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Thread: 5 months in has PFA met your expectations? (admin and users)

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    5 months in has PFA met your expectations? (admin and users)

    i personally expected a reasonable amount of traffic (more than skatz but less than dd 1.0) but to in effect completely take all the activity from DD and make that place a ghosttown did surprise me a little. i know it's micon running the show over there but still... will dd 2.0 last long term? probably not which is sad to see but to be honest i think we all saw it coming. all good things must come to an end and that end my friends is pfa 1.0!


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    Def exceeded. Druff runs a tight ship. People respect that. Add in the poker option, generous members

    (freerolls) and entertaining radio and it's pretty much the nuts.

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    to be fair micon ghost towned himself with his retarded update

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    Quote Originally Posted by limitles View Post
    Def exceeded. Druff runs a tight ship. People respect that. Add in the poker option, generous members

    (freerolls) and entertaining radio and it's pretty much the nuts.
    Well thank you, limitles.

    I will say that you have actually been a surprisingly good poster over the last month or so.

    I actually only moderate this forum very lightly. I delete very few posts, and mainly just move junk over to The Bathroom Wall. The posts that get deleted are never done because of censorship reasons, but is typically just removal of porn/shock pics, personal info, serious thread hijacking, etc.

    I have also banned very few people here.

    I am trying to strike a balance between free speech and prevention of the forum from turning into unreadable crap.

    I do appreciate that most users here (even some who used to give me a hard time at DD) have understood my vision with this forum, and have acted respectfully.

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    Speaking of which, post restricting 408mike sounds like an appetizing scenario...

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    Yes, PFA has met/exceeded all my expectations.

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    needs more yEBSITE, but other than that, yes

    todd is GOD

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    Meeting and exceeding expectations, imo
    TRUMP 2024!

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    Just non-stop unrelenting LGBT propaganda being shoved down our throats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by limitles View Post
    Def exceeded. Druff runs a tight ship. People respect that. Add in the poker option, generous members

    (freerolls) and entertaining radio and it's pretty much the nuts.
    Well thank you, limitles.

    I will say that you have actually been a surprisingly good poster over the last month or so.

    I actually only moderate this forum very lightly. I delete very few posts, and mainly just move junk over to The Bathroom Wall. The posts that get deleted are never done because of censorship reasons, but is typically just removal of porn/shock pics, personal info, serious thread hijacking, etc.

    I have also banned very few people here.

    I am trying to strike a balance between free speech and prevention of the forum from turning into unreadable crap.

    I do appreciate that most users here (even some who used to give me a hard time at DD) have understood my vision with this forum, and have acted respectfully.
    thankful for your light moderation.

    exceeded expectation allround, though the color scheme still feels like a 1995 linux fan boy decided to decorate the place. it doesn't grow on me.

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    PFA has met my expectations. I had zero expectations.

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    PFA has not met my expectations. I honestly thought Todd would be way more controlling and involved than he really is. Allowing Mike to run loose like he has has been the worst fail so far. Also not coming down harder on some people (myself included) has been a surprise. Ex: Weiss is a well known scammer yet he runs free here. TheTemplar hasnt been noted as a scammer on his profile, nor has any of the scammed money that Todd is apparently collecting been returned to anyone (except backdoor to Tony). I could go on and on

    (*ducks to miss the flying vegetables the trolls are about to fling*)

    Oh yeah, and all of the constant radio fail has been hard to suffer through. Lets anounce the terms of the freeroll for 45 minutes straightlike an autistic retard, but continue to forget that when moving his laptop and unplugging the hardwire that the wifi will skip for a few seconds. FFS everytime we act like no one could see that coming. New sound card anyone?
    It's hilarious that we as a society think everyone can be a dr, a lawyer, an engineer. Some people are just fucking stupid. Why can't we just accept that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsearles22 View Post
    PFA has not met my expectations. I honestly thought Todd would be way more controlling and involved than he really is. Allowing Mike to run loose like he has has been the worst fail so far. Also not coming down harder on some people (myself included) has been a surprise. Ex: Weiss is a well known scammer yet he runs free here. TheTemplar hasnt been noted as a scammer on his profile, nor has any of the scammed money that Todd is apparently collecting been returned to anyone (except backdoor to Tony). I could go on and on

    (*ducks to miss the flying vegetables the trolls are about to fling*)

    Oh yeah, and all of the constant radio fail has been hard to suffer through. Lets anounce the terms of the freeroll for 45 minutes straightlike an autistic retard, but continue to forget that when moving his laptop and unplugging the hardwire that the wifi will skip for a few seconds. FFS everytime we act like no one could see that coming. New sound card anyone?


    I am fine with constructive criticism. The radio technical fail is deserving of scorn, and I am the first to admit that.

    However, are you really trying to accuse me of stealing the compensation money for Templar victims?

    And you wonder why everyone treats you like a worthless troll.

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    Ban that fat scamming bastard.

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    My perspective is that the forum has met expectations - from a user perspective. The traffic that the forum has collected, I think, is where the surprise has come in and is explained by a number of things:
    1) druff contributing to the forum as a poster and starting threads
    2) the forum being fairly solid technically and having a familiar feel and functionality
    3) the users being somewhat sympathetic and wanting to help druff due to what most see was a bad separation between micon and partners. I actually believe the drexel separation sealed it more than the druff separation.
    4) the upgrade / password fiasco over at dd - it really can only be called a fiasco - I'm not a frequent poster, but I can't be bothered to jump through even the slightest hoop or hurdle just to hear myself speak

    3) and 4) are really the keys, and built on 1) and 2)

    In general, the forum is a one person initiative and druff has done it well. Forum - 8 out of 10.

    Radio

    My perspective is that radio has come in below expectation - for a number of reasons.
    1) the dd chemistry / schtick / fail from micon / disinterest from drexel / steadiness of druff / OSA calls etc - just isn't there
    2) the quality of guests is lower than expected - drexel seems to be less using his rolodex
    3) start times have been good - predictable
    4) tech fails happened
    5) there seems to be little content that I am not getting on my twitter feed
    6) the drexel participation is still a little unclear

    Maybe the chemistry / personality / unique hook of radio will come eventually, I don't think it has come yet. I think a show with druff as main host is and always will be far different than a show with micon as the main host and won't be able to duplicate. The forum is about the users. Radio is about the hosts.

    In general, I find I am not as interested in radio as I was with dd. I do miss micon - as part of the 3 person show. It is the way that druff and drexel make up for the mistakes and weaknesses of micon that make for compelling radio - the love hate relationship. FLR is even more interesting to me right now due to the east coast / vegas combo flavour. Radio - 5 out of 10.

    I apologize if my frankness offends anyone. I am very appreciative in general of the forum and radio. The fact there might be room for improvement on radio and to a lesser extent the forum is just that - room for improvement.

    The last comment might be that there is less fraud type content, gossip, etc than I might have expected. I don't think this disappoints me, but it would be interesting to have more content in this area.

    Oh and finally - I learned what a juggalo is - so at least I have that going for me now ...

    Overall: 7 out of 10
    Last edited by Mad Dad; 07-27-2012 at 12:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jsearles22 View Post
    PFA has not met my expectations. I honestly thought Todd would be way more controlling and involved than he really is. Allowing Mike to run loose like he has has been the worst fail so far. Also not coming down harder on some people (myself included) has been a surprise. Ex: Weiss is a well known scammer yet he runs free here. TheTemplar hasnt been noted as a scammer on his profile, nor has any of the scammed money that Todd is apparently collecting been returned to anyone (except backdoor to Tony). I could go on and on

    (*ducks to miss the flying vegetables the trolls are about to fling*)

    Oh yeah, and all of the constant radio fail has been hard to suffer through. Lets anounce the terms of the freeroll for 45 minutes straightlike an autistic retard, but continue to forget that when moving his laptop and unplugging the hardwire that the wifi will skip for a few seconds. FFS everytime we act like no one could see that coming. New sound card anyone?


    I am fine with constructive criticism. The radio technical fail is deserving of scorn, and I am the first to admit that.

    However, are you really trying to accuse me of stealing the compensation money for Templar victims?

    And you wonder why everyone treats you like a worthless troll.
    I am not at all accusing you of stealing the money. I am accusing you of being VERY slow in handling that situation. If you click on TheTemplar's profile currently it says that he is a contributor. If you click on mine it says scammer. Who took actual real money from people? Furthermore, you have $427 in your possession and you seem to be in no hurry whatsoever to return that. I have asked you directly your intentions multiple times yet it falls on deaf ears.

    You calling me a worthless troll is out of line for the site owner, IMO. You let Mike run around here like he has yet you want to come at me like that? You let Weiss run around here under cover of darkness for months knowing who he is but not outing him. And this is pokerfraudalert? GTFO
    It's hilarious that we as a society think everyone can be a dr, a lawyer, an engineer. Some people are just fucking stupid. Why can't we just accept that?

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    I think that this place is pretty sweet

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    Mad Dad, I am fine with all of your opinions. You stated them in a respectful and detailed manner, which is all I can ask.

    The show without Micon is indeed different, and people seem to have very mixed opinions as to whether that's better or worse. Some enjoyed the bickering between me and Micon, and felt it added to the chemistry and "natural" feel of the show. Some liked Micon's personality, and miss that over here. Others hated Micon and felt he was the biggest weakness of the show, both in how he ran it (the constant obsession with ending things early) and his general demeanor on the show.

    I have heard comments from people like you (who preferred the Micon/Druff/Drexel combo) and other comments from people who love the current configuration. One person I know, who is only a casual reader of the forums but listens to every radio show, told me that they found the PFA version to be a huge improvement, and loved the chemistry between the three hosts.

    Different things appeal to different people, I guess.

    I do agree that we should have more guests than we do. Part of this has occurred intentionally. We don't want to have guests that will produce boring radio. For example, we don't see a need to interview the latest Razz bracelet winner. What are we going to say to him? "So.... how did it feel to win a bracelet?" That's not what we do here.

    Big name guests are always interesting just because of who they are. We'll try to get more of those. Many are surprisingly willing to come on.

    Guests who are "characters" are also interesting. Al Sugar Bear Barbieri is a good example of this.

    I have also made an effort to get people on the show who were making news at the moment (such as Adzizzy), and many have agreed in theory, but then couldn't make it. I didn't follow up with any of them because they fell out of the news and were no longer interesting enough to warrant an interview, in my opinion.

    Regarding the forum (and the radio for that matter), I do feel we need more scams/scandals/gossip, and I am going to try to improve upon that.

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    Expectations have been met.

    The gratuitous imagery of past forums never really bothered me but it's nice to not have to worry about black cocks or worse while reading at work.

    I think most situations are appropriately handled and site has good direction. Keep up the good work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe View Post
    The gratuitous imagery of past forums never really bothered me but it's nice to not have to worry about black cocks or worse while reading at work.


     

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    These are all just kind of nit-picks, so don't take them as major issues I have

    My initial expectations of the site when I joined have not been met, as I think the site went in a different direction soon after Brandon left DD and everything else that occurred from there on --which is not really a bad thing in terms of the site, and I'm clearly not disappointed with it. My guess is Druff wasn't expecting quite this many DD castaways and when they appeared it just naturally led to a more DD-esque forum.

    The forums are entertaining and there is the occasional interesting/controversial poker-related thread, but for the most part this is DonkDown 2.0 (regardless of what Micon is selling at the other site). Most of the user base migrated from there, intially about 50% but the rest came after the Brandon breakup, and the remainder filtered in after the 2.0 disaster.

    I hope the lead forum, SSS, does get more action in the future, as this is what I first signed-up for: to talk, debate, and gather insight from other people regarding the seedier underbelly of poker.

    As far as the radio goes, it's also entertaining, but there is too much crossover from the forum when it comes to what is discussed on radio. A lot of the stuff has been covered ad nauseum in the forum and then rehashed almost word for word on the radio. And I definitely agree that the guest list has been on the light side, hopefully it's because of the WSOP and will get ironed-out. On a final note, it seems like the radio show is based on negativity. What I mean is the stories are almost always covered from a negative point of view and are mostly one-sided since Drexel, Vwls, and Druff all have a similar mindset on most of these matters (perhaps this is where Micon is missed most, as he always found the humor in the stories).
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