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    Good article by conservative David Frum on why American elections suck

    http://us.cnn.com/2012/11/05/opinion...ml?hpt=hp_c2_7

    Having partisans run elections is insane. Having hundreds of different rules and procedures is insane. This guy gets it.

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    You have to admit, American's do have a nice looking flag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    http://us.cnn.com/2012/11/05/opinion...ml?hpt=hp_c2_7

    Having partisans run elections is insane. Having hundreds of different rules and procedures is insane. This guy gets it.
    You are that stupid Aussie, correct? Here is an idea, how about you focus on the Prime Minister election or whatever you people vote on. When I want an opinion on a Russell Crowe movie, I will seek your opinion.

    Go shut the fuck up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deal View Post
    You have to admit, American's do have a nice looking flag.
    It's lovely but would have been better with 6-pointed stars, which the original 13-stars-in-a-circle flag had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobbieBensonFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    http://us.cnn.com/2012/11/05/opinion...ml?hpt=hp_c2_7

    Having partisans run elections is insane. Having hundreds of different rules and procedures is insane. This guy gets it.
    You are that stupid Aussie, correct? Here is an idea, how about you focus on the Prime Minister election or whatever you people vote on. When I want an opinion on a Russell Crowe movie, I will seek your opinion.

    Go shut the fuck up.
    What the fuck are you talking about, I'm American and I have buddies who died face down in the mud so you could go out and vote today. Are you too drunk to remember who's who again?

    Anyway it's not my opinion, it's David Frum's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    http://us.cnn.com/2012/11/05/opinion...ml?hpt=hp_c2_7

    Having partisans run elections is insane. Having hundreds of different rules and procedures is insane. This guy gets it.
    Agreed 100%.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by tgull View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    http://us.cnn.com/2012/11/05/opinion...ml?hpt=hp_c2_7

    Having partisans run elections is insane. Having hundreds of different rules and procedures is insane. This guy gets it.
    Agreed 100%.
    I'm glad we have common ground on this one. We should have uniform federal standards making it easy to vote and easy to count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    http://us.cnn.com/2012/11/05/opinion...ml?hpt=hp_c2_7

    Having partisans run elections is insane. Having hundreds of different rules and procedures is insane. This guy gets it.
    I believe Druff would disagree with calling David Frum a “conservative”, but would probably agree with the True Scotsman label of “former-conservative-and-probably-now-pretty-liberal”.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MumblesBadly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    http://us.cnn.com/2012/11/05/opinion...ml?hpt=hp_c2_7

    Having partisans run elections is insane. Having hundreds of different rules and procedures is insane. This guy gets it.
    I believe Druff would disagree with calling David Frum a “conservative”, but would probably agree with the True Scotsman label of “former-conservative-and-probably-now-pretty-liberal”.
    Yeah that's fair, since the shift to Trump's Atilla the Hun brand of "conservatism," Frum seems a lot less conservative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    http://us.cnn.com/2012/11/05/opinion...ml?hpt=hp_c2_7

    Having partisans run elections is insane. Having hundreds of different rules and procedures is insane. This guy gets it.
    David is the son of legendary radio and TV broadcaster Barbara Frum



    She was Canada's Brinkley/Cronkite.

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    An important difference between American elections vs. Canadian, British etc.
    is in supporting the local representative

    In Canada we vote for these locals and by extension their party but ultimately
    the party picks their leader. And that leader has to win his or her own riding

    It's not that different but when Americans claim they are sticking to party lines it's not really true when they have a free vote for a leader
    Last edited by limitles; 11-08-2020 at 10:14 PM.

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