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    Druff lives in LA. He has spent his life in this one place. For him, this is his reality.

    On this MLK day we must be understanding and treat LA residents as equal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuntmissioner View Post
    Lake Tahoe area relatively scenic?

    You don't say.
    Tahoe is obvious.

    These are towns on flat land at the foot of the mountain. Not nearly as nice as Tahoe, scenery-wise, but you do get a nice snow-capped mountains view in the winter, and even the summer can look fairly nice.

    Gardnerville/Minden have two real problems, though:

    1) Isolation. There are small towns with nothing appreciable to the south and east for hundreds of miles. To the north are Carson City (much smaller than you think) and Reno (about an hour away). To the west is Tahoe. Other than that, pretty much nothing.

    2) Brtual speed limits. The towns support themselves by writing BS tickets for motorists passing through. The speed limit is 15 MPH on Main Street. That's right, 15. Totally unjustified. And if you dare speed just a tiny bit over, they'll pull you over and ticket you. It's bad enough to deal with this for a few minutes on the way to Tahoe, but extremely maddening to live with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Druff lives in LA. He has spent his life in this one place. For him, this is his reality.

    On this MLK day we must be understanding and treat LA residents as equal.
    I've lived in several places outside of LA, including Las Vegas.

    I also wasn't even born in the western US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donkdowndonedied View Post
    It actually isn't skewed. You want it skewed, but it is not. I'd like to see the source of your claims at least.
    Again, I will ask which claims of mine you doubt.

    Why do you think towns with high illegal immigrant populations have bad violent crime problems? Are the white people coming in and committing crimes against the peaceful illegal aliens?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Gardnerville/Minden have two real problems, though:

    2) Brtual speed limits. The towns support themselves by writing BS tickets for motorists passing through. The speed limit is 15 MPH on Main Street. That's right, 15. Totally unjustified. And if you dare speed just a tiny bit over, they'll pull you over and ticket you. It's bad enough to deal with this for a few minutes on the way to Tahoe, but extremely maddening to live with.
    There you go again exaggerating how low the normal spped limit is. Because it’s only 15 MPH in school zones when they are active.

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    Were Republicans cowardly or unethical not to go along with [convicting Trump in the second impeachment Senate trial]? No. The smart move was to reject it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Instead of relying upon idiotic charts and graphs to make highly skewed points, how about just asking yourself this:

    How many cities with large illegal immigrant populations in the US are considered safe?

    Are there any?

    I know tons which are considered very unsafe, where violent crime and gang violence are rampant.

    El Paso

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    Quote Originally Posted by MumblesBadly View Post
    There you go again exaggerating how low the normal spped limit is. Because it’s only 15 MPH in school zones when they are active.

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    GTFO with your Google Maps. Maybe it's old?

    I encountered the 15MPH at all times of the day whenever I drove to Tahoe.

    Unless they changed it since July 2017 (the last time I was there), it is 15 MPH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Again, I will ask which claims of mine you doubt.

    Why do you think towns with high illegal immigrant populations have bad violent crime problems? Are the white people coming in and committing crimes against the peaceful illegal aliens?
    i'm not sure what point you are making.

    illegal immigrants -- at least those crossing the border and not overstaying a visa -- would almost certainly be extremely poor and thus living in slums. aren't all poor neighborhoods prone to crime?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
    i'm not sure what point you are making.

    illegal immigrants -- at least those crossing the border and not overstaying a visa -- would almost certainly be extremely poor and thus living in slums. aren't all poor neighborhoods prone to crime?
    Not all poor neighborhoods are prone to crime, but yes, that's part of my point.

    Poor immigrants over 35 crossing illegally into the US in order to give their family a better life are probably not going to commit many crimes, but their kids will commit plenty, as will single young men crossing the border.

    Why are we allowing this to add to this country's already high (by first world standards) violent crime problem?

    The problem is that the left refuses to admit that illegals generally bring crime along with them (whether it's them or their kids), because if they admit this, they feel they've lost the argument right there.

    The American left loves to make excuses for those they are trying to defend, even when it is totally detached from reality.

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    Druff has gone off the deep end

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    GTFO with your Google Maps. Maybe it's old?

    I encountered the 15MPH at all times of the day whenever I drove to Tahoe.

    Unless they changed it since July 2017 (the last time I was there), it is 15 MPH.
    Your memory is most likely fooling you. Here’s a Yelp review from someone from over 2 years ago that mentions the speed limit on the main road through town.

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    But if you can submit evidence of your own, such as a copy of a speeding ticket you got for exceeding the post speed limit of 15 MPH outside of the active school zone window, please post it here. Otherwise, I suggest that you revisit your confidence in your memory of such emotionally charged incidents.
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    Were Republicans cowardly or unethical not to go along with [convicting Trump in the second impeachment Senate trial]? No. The smart move was to reject it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MumblesBadly View Post
    Your memory is most likely fooling you. Here’s a Yelp review from someone from over 2 years ago that mentions the speed limit on the main road through town.

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    But if you can submit evidence of your own, such as a copy of a speeding ticket you got for exceeding the post speed limit of 15 MPH outside of the active school zone window, please post it here. Otherwise, I suggest that you revisit your confidence in your memory of such emotionally charged incidents.
    Buddy you’re about this close from getting banned. Don’t you know he runs this site at a loss? His LPR can’t take your added stress. HIS MEMORY IS INFALLIBLE!!!

     
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      MumblesBadly: Perhaps Druff can call that city’s highway department to confirm his infallible memory.
    It's hilarious that we as a society think everyone can be a dr, a lawyer, an engineer. Some people are just fucking stupid. Why can't we just accept that?

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    Druff, to help you set your mind at ease that highway officials in Gardnerville are not trying to drive tourists crazy with ridiculously low speed limits on major through roads, I called the Town Manager’s office and got “official” confirmation from one of the administrative specialists there that the lowest normal speed limit on that road (US 395) has been 25 MPH for as long as she could remember, with the limit dropping to 15 MPH in the active school zone. Here’s the town’s website with the number of that office if you want to verify for yourself.

    https://www.townofgardnerville.com/g...nt/town-staff/
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    Were Republicans cowardly or unethical not to go along with [convicting Trump in the second impeachment Senate trial]? No. The smart move was to reject it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MumblesBadly View Post
    Druff, to help you set your mind at ease that highway officials in Gardnerville are not trying to drive tourists crazy with ridiculously low speed limits on major through roads, I called the Town Manager’s office and got “official” confirmation from one of the administrative specialists there that the lowest normal speed limit on that road (US 395) has been 25 MPH for as long as she could remember, with the limit dropping to 15 MPH in the active school zone. Here’s the town’s website with the number of that office if you want to verify for yourself.

    https://www.townofgardnerville.com/g...nt/town-staff/

    Yeah, but....

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Always read these graphs, statistics, and charts with caution, as the "researchers" often have a political point to prove, and can group the data in a way which falls favorably to their ideology.
    Have a little more faith in Druffs stats bc he doesn't rely on other peoples stats.

     
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    Maybe I am remembering 15mph on one of the other roads you take within Gardnerville to get to the Kingsbury Grade up to Tahoe..

    There is definitely a 15mph portion somewhere along the route.

    The 25mph is pretty brutal anyway. Definitely there for revenue purposes, and it's heavily enforced as you might expect.

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    Back to the original point of this post, the Gardnerville murder suspect apparently went to a pawn shop in the area and sold off jewelry he took from various homes where the murders took place.

    Oops!

    He netted less than $1000 total.

    If this guy really committed 4 murders for less than $1000, he's one of the biggest idiots ever.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Maybe I am remembering 15mph on one of the other roads you take within Gardnerville to get to the Kingsbury Grade up to Tahoe..

    There is definitely a 15mph portion somewhere along the route.

    The 25mph is pretty brutal anyway. Definitely there for revenue purposes, and it's heavily enforced as you might expect.
    The Gardnerville town employee I talked with said that the speed limit on US 395 is managed by the state because it is a US highway. There are probably Nevada DOT regs that are used to guide what speed limits are possible in higher population areas can be based on population density combined with requests from local officials. Because excessively speed limits impede transportion of goods, the state government isn’t likely to let the local officials set an unreasonably low speed limit on a through-truck route. But the extremely strict enforcement is definitely consistent with that local government trying to farm extra revenues from unsuspecting tourists.
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    I actually hope this [second impeachment] succeeds, because I want Trump put down politically like a sick, 14-year-old dog. ... I don't want him complicating the 2024 primary season. I just want him done.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Were Republicans cowardly or unethical not to go along with [convicting Trump in the second impeachment Senate trial]? No. The smart move was to reject it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MumblesBadly View Post
    The Gardnerville town employee I talked with said that the speed limit on US 395 is managed by the state because it is a US highway. There are probably Nevada DOT regs that are used to guide what speed limits are possible in higher population areas can be based on population density combined with requests from local officials. Because excessively speed limits impede transportion of goods, the state government isn’t likely to let the local officials set an unreasonably low speed limit on a through-truck route. But the extremely strict enforcement is definitely consistent with that local government trying to farm extra revenues from unsuspecting tourists.
    I have a hard time believing that the state independently set the speed limit to 25.

    There was probably some trickery or corruption involved in making this happen.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    I have a hard time believing that the state independently set the speed limit to 25.

    There was probably some trickery or corruption involved in making this happen.
    I didn’t say that. The state probably responds to requests by local officials to lower the speed limit from the default limit for a particular road for safety reasons. And as long as the certain criteria related to density, traffic flow, etc, are met per the state’s DOT guidelines, the state agrees to the request.
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    I actually hope this [second impeachment] succeeds, because I want Trump put down politically like a sick, 14-year-old dog. ... I don't want him complicating the 2024 primary season. I just want him done.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Were Republicans cowardly or unethical not to go along with [convicting Trump in the second impeachment Senate trial]? No. The smart move was to reject it.

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