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    Did Druff get 86d from a Vegas Casino and kept it silent???

    So Dan.. Do share.. Im shocked.. I believe your story actually but the whole Dan Druff 7 Stars member getting 86d from a Casino property made me do a Double take.. Below is Dan's original posting on his sister forum VCT.. Guessing it was MGM possibly maybe Cosmo.. Cant see him caring about Stations banhammering him or some POS rinky dink operation even if it was Boyd.. Another reason to suspect it was an MGM property is the previous rumor of an MGM CET merger which could seriously fuck Druff if it happens and this 86 did occur could screw with his CET issues and even the WSOP..


    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff
    I'm not ready to go fully public with this yet, but I'm getting close.

    Here's the situation:

    A certain Vegas casino has banned me from their property as a result of something I did not do.

    This isn't one of these cases here an AP gets caught APing, and then makes up lies that he wasn't doing anything out of the ordinary.

    I was accused of something totally off-the-wall, which doesn't even involve casino play.

    I only found out about this because I attempted to make a reservation there back in October, and they told me I was banned.

    After a LOT of effort, I got them to reveal to me the reason, and I was floored. It was something I didn't do, and would be easy to prove I didn't do.

    However, they are completely uninterested in investigating further. In fact, the "investigations" group at the casino has tried their hardest to stay out of contact with me. I was able to get a sympathetic employee in another department to pressure them to call me, at which point the ban reason was revealed. They promised a re-investigation, but then never got back to me. My attempts to reach them again have resulted in failure, and they passed a message to the sympathetic employee that they are pretty much done with the matter, and my ban is final.

    This is infuriating, because I was banned for something I totally didn't do. It would be easy to prove myself innocent, but they're not letting me.

    I realize it's up to each casino's discretion, regarding who is allowed in property, so I'm probably fucked.

    Separately, I earned some points which never got to be used, and I plan to file a complaint with gaming to at least get the value of those points paid to me. (Dancer just did the same thing recently after he got banned.)

    Questions:

    1) Is there anything further I can do at this point, or am I completely fucked regarding reversing the ban? Again, this ban was NOT due to AP play, and it was due to some error where they believe I did something that I didn't. I just need someone willing to take a short time to investigate a little further.

    2) Do any of you have experience going to gaming and claiming points which were confiscated after a ban?


    I will not reveal the property at this time, even if you guys guess it correctly. I will reveal it publicly around the same time I file my gaming complaint.

    I will only go as far to say that it was NOT at a Caesars property, where I remain in good standing.

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    Druff got Mis- indentified.

    He is as honest as the day is long in July.

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    Yes, something did happen, and I am currently banned from a certain property in Vegas. All I'll reveal right now is that it's NOT a Caesars property.

    There was no incident at this casino. I did not have any contact with security. I did not argue with any employees. I did not argue with any other customers. There was zero disturbance of any kind.

    Furthermore, I was not banned for any gaming-related reason.

    I was banned for a strange thing which I didn't do. It must have been a case of mistaken identity or something.

    I would not have a legal case to reinstate myself, because casinos can ban me at any time for any reason (other than federally protected discrimination, which this isn't.)

    Therefore, I am at the casino's mercy as to whether or not I will be unbanned -- which looks quite unlikely at this point, even though I could prove I didn't do what I was accused of doing, if they gave me a chance. However, it doesn't look like they're interested in listening to me anymore.

    I will reveal all once I file my complaint with Nevada Gaming in order to get my points back.

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    i can't imagine you will receive your points back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
    i can't imagine you will receive your points back.
    Not voluntarily, but believe it or not, Nevada has a state law requiring casinos to cash out people's accumulated points if they get banned (unless the points were earned via cheating).

    This is due to the fact that accumulated points are considered part of the players' "winnings". Players are NOT entitled to redeem future offers, but anything they've accumulated in a point bank needs to be cashed out in some way.

    Famous video poker player Bob Dancer recently wrote a blog about going to Gaming over something similar: https://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/gamb...gaming-part-i/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
    i can't imagine you will receive your points back.
    Not voluntarily, but believe it or not, Nevada has a state law requiring casinos to cash out people's accumulated points if they get banned (unless the points were earned via cheating).

    This is due to the fact that accumulated points are considered part of the players' "winnings". Players are NOT entitled to redeem future offers, but anything they've accumulated in a point bank needs to be cashed out in some way.

    Famous video poker player Bob Dancer recently wrote a blog about going to Gaming over something similar: https://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/gamb...gaming-part-i/
    As i recall Mgm doing whatever they could to take / force redemption of express comps for table players once they realized some of us had accumulated tens of thousands of dollars worth. So many in fact that they had to account for them as liabilities in the quarterly reports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    Not voluntarily, but believe it or not, Nevada has a state law requiring casinos to cash out people's accumulated points if they get banned (unless the points were earned via cheating).

    This is due to the fact that accumulated points are considered part of the players' "winnings". Players are NOT entitled to redeem future offers, but anything they've accumulated in a point bank needs to be cashed out in some way.

    Famous video poker player Bob Dancer recently wrote a blog about going to Gaming over something similar: https://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/gamb...gaming-part-i/
    As i recall Mgm doing whatever they could to take / force redemption of express comps for table players once they realized some of us had accumulated tens of thousands of dollars worth. So many in fact that they had to account for them as liabilities in the quarterly reports.
    I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here. What you're saying above would seem to support what I said.

    BTW it is legal to have points expire. Players just need to be able to redeem them without hindrance, and to have proper knowledge of the expiration date.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post

    As i recall Mgm doing whatever they could to take / force redemption of express comps for table players once they realized some of us had accumulated tens of thousands of dollars worth. So many in fact that they had to account for them as liabilities in the quarterly reports.
    I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here. What you're saying above would seem to support what I said.

    BTW it is legal to have points expire. Players just need to be able to redeem them without hindrance, and to have proper knowledge of the expiration date.
    No point. Just an anecdote. Will be interested in your outcome.

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    I not sure what Druff said on the radio show about what exactly he was banned for.

    But if he was banned from Bellagio or any of MGM Resorts properties they usually ban you from ALL their casinos.

    I think some female player thought some guy stole or harassed her and she called security and the person that she identified looked exactly like Todd Witteles.


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    They told Druff he was banned for:

    - promoting an illegal crypto currency gambling website out of Nevada. (marine mammal hat tipped off security)

    or

    - flying a drone over the gaming floor

    or

    - sitting at video poker machine with $0 for over 9 hours while talking on the phone to some girl he recently met on the internet

    or

    - shitting into his hand and casually rubbing it all over his favorite VP machine before his dinner break - then, later that night - after his session - convincing the front desk to give him a free room because of the dried shit he got under his finger nails from playing on their VP machines.


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    Real reason is they confused Todd for someone else. But before they figured out they were wrong, they did a little googling and realized there's no good reason for them to do any business with Todd (even if he's been falsely accused of taking a shit on the $50 9/6 JOB machine and mashing it into the bill acceptor). The most recent radiodcast will probably make them feel good about their decision. (not trying to hate on Todd here)

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    Still no update, Iím dying to know what happened.

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    its been one month or so since radio where this was mentioned dish the dirt time ,please

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    Quote Originally Posted by FRANKRIZZO View Post
    its been one month or so since radio where this was mentioned dish the dirt time ,please

    what happened 'Druff?

     
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