per year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post


    did this fuckin guy say hes going to tax stock market 'speculation' to pay for medicaid for all and cancelling student debt?


    ok i found a 2016 npr article on the subject:

    "Under the Sanders proposal, trades would be taxed at a rate of 0.5 percent for stocks and 0.1 percent for bonds. A stock trade of $1,000 would thus incur a cost of $5."

    this is going to get greasy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    A tax on financial market transactions isn't a bad idea but 0.5% is way too high.

    More like 0.05% on stock and bonds and 0.1-0.2% on options and other derivatives, with an exemption for trades made from tax-free retirement accounts.

    This tax hits people who trade, which is a demographic that skews way wealthy compared to the general population. But the large majority of it hits large institutional traders and high speed algorithm traders rather than individuals.

    Given the size of our financial markets this would be a relatively painless way to generate tens of billions per year.
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post

    A tax on financial market transactions isn't a bad idea but 0.5% is way too high.

    More like 0.05% on stock and bonds and 0.1-0.2% on options and other derivatives, with an exemption for trades made from tax-free retirement accounts.

    This tax hits people who trade, which is a demographic that skews way wealthy compared to the general population. But the large majority of it hits large institutional traders and high speed algorithm traders rather than individuals.

    Given the size of our financial markets this would be a relatively painless way to generate tens of billions per year.

    they just need to have some sort of income/profit brackets for this is the bottom line. even at .2% for options id be easily paying $200+ a day in rake assuming they tax both the open and the close. factor in losing days and suddenly i need to start considering citizenship elsewhere. and im fucking around with fractions of fractions of what even modestly committed day traders have in the pot every day.

    silver lining lol hes not getting elected so fuck it. every single time he goes on tv his predictit odds wilt. no one wants to hear this shit.


    This isn't a bad idea IF and ONLY IF the money were used to either salvage SSRI/Medicare or reduce the National Debt -- LOL, I know. But in all seriousness, why wouldn't this be a vast improvement over the draconian income taxes we pay?

    TMI I realize, but technically we are supposed to report gambling earnings above the line and deductions only come under it; hence an artificially increased AGI which then kicks you out of almost all other available deductions and credits, etc. Soooooooo, why should stock trading be any different?

     
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      MumblesBadly: Agreed that how gambling losses are handled per Fed income tax is asinine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    A tax on financial market transactions isn't a bad idea but 0.5% is way too high.

    More like 0.05% on stock and bonds and 0.1-0.2% on options and other derivatives, with an exemption for trades made from tax-free retirement accounts.

    This tax hits people who trade, which is a demographic that skews way wealthy compared to the general population. But the large majority of it hits large institutional traders and high speed algorithm traders rather than individuals.

    Given the size of our financial markets this would be a relatively painless way to generate tens of billions per year.
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post

    A tax on financial market transactions isn't a bad idea but 0.5% is way too high.

    More like 0.05% on stock and bonds and 0.1-0.2% on options and other derivatives, with an exemption for trades made from tax-free retirement accounts.

    This tax hits people who trade, which is a demographic that skews way wealthy compared to the general population. But the large majority of it hits large institutional traders and high speed algorithm traders rather than individuals.

    Given the size of our financial markets this would be a relatively painless way to generate tens of billions per year.

    they just need to have some sort of income/profit brackets for this is the bottom line. even at .2% for options id be easily paying $200+ a day in rake assuming they tax both the open and the close. factor in losing days and suddenly i need to start considering citizenship elsewhere. and im fucking around with fractions of fractions of what even modestly committed day traders have in the pot every day.

    silver lining lol hes not getting elected so fuck it. every single time he goes on tv his predictit odds wilt. no one wants to hear this shit.


    This isn't a bad idea IF and ONLY IF the money were used to either salvage SSRI/Medicare or reduce the National Debt -- LOL, I know. But in all seriousness, why wouldn't this be a vast improvement over the draconian income taxes we pay?

    TMI I realize, but technically we are supposed to report gambling earnings above the line and deductions only come under it; hence an artificially increased AGI which then kicks you out of almost all other available deductions and credits, etc. Soooooooo, why should stock trading be any different?

    you know whats funny?

    i slept on this and woke up a lot more in line with your position than i was on mine last night.

     
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    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Krystal Ball just keeps amazing me with her god-level talent at delivering highly entertaining and cogent commentary about the main stream media elite’s emotional struggles this election season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Hang on, I want to bet this, too.

    XFactor probably not betting, though. Nobody knows who he is, not even me. I doubt he will give up that anonymity.
    Not only is he a lock to not bet it; he’s a lock to not even respond or acknowledge it. But that’s okay he’ll make up for it by posting some trash boomer Facebook memes.

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    Let's gooooo. cc: Druff
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    Well... here we go. More good news for Biden.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SPIT this View Post
    Let's gooooo. cc: Druff
    If this is accurate

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    Well... here we go. More good news for Biden.

    Then this is idiotic.


    Bloomberg might be washed mentally. If he doesn’t realize he wants Bernie to win SC, he isn’t thinking correctly. He wants the black vote to split. Biden takes this and he’ll grab every diverse state in south. Doesn’t really leave Bloomberg a lane. Unless Bloomberg really doesn’t want to win, just Bernie to lose, in which case this makes sense.

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    a cardiologist dished to nbc about bernies cardiovascular situation post heart attack and its fucking bad.

    he shouldnt be in this race, period. and its going to come up at the next debate and he will likely be forced out because of it.

     
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