What happened to the Natioanal emergency re: the southern wall?

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Along with the caravans the truth finds a way

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Will the dullness ever stop?....

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Will the dullness ever stop?....

You know more about dull than anyone on this forum. I asked specifically about the national emergency. Has it been abandoned and if so why?

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Will the dullness ever stop?....

You know more about dull than anyone on this forum. I asked specifically about the national emergency. Has it been abandoned and if so why?

National Emergency
Was this not just declared?
How is there no mention of a national emergency declared several days ago?
How great is the leader of the free world that national emergencies can be so easily repelled?
God bless the burger king

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National emergency gaffe

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Will this work for you?? Headline is from the NY Times of all places so not some Conservative site you would discount for telling the truth.. This comes from a liberal rag

"Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month

The number of migrant families crossing the southwest border has once again broken records, with unauthorized entries nearly doubling what they were a year ago, suggesting that the Trump administration’s aggressive policies have not discouraged new migration to the United States.
More than 76,000 migrants crossed the border without authorization in February, an 11-year high and a strong sign that stepped-up prosecutions, new controls on asylum and harsher detention policies have not reversed what remains a powerful lure for thousands of families fleeing violence and poverty.
“The system is well beyond capacity, and remains at the breaking point,” Kevin K. McAleenan, commissioner of Customs and Border Protection, told reporters in announcing the new data on Tuesday.
The nation’s top border enforcement officer painted a picture of processing centers filled to capacity, border agents struggling to meet medical needs and thousands of exhausted members of migrant families crammed into a detention system that was not built to house them — all while newcomers continue to arrive, sometimes by the busload, at the rate of 2,200 a day."

If that doesn't constitute a National Emergency I don't know what to tell you.. News Media kept harping saying illegal crossings were down.. As per usual they were lying jackasses and the truth has been exposed..
They've had hundreds caught some days just in SW Arizona where oh hey theres no WALL.. People claim we don't need the wall expanded etc.. It isn't just about the illegals crossing its the tons of drugs including now Fentanyl crossing the border.. Here in AZ the border is not far South of Interstate 8 which means smugglers can sneak over dump product near the Interstate and mules can hit and run and be gone in rapid fashion.. DPS here doesn't have the time or ability.. Just yesterday by chance a Pinal County Sheriffs deputy caught a husband and wife (who was pretending to be a nun of all things) with 8lbs of Fentanyl near where I-8 and I-10 come together outside Tucson..
Yes the high tech stuff works but only if you force and funnel the traffic towards the ports of entry where they can be fully scrutinized.. Not to mention temps are going to start going up and soon itll be frying season where BP ICE and the local authorities start finding and having to rescue illegals in the desert here again if they find them in time... Even in cases like this a hardened barrier would likely force any attempts to cross back closer to areas where they can be more managed..

The solution is much easier here in AZ, NM and California (if they didn't actually want to allow people to pour across the border there in Cali).. Texas is much more complicated due to the river system near the border all along From Laredo/Neuvo Laredo to the Barrier islands near Galveston and Brownsville in TX.. Cant build a wall through the river so much but people aren't dying of dehydration at the river.. Oh and in case anybody missed it theres now a lovely outbreak of Mumps at one Detention facility in TX with 200 cases reported.. Also I can tell you straight up the number of TB patients is climbing in the SW and is DIRECTLY attributable to illegal entrants.. (Yall do realize we still had medical standards for folks arriving at Ellis Island when the US had a much more liberal immigration policy but seems folks want to ignore that as well)..

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National emergency gaffe

Oh before you got all high and mighty Les about Canada and its open arms for refugees and immigrants.... Funny how things changed for Justin when the shit hit the fan and the Quebecois started bitching about being overrun..

"According to a report released Monday, Canada – the country that claimed they would open their arms to the world's refugees – has been deporting those same refugees back to worn-torn countries in record numbers.
Faced with a growing illegal immigration crisis, Justin Trudeau's government has been taking extreme measures to ensure Canada's immigration laws are duly enforced, and that includes "removing" anyone who doesn't follow Canada's strict rules for migrating into the country.
"Between January 2014 and Sept. 6, 2017, Canada sent 249 people to 11 countries for which the government had suspended or deferred deportations because of dangers to civilians," Reuters reported, after obtaining confidential government documents outlining Canada's increased deportation plan.
That number includes 134 refugees returned to Iraq, likely fleeing ISIS, and 43 refugees returned to Afghanistan. The number of "returns" to Iraq has already doubled so far this year, as well. By this time in 2016, Canada had deported only around 20 people back to the Middle East, to a country the Canadian government deems unsafe. Already this year, the government has deported 50 Iraqi refugees.
The US, by contrast, is currently barred from deporting any Iraqi refugees, thanks to a court order issued earlier in the summer staying the deportations until an appeals process is finished.
Canadian officials claimed to Reuters that the process is "humanitarian" and that those refugees facing deportation are afforded due process rights, and that they have recourse to appeal an unfavorable decision.
But, even as its clear Canada just wants to execute their rules on immigration in a fair manner, which respects their national sovereignty and the safety of Canadian citizens, that's a far cry from how Justin Trudeau claimed they'd operate in the days after Donald Trump announced new immigration restrictions for the United States.
The liberal prime minister Tweeted in January that, "To those fleeing persecution, terror & war, Canadians will welcome you, regardless of your faith. Diversity is our strength #WelcomeToCanada."
He failed to mention their stay in Canada would be short, and that they'd be returned to their home countries if they did not follow Canada's immigration law to the letter.
But Canada is facing an unprecedented spike in illegal immigration and is struggling to keep things under control. Even Trudeau has changed his tune, warning, repeatedly, that Canada will enforce its strict immigration laws."

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Will this work for you?? Headline is from the NY Times of all places so not some Conservative site you would discount for telling the truth.. This comes from a liberal rag

"Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month

The number of migrant families crossing the southwest border has once again broken records, with unauthorized entries nearly doubling what they were a year ago, suggesting that the Trump administration’s aggressive policies have not discouraged new migration to the United States.
More than 76,000 migrants crossed the border without authorization in February, an 11-year high and a strong sign that stepped-up prosecutions, new controls on asylum and harsher detention policies have not reversed what remains a powerful lure for thousands of families fleeing violence and poverty.
“The system is well beyond capacity, and remains at the breaking point,” Kevin K. McAleenan, commissioner of Customs and Border Protection, told reporters in announcing the new data on Tuesday.
The nation’s top border enforcement officer painted a picture of processing centers filled to capacity, border agents struggling to meet medical needs and thousands of exhausted members of migrant families crammed into a detention system that was not built to house them — all while newcomers continue to arrive, sometimes by the busload, at the rate of 2,200 a day."

If that doesn't constitute a National Emergency I don't know what to tell you.. News Media kept harping saying illegal crossings were down.. As per usual they were lying jackasses and the truth has been exposed..
They've had hundreds caught some days just in SW Arizona where oh hey theres no WALL.. People claim we don't need the wall expanded etc.. It isn't just about the illegals crossing its the tons of drugs including now Fentanyl crossing the border.. Here in AZ the border is not far South of Interstate 8 which means smugglers can sneak over dump product near the Interstate and mules can hit and run and be gone in rapid fashion.. DPS here doesn't have the time or ability.. Just yesterday by chance a Pinal County Sheriffs deputy caught a husband and wife (who was pretending to be a nun of all things) with 8lbs of Fentanyl near where I-8 and I-10 come together outside Tucson..
Yes the high tech stuff works but only if you force and funnel the traffic towards the ports of entry where they can be fully scrutinized.. Not to mention temps are going to start going up and soon itll be frying season where BP ICE and the local authorities start finding and having to rescue illegals in the desert here again if they find them in time... Even in cases like this a hardened barrier would likely force any attempts to cross back closer to areas where they can be more managed..

The solution is much easier here in AZ, NM and California (if they didn't actually want to allow people to pour across the border there in Cali).. Texas is much more complicated due to the river system near the border all along From Laredo/Neuvo Laredo to the Barrier islands near Galveston and Brownsville in TX.. Cant build a wall through the river so much but people aren't dying of dehydration at the river.. Oh and in case anybody missed it theres now a lovely outbreak of Mumps at one Detention facility in TX with 200 cases reported.. Also I can tell you straight up the number of TB patients is climbing in the SW and is DIRECTLY attributable to illegal entrants.. (Yall do realize we still had medical standards for folks arriving at Ellis Island when the US had a much more liberal immigration policy but seems folks want to ignore that as well)..

Will respond to this shortly but you've done a nice editorial job here using the N.Y Times piece, a lying jackass outlet, along with some anecdotes and speculation.

[ftpjesus]

Will this work for you?? Headline is from the NY Times of all places so not some Conservative site you would discount for telling the truth.. This comes from a liberal rag

"Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month

The number of migrant families crossing the southwest border has once again broken records, with unauthorized entries nearly doubling what they were a year ago, suggesting that the Trump administration’s aggressive policies have not discouraged new migration to the United States.
More than 76,000 migrants crossed the border without authorization in February, an 11-year high and a strong sign that stepped-up prosecutions, new controls on asylum and harsher detention policies have not reversed what remains a powerful lure for thousands of families fleeing violence and poverty.
“The system is well beyond capacity, and remains at the breaking point,” Kevin K. McAleenan, commissioner of Customs and Border Protection, told reporters in announcing the new data on Tuesday.
The nation’s top border enforcement officer painted a picture of processing centers filled to capacity, border agents struggling to meet medical needs and thousands of exhausted members of migrant families crammed into a detention system that was not built to house them — all while newcomers continue to arrive, sometimes by the busload, at the rate of 2,200 a day."

If that doesn't constitute a National Emergency I don't know what to tell you.. News Media kept harping saying illegal crossings were down.. As per usual they were lying jackasses and the truth has been exposed..
They've had hundreds caught some days just in SW Arizona where oh hey theres no WALL.. People claim we don't need the wall expanded etc.. It isn't just about the illegals crossing its the tons of drugs including now Fentanyl crossing the border.. Here in AZ the border is not far South of Interstate 8 which means smugglers can sneak over dump product near the Interstate and mules can hit and run and be gone in rapid fashion.. DPS here doesn't have the time or ability.. Just yesterday by chance a Pinal County Sheriffs deputy caught a husband and wife (who was pretending to be a nun of all things) with 8lbs of Fentanyl near where I-8 and I-10 come together outside Tucson..
Yes the high tech stuff works but only if you force and funnel the traffic towards the ports of entry where they can be fully scrutinized.. Not to mention temps are going to start going up and soon itll be frying season where BP ICE and the local authorities start finding and having to rescue illegals in the desert here again if they find them in time... Even in cases like this a hardened barrier would likely force any attempts to cross back closer to areas where they can be more managed..

The solution is much easier here in AZ, NM and California (if they didn't actually want to allow people to pour across the border there in Cali).. Texas is much more complicated due to the river system near the border all along From Laredo/Neuvo Laredo to the Barrier islands near Galveston and Brownsville in TX.. Cant build a wall through the river so much but people aren't dying of dehydration at the river.. Oh and in case anybody missed it theres now a lovely outbreak of Mumps at one Detention facility in TX with 200 cases reported.. Also I can tell you straight up the number of TB patients is climbing in the SW and is DIRECTLY attributable to illegal entrants.. (Yall do realize we still had medical standards for folks arriving at Ellis Island when the US had a much more liberal immigration policy but seems folks want to ignore that as well)..

Will respond to this shortly but you've done a nice editorial job here using the N.Y Times piece, a lying jackass outlet, along with some anecdotes and speculation.

Did you seriously just say the NY Time is lying?? WAIT A MINUTE.. OK HOLD A SEC.. Despite the fact the NYT is a well known liberal leaning rag..

How about the Christian Science Monitor (not nearly as Christian as they claim) https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2019/0...n-large-groups

What about good old MSN??? Ya know the parent of MSNBC?? https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/th...nth/ar-BBUq4Ru

Nice Try Les.. You cant argue the facts when its coming from known LEFT leaning media outlets constantly attacked by Trump.. When the media who supposedly hates Trump and Trump attacks hands him evidence on a silver platter of the legitimacy of the National Emergency...

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Will respond to this shortly but you've done a nice editorial job here using the N.Y Times piece, a lying jackass outlet, along with some anecdotes and speculation.

Did you seriously just say the NY Time is lying?? WAIT A MINUTE.. OK HOLD A SEC.. Despite the fact the NYT is a well known liberal leaning rag..


Nice Try Les.. You cant argue the facts when its coming from known LEFT leaning media outlets constantly attacked by Trump.. When the media who supposedly hates Trump and Trump attacks hands him evidence on a silver platter of the legitimacy of the National Emergency...

I said no such thing. I was pointing out that you, the person calling time honoured media outlets like the N.Y. Times, suddenly find it appropriate to use an article by them to incorrectly make your point. Don't make this too easy. I just got back so hold on.

Jesus H man you don't even recognize your own words?

The spike in crossings consists mainly of Central American refugee "families" and is overloading the detention facilities.

"The main problem is not one of uncontrolled masses scaling the fences, but a humanitarian challenge created as thousands of migrant families surge into remote areas where the administration has so far failed to devote sufficient resources to care for them, as is required under the law."

These asylum seekers are a big problem no question but they are not what Trump has made them out to be.

"Data from U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) show that apprehensions at the southern border have declined more than 75 percent since 2000. The individuals still arriving at the border are largely asylum seekers fleeing violence in Central America—most of whom are children and families. So while President Trump is correct that there is a humanitarian situation at the border, it is not a security crisis. As such, the situation requires not the heavy-handed response the administration has proposed but instead a humanitarian response that takes into account the need to protect children and families arriving at the border, allows individuals to exercise their legal right to apply for asylum, and lives up to the values of freedom and refuge upon which America was founded."
https://www.americanprogress.org/iss...dministration/

“Our southern border is a pipeline for vast quantities of illegal drugs including meth, heroin, cocaine, and fentanyl.” – Donald Trump

The president insists that a border wall is needed to stop the entry of dangerous drugs along the southern border. However, the Justice Department’s Drug Enforcement Administration has concluded that most drug trafficking occurs through ports of entry into the United States, not in between them. CBP drug seizure data confirm this finding. Additionally, the purest form of fentanyl, an extremely strong opioid, is often transported into the United States through the mail. A wall would do little to stop this. In an effort to halt the trafficking of these dangerous drugs into the country, the Democratic House members appointed to the conference committee currently considering the fiscal year 2019 Homeland Security appropriations bill have proposed far more effective solutions: investing in new screening equipment “at the land ports of entry” and purchasing “new equipment at mail processing facilities.”

https://www.americanprogress.org/iss...dministration/

So no, no National Emergency. My point in making this thread was to point out that this emergency seems to have fallen off the radar after Cohen testified before Congress.
And to replay Trump owning himself saying he could have gone a different route if he wasn't in such a hurry to get wall funding.

Gaffe

He's a compulsive liar and you have very poor reading comprehension skills