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    Crash of a 737 Max 8 in Ethopia, thoughts sought

    I was surprised by 1 drone photo of crash scene. No 1/4 of a mile long debris field. This plane nosed in and buried itself. Retrieval of parts via Cat excavator and front end loader to allow sifting of dirt. I'm guessing that the software has one little unanticipated feature that only occurs when various sensor inputs and pilot inputs cause the control system to think the best course of action is to roll over and lose elevation. I'm hoping for better informed opinions of possibilities from you. If anything like that comes to light, how the hell does Boeing announce a software update?

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/af...7-max-8-planes
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    Nothing of any value to add but coincidentally I知 reading this on a Max 8

     
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    Why is Earth’s axis shifting?
    Humanity has now burned enough fossil fuel to tip the planet slightly. Karl Kruszelnicki explains.


    https://cosmosmagazine.com/geoscienc...-axis-shifting

    It's because of climate change.

    Also remember the Earth is now long over-due (over 100,000 years) when the Earth suddenly stops spinning and then starts spinning again in the opposite direction.

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    It was better when pilots actually had to fly the planes ...

     
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    Of course, only Donald Trump could possibly know the reason why these planes are falling from the sky.


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    I wonder when the head of the FAA is going to comment?



    OH, thats right, we havent had one for 14 months because Trump is trying to place one of his campaign managers in the position and it's too much for even the Republicans to go along with.

     
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    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheXFactor View Post
    Of course, only Donald Trump could possibly know the reason why these planes are falling from the sky.






    One of the most jaw dropping tweets he's made imo.

    Edit: why am I trapped in this quote!?!?

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    Problem with the 737 Max is all tied to a software issue so Trump isn't entirely wrong.. In both cases it appears the plane's antistall programming went batshit crazy getting erroneous information from the "Angle of Attack" indicating it thinks the plane is at such a step incline that the plane thinks the plane is going to stall out and thus hijacks control of the plane and pushing it back over to level and eventually pointing at a negative angle.. It would also appear there is zero way for the pilots to over rule the system or turn it off.. In both cases it seems to tied to it happening during take off when planes are normally in a reasonably steep incline depending on the terrain.. I don't know the exact functionality of how it works so if it is also tied into GPS location and altitude it could be also creating issues as in the Ethopian case the airfield lies just over 7000ft above mean sea level.. The solution is probably allowing pilots to disable the 'safety' system during takeoffs or landings (as I would be concerned if a plane had a missed landing it would need to do a flyby requiring going back up to a certain altitude rather quickly which might also trip the systems logic circuit..

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrTickle View Post

    Nothing of any value to add but coincidentally I知 reading this on a Max 8
    Pushing back from the gate now on a max 8. Maybe you値l all finally get your wish

    It's hilarious that we as a society think everyone can be a dr, a lawyer, an engineer. Some people are just fucking stupid. Why can't we just accept that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsearles22 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrTickle View Post

    Nothing of any value to add but coincidentally I知 reading this on a Max 8
    Pushing back from the gate now on a max 8. Maybe you値l all finally get your wish

    You sure about that?? Only ask because the US announced earlier today they were ordering all 737 Max 8 and 9s grounded
    Rule #1 in EMS: One way or another the bleeding will eventually stop..
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    The Chinese making sure their embedded tech is working.

    Thanks Obama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devidee View Post
    The Chinese making sure their embedded tech is working.

    Thanks Obama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FRANKRIZZO View Post

    "n March 11, Boeing announced that the company "has been developing a flight control software enhancement for the 737 MAX, designed to make an already safe aircraft even safer." The shutdown of non-essential operations at the FAA caused work on the fix to be suspended for five weeks, according to unnamed US officials cited by the Wall Street Journal. The fix is expected to be mandated for installation by the FAA by the end of April."


    but his wall tho.

     
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    Norwegian has sent a 737 Max grounding bill to Boeing for lost revenue. Not good for Boeing.

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