60 days till freedom .....
60 days till freedom .....
cmoney :It would be nice if Mexico could simply get human feces out of its drinking water
It's very difficult to explain Brexit to non-Brits as there's a huge amount of back-story surrounding both sides. As the deadline (currently Oct 31) approaches both sides are engaging in increasingly desperate moves and counter-moves. Having lost the referendum, Remain has employed four basic strategies in increasing order of traction:
- Since the referendum some old people have died and some young people have turned 18 therefore the result would be different now
- Leave told lies and the media was manipulated by Russians/CIA/MI5/billionaires/oligarchs/etc
- We need a people's vote #PeoplesVote to ratify the decision
- Leave said we'd negotiate a deal with the EU and we haven't therefore this wasn't what people voted for and is not democratic
None of these arguments is particularly cogent or decisive but for a long time (3) seemed the front-runner. After a pointed lack of interest from the Labour Party, however, it has now died away and been replaced by (4). Through clever manipulation by Remain, or just random luck, many people now believe it is imperative that we negotiate a deal with the EU before we can leave. As a Leave voter my attitude has always been to just leave, and we'll work out the details later, but I have to concede that the attempt to split Leave into "Leave but only if we have a deal"/"Just fucking leave" has had some success.
Boris Johnson clearly understands one thing, and one thing only at this point: If Britain leaves the EU on 31 Oct he can win a general election with a huge majority, but, if we don't, the rage of Leave voters will annihilate him. He's already made some masterly metagame moves and Leave seems to be floundering but they certainly have a couple of plays left. The nuclear option, which I expect them to deploy when Parliament resumes, is to force a 'Vote of No Confidence' in the government. Losing that would be the end for most Prime Ministers but ironically in this case it may be exactly what Boris wants. He dissolves Parliament and calls a General Election while remaining PM over the Brexit period and refusing to ask for an extension.
The glimmer of hope for Leave is that after a successful 'Vote of No Confidence' there is a 14 day period when an alternative government can attempt to show they have a Parliamentary majority. Even if every non-Conservative banded together into an alliance they would still be a long way short of this but there are a fair number of disgruntled Conservative MPs who are threatening that they might even side with this alliance. Doing so would be taking a huge personal risk because if they end up on the losing side Boris will not allow them to stand as Conservative candidates in the next election and most would lose their seats.
So, interesting times, I'm still hoping for a spooky Halloween Brexit. I always knew we'd have to fight our way out of the EU tooth and nail, I just didn't expect it to be through so many bodies of our own side. Because both traditional and social media are dominated by Remain voters the overwhelming message most foreign countries will be getting is that leaving the EU is a bad idea. Don't believe it! Most British voters still want to leave and want to see the democratic result of the referendum implemented.
Johnson loses majority live on TV.
fun fact, someone did some analysis of retweets of boris' "The referendum result must be respected. We will leave the EU on 31st October. #LeaveOct31" tweet.
tl;dr: a staggering number of the accounts contributing to that tweet cloud have #MAGA in their profile.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
One hopes that we’re another step closer to remaining
pretty fucking incredible comment from boris johnson's sister, who openly posited that a tremendous amount of pressure to hard brexit is coming from people shorting the pound.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
It’s a matter of public record that hard brexiteers have been profiteering. Google Crispin Odey for instance.
While Remain is clearly the best option for the country, an amicable Brexit deal wouldn’t be a terrible outcome, in the circumstances, as we’ve probably scuppered our chances of ever being ab,e to be a functioning EU member.
What would be a terrible outcome is a hard brexit. Those who seek it fall into one of three categories, fucking mongs, evil cunts, or fucking evil mong cunts. Not sure about their headwear.
Being reported Brexit is a done deal.
But think a vote is still needed.
Considering Johnson leads a minority government, hasn't passed a single bill so far, and the DUP will want no part of his new "deal," I'd say there's little chance of this deal passing.
All that has happened is that now Boris can say he tried, blame everyone else, and press on with a no-deal leaving, as appears to have been his plan all along.
Last edited by Crowe Diddly; 10-17-2019 at 09:03 AM.
Brexit: European leaders agree extension to 31 January
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50205603
U.K. to Destroy Commemorative 50p Coins in Brexit Meltdown
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...rexit-meltdown
Thousands of 50-pence coins minted to commemorate Brexit on Oct. 31 will be melted down after Prime Minister Boris Johnson accepted an extension from the European Union, two people familiar with the matter said.
U.K. Chancellor of the Exchequer Sajid Javid had announced plans for millions of coins engraved with the date Johnson pledged to leave the bloc, but production was paused last week when it became clear there would be a delay.
The coins were already being minted so they could be put into circulation as soon as the U.K. left the EU.
On Monday, Johnson accepted the EU’s offer of a three-month extension to Jan. 31, and the decision was taken for all the coins to be melted down, according to the people, who asked not to be identified. One of them said hundreds of thousands of the coins had been minted already.
A spokesman for the Treasury said the U.K. will still produce a coin to mark its departure from the EU -- whenever that takes place.
The dream is dead: Johnson election triumph breaks UK 'remainer' hearts
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-b...-idUSKBN1YH0B4
lol
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