Casino tipping question

[Dan Druff]

This situation did NOT involve me, so don't try to read that into it.

Say you're a lifetime losing pit games player. You are not an advantage player or anything else like that. Just a recreational player who likes to gamble.

You are playing one of those pit games with a jackpot possibility. You get lucky and hit one for $82k.

What do you tip the dealer?

Think for a second before you answer. Don't just state a large amount because you want to look generous. Be honest regarding what you would really give for that hand, especially given that you're way down lifetime gambling in the pits, even after the $82k hit.

[ErickAA]

This situation did NOT involve me, so don't try to read that into it.

Say you're a lifetime losing pit games player. You are not an advantage player or anything else like that. Just a recreational player who likes to gamble.

You are playing one of those pit games with a jackpot possibility. You get lucky and hit one for $82k.

What do you tip the dealer?

Think for a second before you answer. Don't just state a large amount because you want to look generous. Be honest regarding what you would really give for that hand, especially given that you're way down lifetime gambling in the pits, even after the $82k hit.

I dunno how the pit game ecosystem works, but if it was a poker jackpot I would probably give $500 to the dealer and $500 to the floor men (to be pooled). This is probably the amount I would tip of any jackpot I won that was above $30k.

[lol wow]

Between 3 and 5 black chips

[lol wow]

And then I'd be like bro how cheap is todge woatelles

[Dan Druff]

This situation did NOT involve me, so don't try to read that into it.

Say you're a lifetime losing pit games player. You are not an advantage player or anything else like that. Just a recreational player who likes to gamble.

You are playing one of those pit games with a jackpot possibility. You get lucky and hit one for $82k.

What do you tip the dealer?

Think for a second before you answer. Don't just state a large amount because you want to look generous. Be honest regarding what you would really give for that hand, especially given that you're way down lifetime gambling in the pits, even after the $82k hit.

I dunno how the pit game ecosystem works, but if it was a poker jackpot I would probably give $500 to the dealer and $500 to the floor men (to be pooled). This is probably the amount I would tip of any jackpot I won that was above $30k.

Let's keep poker out of this, because a fair number of poker players are winners overall (far more, percentage-wise, than pit game players).

I'm talking about a routine losing casino gambler hitting that $82k. How much should he give?

[ErickAA]

I dunno how the pit game ecosystem works, but if it was a poker jackpot I would probably give $500 to the dealer and $500 to the floor men (to be pooled). This is probably the amount I would tip of any jackpot I won that was above $30k.

Let's keep poker out of this, because a fair number of poker players are winners overall (far more, percentage-wise, than pit game players).

I'm talking about a routine losing casino gambler hitting that $82k. How much should he give?

As someone who has been around a lot of live poker jackpots in the last 20 years, I would guesstimate that winning players tip far less when they win jackpots, oftentimes $0. Recreational losing poker players definitely tip more than winning players in poker. I would expect a similar trend in craps on aggregate, but there is obviously high individual variance.

Edit: Then again, craps has no winning players, so I guess winning vs losing players isn't really an issue, so I am not sure why that matters. But we move on.

[BCR]

I’d tip $2k. Then lose the $80k. Then take out a $2k cash advance on my cc. Then lose that. Then ask the dealer to borrow $100 to get home and they’d say no.

[BeerAndPoker]

A routine loser giving a few hundred bucks seems alright on a jackpot. He should give something but what happens is most don't know his situation of losing all the time and dealers want their cut too because it's not every day they deal out some jackpot so he's likely to get some dirty looks if he gets too stingy on the tip.

Most of the time people aren't going to know his wins/losses status about the guy. The dealers might see him lose here and there or not even recognize him if he's been swapping around casinos over his time.

He has to pay taxes on that too is something they aren't taking into account so there goes a nice percentage of it.

How the staff treated me my entire visit and past ones might play a little into giving them slightly more but a $500 to 1k range is fair enough. This isn't a 3% sort of thing here but lets say I get incredibly lucky to smash the same casino two times in a short period of time then the second time around I would probably consider being a little more generous, even though technically both times the same process happened

[MumblesBadly]

My understanding is that pit dealers usually pool tips because players in those games usually don’t tip each hand as with ring game poker, but at the end of their session of play if they end up leaving a winner. That’s what dealers in AC told us. And this lead to a problem with the quality of dealing and game management by the dealers at a particular Caesars property (Ballys) where the poker dealers there also dealt pit games, so both the tips collected from poker and the pit games were pooled, then distributed based on hours on duty. Some of the dealers there didn’t give a shit about fast the players wanted the game to move along, as their share of tips didn’t depend on it.

So, with that info in mind, would that jackpot tip be paid only to the dealer or into the pool for all dealers?

[Dan Druff]

In this casino, dealers don't share tips.

[ErickAA]

I’d tip $2k. Then lose the $80k. Then take out a $2k cash advance on my cc. Then lose that. Then ask the dealer to borrow $100 to get home and they’d say no.

At one of the local LA Casinos I heard through the grapevine a player recently won a jackpot, tipped a few hundred to the dealer, donked the jackpot off, and asked the dealer for the tip back. I can't personally verify any of these details, but I do know the player in question, who doesn't seem to have particularly high personal integrity or impulse control (I know, shocking traits in a degenerate gambler), so it is certainly believable.

[big dick]

500

[BeerAndPoker]

What I'd be curious to hear is what the pit dealers out there think is a "realistic" fair tip. They can give a range of low but acceptably fair end to fair range with everything else falling in the above fair/generous group.

So what does a dealer expect on this?

2k?

3k?

5k?

Even more then that?

[Dan Druff]

I’d tip $2k. Then lose the $80k. Then take out a $2k cash advance on my cc. Then lose that. Then ask the dealer to borrow $100 to get home and they’d say no.

At one of the local LA Casinos I heard through the grapevine a player recently won a jackpot, tipped a few hundred to the dealer, donked the jackpot off, and asked the dealer for the tip back. I can't personally verify any of these details, but I do know the player in question, who doesn't seem to have particularly high personal integrity or impulse control (I know, shocking traits in a degenerate gambler), so it is certainly believable.

Not to hijack here, but those pit games at LA Casinos really do attract big time degens.

In January a big fish at the 60-120 limit holdem game left to go play some pit game there. We made sure the seat was held, and sure enough, the guy came back after like an hour having turned $300 into $3500. Obviously we were all happy to see that.

[GrenadaRoger]

https://blog.casinolasvegas.com/stri...ing-etiquette/


cliffs - for a slot, maximum tip is 1% of jackpot
table games - $5/hr winning or losing

[Drawingdead]

I beileve 1% max is more then acceptable for a large jackpot like that Druff. My reasoning is,

1. The dealer put up zero dollars to win. The gambler takes all the risk while the dealer is already being paid an hourly wage to do his job.

2. The dealer did nothing to influence the cards, unlike what most people think. Pit games, poker and really anything gambling are not shared experiences. Think about a blackjack/craps table where the table goes nuts when everyone wins. The dealers openly root for the players hoping to get tips and make the experience fun for the players. All that’s a show to extract tips from players and the since of community is a joke. When my wife and I play 2$ or 5$ craps a bet the dark side sometimes and people get so mad at me. I’m like bitch my gambling decision doesn’t affect your bet or the out come of the game.

3. Finally, taxes will take about 40% so an 82k win will be 47$ ish. (Not exact). So if said person tips 5k they’re giving up a significant portion of their post tax win. Even if it’s deducted from the overall tax burden that still ends up being 5-10% of post tax win.

[MumblesBadly]

https://blog.casinolasvegas.com/stri...ing-etiquette/


cliffs - for a slot, maximum tip is 1% of jackpot
table games - $5/hr winning or losing

I laughed when I read this in that blog entry. At the 1/2 NL game, sure, but not usually at 2/5. And definitely not at higher stakes NL games or the limit games.

Poker: A common method of tipping is to pass the dealer a small blind every time you win a hand. If you want to be more equitable, you can simply tip out a big blind at the end of the dealer’s session.

[rum dick]

I'd probably give the dealer around 5k because what the fuck enjoy the moment and spread the wealth. I normally give 10% when I hit a big jackpot but 8.2k seems a bit much.

[ftpjesus]

This situation did NOT involve me, so don't try to read that into it.

Say you're a lifetime losing pit games player. You are not an advantage player or anything else like that. Just a recreational player who likes to gamble.

You are playing one of those pit games with a jackpot possibility. You get lucky and hit one for $82k.

What do you tip the dealer?

Think for a second before you answer. Don't just state a large amount because you want to look generous. Be honest regarding what you would really give for that hand, especially given that you're way down lifetime gambling in the pits, even after the $82k hit.

I dunno how the pit game ecosystem works, but if it was a poker jackpot I would probably give $500 to the dealer and $500 to the floor men (to be pooled). This is probably the amount I would tip of any jackpot I won that was above $30k.

I was gonna say $1000 probably would be a fair drop as a thanks for the good luck.. Uncle Sams gonna get a bigger chunk of it anyway so if you figure out whats left probably around 50-55k depending that's a nice way to say thanks for the good mojo..

[ftpjesus]

I’d tip $2k. Then lose the $80k. Then take out a $2k cash advance on my cc. Then lose that. Then ask the dealer to borrow $100 to get home and they’d say no.

Yep probably would be my luck. Although I generally have a rule that if I manage to break even or slightly ahead then its time to walk away.. A small profit is better then a shitty downswing.. Wife and I last trip to Vegas won enough on a brief slots play to cover all our meals and entertainment for the whole trip on the first day we were there.. (we did have some other gambling money set aside which we did use also mainly because I wanted to see how much of -ev the slots at Monte Carlo were with there massive rakeback they were running offering $20 in freeplay for every $100 coin in.. Yeah dunno what their payback was but Im guessing it was south of 85%).