In case you're wondering where 4Dragons went...

[adamantium]

I have no idea what the US standard is for being good at photoshop, but he was pretty shitty at it in my eyes

[sonatine]

a close friend used to work network security for a government agency that employed a tremendous number of scientists.

scientists are prone to having large egos, poor impulse control, and a general disdain of boundaries.

so they would view porn on their work computers.

nothing edgy usually, mind you (again; usually), but often they would end up with one of those popups containing dozens if not hundreds of thumbnails.

nothing they sought out, just literally a pop up.

now, said government agency (and every other large service provider that hosts user content of any form) has a database of digital signatures for known images of child abuse.

and guess what, a measurable percentage of those thumbnail popup ads would contain a few images that featured under aged models. aka child pornography, as legally defined. no one deliberately put them there. they got hoovered up off porn newsgroups, image boards, anywhere and everywhere that had downloadable tits.

heres the thing tho; it didnt matter. once the image was transferred digitally to their computer, the network scanners flagged it and usually within 24 hours that scientist was frog marched off the premises.

security clearance revoked.

career destroyed.

and we are talking about people with decades long careers who deliberately avoided cashing in on their skills so they could help save the fucking planet.

if i had to guess, 4d landed in the grey zone between people who accidentally stumble across child pornography and actual pedophiles who collect CP.

towards the end of his tenure here he made no secret that he was farming for pro-trump talking points from /pol/ on 4chan and once you go down that rabbithole, youre pretty much 2 mouse clicks away from actual child porn threads that get posted in /b/.

its entirely possible his curiosity got the best of him and he thought he could just casually click on a link and see what the big deal was and it just happened to be a link hosted on an fbi honeypot.

that would 100% explain the lack of prosecutorial ambition at bar.

actual pedos tend to collect CP in earnest so they can trade, thats usually how the end up with thousands of images. this doesnt feel like one of those situations at face value.

that said he clearly 100% did something intentionally to end up in the jackpot so fuck that guy.

[adamantium]

a close friend used to work network security for a government agency that employed a tremendous number of scientists.

scientists are prone to having large egos, poor impulse control, and a general disdain of boundaries.

so they would view porn on their work computers.

nothing edgy usually, mind you (again; usually), but often they would end up with one of those popups containing dozens if not hundreds of thumbnails.

nothing they sought out, just literally a pop up.

now, said government agency (and every other large service provider that hosts user content of any form) has a database of digital signatures for known images of child abuse.

and guess what, a measurable percentage of those thumbnail popup ads would contain a few images that featured under aged models. aka child pornography, as legally defined. no one deliberately put them there. they got hoovered up off porn newsgroups, image boards, anywhere and everywhere that had downloadable tits.

heres the thing tho; it didnt matter. once the image was transferred digitally to their computer, the network scanners flagged it and usually within 24 hours that scientist was frog marched off the premises.

security clearance revoked.

career destroyed.

and we are talking about people with decades long careers who deliberately avoided cashing in on their skills so they could help save the fucking planet.

if i had to guess, 4d landed in the grey zone between people who accidentally stumble across child pornography and actual pedophiles who collect CP.

towards the end of his tenure here he made no secret that he was farming for pro-trump talking points from /pol/ on 4chan and once you go down that rabbithole, youre pretty much 2 mouse clicks away from actual child porn threads that get posted in /b/.

its entirely possible his curiosity got the best of him and he thought he could just casually click on a link and see what the big deal was and it just happened to be a link hosted on an fbi honeypot.

that would 100% explain the lack of prosecutorial ambition at bar.

actual pedos tend to collect CP in earnest so they can trade, thats usually how the end up with thousands of images. this doesnt feel like one of those situations at face value.

that said he clearly 100% did something intentionally to end up in the jackpot so fuck that guy.

Yea Im calling BS on that theory

[sonatine]

Yea Im calling BS on that theory

im waiting for the part of this where you explain what parts dont fit. he got the absolute minimum possible charges across the board.

[Bootsy Collins]

a close friend used to work network security for a government agency that employed a tremendous number of scientists.

scientists are prone to having large egos, poor impulse control, and a general disdain of boundaries.

so they would view porn on their work computers.

nothing edgy usually, mind you (again; usually), but often they would end up with one of those popups containing dozens if not hundreds of thumbnails.

nothing they sought out, just literally a pop up.

now, said government agency (and every other large service provider that hosts user content of any form) has a database of digital signatures for known images of child abuse.

and guess what, a measurable percentage of those thumbnail popup ads would contain a few images that featured under aged models. aka child pornography, as legally defined. no one deliberately put them there. they got hoovered up off porn newsgroups, image boards, anywhere and everywhere that had downloadable tits.

heres the thing tho; it didnt matter. once the image was transferred digitally to their computer, the network scanners flagged it and usually within 24 hours that scientist was frog marched off the premises.

security clearance revoked.

career destroyed.

and we are talking about people with decades long careers who deliberately avoided cashing in on their skills so they could help save the fucking planet.

if i had to guess, 4d landed in the grey zone between people who accidentally stumble across child pornography and actual pedophiles who collect CP.

towards the end of his tenure here he made no secret that he was farming for pro-trump talking points from /pol/ on 4chan and once you go down that rabbithole, youre pretty much 2 mouse clicks away from actual child porn threads that get posted in /b/.

its entirely possible his curiosity got the best of him and he thought he could just casually click on a link and see what the big deal was and it just happened to be a link hosted on an fbi honeypot.

that would 100% explain the lack of prosecutorial ambition at bar.

actual pedos tend to collect CP in earnest so they can trade, thats usually how the end up with thousands of images. this doesnt feel like one of those situations at face value.

that said he clearly 100% did something intentionally to end up in the jackpot so fuck that guy.

Yea Im calling BS on that theory

All of what Tine said is the truth. I have some stories to share in the very near future. I just can’t do so yet.

[adamantium]

Yea Im calling BS on that theory

im waiting for the part of this where you explain what parts dont fit. he got the absolute minimum possible charges across the board.

Youre not getting charges and 5 years probation for some fucking pop up or stumbeling on pic on 4 chan, use some god damn common sense and less neck beard

[sonatine]

im waiting for the part of this where you explain what parts dont fit. he got the absolute minimum possible charges across the board.

Youre not getting charges and 5 years probation for some fucking pop up or stumbeling on pic on 4 chan, use some god damn common sense and less neck beard

you literally didnt read my post.

sober up.

read a book.

[blake]

this would be a good time to ask if i should be concerned that porn on major tube streaming sites like pornhub, xvideos, etc is illegal. or do those sites have ways of filtering that stuff out.

[Dan Druff]

I'm still going with the theory that he was on one of those pedo trading networks, but was just one of those guys downloading and re-uploading said underage porn, and was not involved in either running these networks nor producing any videos.

I think there's also a fair chance that these videos involved teen girls over 14, and not the outrageously sick shit involving 8-year-olds or whatever.

He probably got nailed in one of those stings, and then was able to strike a probationary deal because his role in the entire thing was small, and they figured they'd take the sure-thing conviction instead of rolling the dice in court against basically an internet downloader/uploader.

I highly doubt this was a case where he accidentally clicked on some link on a shady site and ended up with child porn on his machine.

At the same time, as has already been pointed out, there's no way he's only getting probation if he were a major distributor of child porn.

[Dan Druff]

this would be a good time to ask if i should be concerned that porn on major tube streaming sites like pornhub, xvideos, etc is illegal. or do those sites have ways of filtering that stuff out.

There probably is some illegal porn on those sites, but I doubt anyone is going to get in trouble for viewing it unless they're specifically seeking out videos there which are said to feature underage children.

If you're just watching a video like "HOT TEEN SUCKS HUGE COCK", nothing's going to happen to you, unless the age of the teen is specified, and it's under 18 (and even then, the ones likely to be in trouble are the sites themselves and the uploader).

[blake]

this would be a good time to ask if i should be concerned that porn on major tube streaming sites like pornhub, xvideos, etc is illegal. or do those sites have ways of filtering that stuff out.

There probably is some illegal porn on those sites, but I doubt anyone is going to get in trouble for viewing it unless they're specifically seeking out videos there which are said to feature underage children.

If you're just watching a video like "HOT TEEN SUCKS HUGE COCK", nothing's going to happen to you, unless the age of the teen is specified, and it's under 18 (and even then, the ones likely to be in trouble are the sites themselves and the uploader).

ok so searching hot teen sucks huge cock is fine then. thank god

[sonatine]

I'm still going with the theory that he was on one of those pedo trading networks, but was just one of those guys downloading and re-uploading said underage porn, and was not involved in either running these networks nor producing any videos.

I think there's also a fair chance that these videos involved teen girls over 14, and not the outrageously sick shit involving 8-year-olds or whatever.

He probably got nailed in one of those stings, and then was able to strike a probationary deal because his role in the entire thing was small, and they figured they'd take the sure-thing conviction instead of rolling the dice in court against basically an internet downloader/uploader.

I highly doubt this was a case where he accidentally clicked on some link on a shady site and ended up with child porn on his machine.

At the same time, as has already been pointed out, there's no way he's only getting probation if he were a major distributor of child porn.

yeah thats distribution and its a mandatory minimum in federal prison.

[limitles]

this would be a good time to ask if i should be concerned that porn on major tube streaming sites like pornhub, xvideos, etc is illegal. or do those sites have ways of filtering that stuff out.

There probably is some illegal porn on those sites, but I doubt anyone is going to get in trouble for viewing it unless they're specifically seeking out videos there which are said to feature underage children.

If you're just watching a video like "HOT TEEN SUCKS HUGE COCK", nothing's going to happen to you, unless the age of the teen is specified, and it's under 18 (and even then, the ones likely to be in trouble are the sites themselves and the uploader).

How do you think a search for "DADDY SMELLS A DIRTY DIAPER" would be treated?

[Dan Druff]

I'm still going with the theory that he was on one of those pedo trading networks, but was just one of those guys downloading and re-uploading said underage porn, and was not involved in either running these networks nor producing any videos.

I think there's also a fair chance that these videos involved teen girls over 14, and not the outrageously sick shit involving 8-year-olds or whatever.

He probably got nailed in one of those stings, and then was able to strike a probationary deal because his role in the entire thing was small, and they figured they'd take the sure-thing conviction instead of rolling the dice in court against basically an internet downloader/uploader.

I highly doubt this was a case where he accidentally clicked on some link on a shady site and ended up with child porn on his machine.

At the same time, as has already been pointed out, there's no way he's only getting probation if he were a major distributor of child porn.

yeah thats distribution and its a mandatory minimum in federal prison.

Go look at the convictions:

Sentence #3:
Child Sex. Abusive Material/Activity-Distributing/Promoting

[BeerAndPoker]

Obv a long shot especially if it wasn't as big of a case but why didn't Chris Hansen cover this operation just for lolz?

I'm sure Sammy was profiting off this to some extent he was always looking for freelance work and sickos probably paid well for this type of shit.

Perhaps in his plea he gave up bigger fish in order to have his charges reduced.

[Dan Druff]

Obv a long shot especially if it wasn't as big of a case but why didn't Chris Hansen cover this operation just for lolz?

I'm sure Sammy was profiting off this to some extent he was always looking for freelance work and sickos probably paid well for this type of shit.

Perhaps in his plea he gave up bigger fish in order to have his charges reduced.

Disagree. If he were selling this shit, he would have gotten a stiffer sentence.

This really sounds to me like downloading/uploading, and then getting caught in a sting.

[Mintjewlips]

What kind of guy goes to college and still doesn't know that looking at porn on company property is a bad idea? I mean wtf? And to even go the extra mile and click on those pop ups?? I'm impulsive as they come and even I would never do that.

Also, anyone against outing this behavior is almost as disgusting as the people doing the behavior.

Pre pubescent post pubescent doesn't matter imo, a child is still a child.

I see those young looking vietnamese chicks on the tubes and it makes me cringe, and after I finish jerking off I feel horrible....

[BeerAndPoker]

Obv a long shot especially if it wasn't as big of a case but why didn't Chris Hansen cover this operation just for lolz?

I'm sure Sammy was profiting off this to some extent he was always looking for freelance work and sickos probably paid well for this type of shit.

Perhaps in his plea he gave up bigger fish in order to have his charges reduced.

Disagree. If he were selling this shit, he would have gotten a stiffer sentence.

This really sounds to me like downloading/uploading, and then getting caught in a sting.

He always seemed in need of money so I have a hard time believing he didn't make profit off this to some extent.

It's possible besides trading that he created or maintained the interface they used, or they hired him for some job along the way where he got caught up who the hell knows but I believe he made at least something from this.

[limitles]

Disagree. If he were selling this shit, he would have gotten a stiffer sentence.

This really sounds to me like downloading/uploading, and then getting caught in a sting.

He always seemed in need of money so I have a hard time believing he didn't make profit off this to some extent.

It's possible besides trading that he created or maintained the interface they used, or they hired him for some job along the way where he got caught up who the hell knows but I believe he made at least something from this.

He my have made a buck out of it but no one who isn't into this sort of thing would consider working for those who do
never mind not calling the authorities.

[Crowe Diddly]

He always seemed in need of money so I have a hard time believing he didn't make profit off this to some extent.

or maybe it was where his money was going, and why he needed money.

or neither.