Because it rewards the irresponsible over the responsible/honest ones.
Picture this:
A casino has a $50k poker tournament, and allows you to enter it on credit.
You can't afford anywhere near $50k, but you decide to take a shot anyway, and enter on credit.
You don't cash, and owe $50k.
After 8 years of hard work, you slowly pay off the $50k plus interest. You go without a lot of little things you'd like to have in life, in order to responsibly keep making payments. You pat yourself on the back for being responsible and getting this debt off your back.
Three days after you're done paying it off, the casino announces, "A lot of the people who entered the tournament 8 years ago couldn't really afford it, and we shouldn't have allowed it to be entered on credit. Therefore, as many people haven't paid us back anything at all, we are just forgiving all debts involving this tournament, and nobody owes us anything."
You then approach the casino and say, "Wow, that was very generous of you. I just finished paying it off 3 days ago. Can I have my $50k back now?"
"Sorry, you already paid it off," they tell you. "You don't qualify. Try not being so responsible next time, buddy."
Are you saying you'd be happy for the others getting a "leg up" by getting out of their debt, or would you feel ripped off and pissed?
Is the guy in this video a converted Trump supporter who is angry about the GM plant?
Or was he an active BernieBro dating back to 2015?
I'm guessing he was always Team Bernie.
That makes the video less powerful and less interesting, if true.
The guy seems way too pro-Bernie to just be a disgruntled Ohioan.
Well I got my answer. The guy's name is Chuckie Denison.
Here's his Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/chuckie.denison
He has Bernie propaganda plastered all over it, dating back awhile.
He also lists himself as "retired" (??), and "progressive activist".
Interesting how the video holds him out to be a disgruntled, repeatedly laid off auto worker.
In reality, he's retired (not exactly "fighting back" as he said in the video), and now focuses on activism for Bernie.
Once again, Democrats are parading one of their activists/operatives as an average Joe citizen.
Shameful.
It doesn’t matter if the guy featured in that ad has been a long-time Bernie supporter. I-80 runs along the huge empty parking lot of that Lordstown plant, and will serve as a daily reminder of the many folks who see it that Trump is a fraud and con man who lied about how he was going to save/bring back their jobs.
It's clear we see the world in a completely different way. Some people haven't managed to get a good enough job, they've struggled to pay back their student loan and it hangs like a guillotine over their head every month. They get a reprieve. We should all be happy for them. It's not about financial responsibility, it's about removing an unfair and debilitating financial burden. We should be happy for anyone who gets to escape from this.
If you've managed to pay it off - congratulations. But being pissed because someone got some help when you didn't is the sign of a bitter and jealous human being. As a society we should all be happy when good things happen to others. It's not about you, it's about them.
that's what I was getting at in my earlier post...if you get some sorta science/engineering degree, student loans are probably a pain in your ass if you took them out but they aren't financially crippling because you are making good money in those fields...when I was coming out of school ages ago a starting chem E would make like $70...nowadays a starting I banker makes like $90-100...and on and on if you pick a major that has earning potential...if you're making those kinda bucks in your early 20s you'll be fine paying off your student loans...
if you get a degree in poetry and youre now making $30K a year schlubbing shit at starbucks then that's your fault for being a fucking moron and paying a shitton of money for a degree that is worthless...
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I'm not saying it's an ineffective ad.
That's what the Democrats need to be doing -- appealing to the working class swing voter -- and less of the embrace of socialism and full-term abortion.
However, I'm stating that the ad is misleading, and that this tactic has become increasingly common from the Democratic Party. They parade what appears to be everymen in front of the camera stating their concerns, when in reality those people are established activists/operatives within the party. I find it to be very dishonest. It's interesting that Bernie is now doing this, given that he was recently a VICTIM of such tactics by the DNC at a town hall earlier this year. I guess if you can't beat the shadiness, join the shadiness, right?
What the Democrats need to do is find/identify people in working class areas who voted for Trump in 2016 (preferably ones who were visible supporters of his at the time), who have since come to resent him for breaking promises to them.
THAT would be powerful, provided the stories are actually true and can't be debunked by a little research.
I'm sure some people like that can be found.
Will they do this?
Who knows? There's a lot of time until the general election, but the Democrats have fucked up strategically pretty badly in the past few years, so it wouldn't surprise me if they completely flub the 2020 election as badly as 2016.
I've talked to some swing voters lately. These are people who hate Trump, some of whom voted for Hillary.
They have slowly moved more left, in an enemy-of-the-enemy-is-our-friend sort of way, regarding Trump.
Some of them were all ready to support the Democratic candidate in 2020, until some of the recent extremism has come out.
These people simply can't relate to the concepts of reparations, full-term abortion, UBI, transgender 6-year-olds, or embracing of the socialist label.
When they see this rhetoric come from the Democrats, they start to reevaluate their recent leftward turn, and think to themselves, "I detest Trump, and I'm not happy with the Republicans in general, but WTF is this shit on the other side?"
I've heard this from several swing voters in 2019. They were all ready to vote Trump (and by extension, other Republicans) out of office in 2020, but now they're not so sure.
This is so painfully obvious to me, yet I feel like Democrats are not getting this point. They still seem to think that the key to victory is being really progressive and exciting the base to show up to the polls. That will backfire.
I am not even sure all the democrats are trying to win. I am sure a lot of them are. But I think there is a sort of nihilism, where they are so dedicated to the victim narrative, they secretly want to lose, so they can cry “victim” even louder and wail about persecution the next 4 years.
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