In case you're wondering where 4Dragons went...

[garrett]

Go look at the convictions:

Sentence #3:
Child Sex. Abusive Material/Activity-Distributing/Promoting

ach.. mea culpa possibly. ill have to look into particulars i suppose, eg it may be saying any/all of these are relevant. so the abusive material = yes, distro = no, promoting = no.

also there is a huge difference between contributing to dark web CP dumps and photoshopping x-rated simpsons jpgs, which btw 100% constitutes child pornography under the current statutes and has been prosecuted as such in the recent past.

Seems to me you are really trying to make light of this in a way that favors 4D here, no one in their right mind thinks this guy was photo-shopping Simpson .jpg's, right...

I'd bet if he was adding content to these places with his ability, and judging by how you all seem to think he was such a talented internet artist, it was more likely of some really perverse things. Feels almost as if a few posting in this thread are trying to in an ever so slight of way create some plausible doubt in this guys situation. I doubt that's how it really is, he wasnt just accused here, he obviously wasn't even able to plea out to a better (lesser???) charge. The State had him by the balls and he had no choice but plead guilty to what he did here. No one rolls over and just takes charges like this, no one. And you surely dont want to end up in any institution labeled as such. Obviously he is guilty as charged, let that sink in here.

[Sheesfaced]

Shut up Gar...

... wait, that’s actually a decent post. Didn’t see that coming.

[OSA]

4Dragons didnt donate to my threads. Neither did Jasep, or all the other scammers on here which brings up a good point.

Only scammers and pedofiles refuse to donate to my fundraising threads.

Maybe I should pretend Im a 14 yr old boy needing money to buy Juul Pods or something...maybe THEN ill get some attention from you sick degenerate fucks.

[BetCheckBet]

Also I’m not a fan of 4d primarily for his alt right views but is there a reason this guys personal Info is being posted here? We just had an issue about a guy who planned his fake death because he was being harassed in here. Supposedly at least .... hence why I’m pretty much gone as well

This guy likely already had his life ruined because of this and I fail to see why it’s okay for the site owner to post his real name. As far as I know nothing here has anything to do with this website .

Again this is coming from someone who didn’t like the guy... you could have simply stated the issue without linking to his real name. God knows with how many enemies he’s had what some people on this forum will do

[Sloppy Joe]

I've always felt like more details / content should be provided on these sex registries - like, if a 19 year old gets popped banging a 17 year old that's way different contextually than if its a 29 year old.

LOL at one of the most vocal members of PFA Team Retard being a pedo. Always thought that Pockles would be the one to down for child porn after he went after Sonatine and dumped a curiously large amount of sexually suggestive images of boys while on a bender.

Pedos are a weird assortment. My brother's insanely rich HS friend got arrested in his dorm while a freshman at UNC and charged with posing as a 19 year old girl getting 13 year old boys to send him nudes. Zero indicators to anyone, guy was smart, into sports etc. Even one of the best defense lawyers in NC couldn't do better than securing him a 12 year mandatory stretch in fed supermax.

[Lord of the Fraud]

Go look at the convictions:

ach.. mea culpa possibly. ill have to look into particulars i suppose, eg it may be saying any/all of these are relevant. so the abusive material = yes, distro = no, promoting = no.

also there is a huge difference between contributing to dark web CP dumps and photoshopping x-rated simpsons jpgs, which btw 100% constitutes child pornography under the current statutes and has been prosecuted as such in the recent past.

Seems to me you are really trying to make light of this in a way that favors 4D here, no one in their right mind thinks this guy was photo-shopping Simpson .jpg's, right...

I'd bet if he was adding content to these places with his ability, and judging by how you all seem to think he was such a talented internet artist, it was more likely of some really perverse things. Feels almost as if a few posting in this thread are trying to in an ever so slight of way create some plausible doubt in this guys situation. I doubt that's how it really is, he wasnt just accused here, he obviously wasn't even able to plea out to a better (lesser???) charge. The State had him by the balls and he had no choice but plead guilty to what he did here. No one rolls over and just takes charges like this, no one. And you surely dont want to end up in any institution labeled as such. Obviously he is guilty as charged, let that sink in here.

Garrett has naied it.

I'm really surprised that so many people are hinting at 4d should be given the benefit of the doubt... Don't go near kiddie porn and there won't be any fucking doubt to haggle over.

And wishing him well? Hoping he gets treatment to fix those twisted urges?

Fuck sake, the guy is a nonce. Cunt should be on death row.

[zealanddonk]

That's rookie of the year sorted.

what happened to '16 and '17?

Signature limitations: 16 was Jewdonk vs some donk fighting in mexico about wordpress websites.
17 was Sdouble being Sdouble and the las vegas meet up with the lobster mac and cheese that I seem to recall OSA involved himself in.

[ErickAA]

ach.. mea culpa possibly. ill have to look into particulars i suppose, eg it may be saying any/all of these are relevant. so the abusive material = yes, distro = no, promoting = no.

also there is a huge difference between contributing to dark web CP dumps and photoshopping x-rated simpsons jpgs, which btw 100% constitutes child pornography under the current statutes and has been prosecuted as such in the recent past.

Seems to me you are really trying to make light of this in a way that favors 4D here, no one in their right mind thinks this guy was photo-shopping Simpson .jpg's, right...

I'd bet if he was adding content to these places with his ability, and judging by how you all seem to think he was such a talented internet artist, it was more likely of some really perverse things. Feels almost as if a few posting in this thread are trying to in an ever so slight of way create some plausible doubt in this guys situation. I doubt that's how it really is, he wasnt just accused here, he obviously wasn't even able to plea out to a better (lesser???) charge. The State had him by the balls and he had no choice but plead guilty to what he did here. No one rolls over and just takes charges like this, no one. And you surely dont want to end up in any institution labeled as such. Obviously he is guilty as charged, let that sink in here.

Garrett has naied it.

I'm really surprised that so many people are hinting at 4d should be given the benefit of the doubt... Don't go near kiddie porn and there won't be any fucking doubt to haggle over.

And wishing him well? Hoping he gets treatment to fix those twisted urges?

Fuck sake, the guy is a nonce. Cunt should be on death row.

I am not saying giving anyone the benefit of the doubt. I would say completely reserve judgement without the details. I think you underestimate just how broken our criminal justice system is, especially when it pertains to political hot button subjects like "pedophilia," with politically motivated DAs who have no real interest in justice or right or wrong making politically motivated decisions. Whatever criminal justice system he went through, I certainly am not giving them the benefit of the doubt with no details.

[Mintjewlips]

Well all this could be settled with a link to an indictment...or if someone gets some screen shots...

[Ryback_feed_me_more]

You can only take people as you find them, Garrett.

Not everybody who leaves the forum is a child sex offender.

True some are guilty of domestic violence against their parents and end up in one of those green padded smocks instead.. If the shit fits Gare wear it and you wore it well you fucktard

[Ryback_feed_me_more]

Ohh jesus christ...

You know all I can think about now, realizing you have/had a pedo in your mits is all the people on this forum who swore losing 4D was such a massacre to the board. And how you all cried that he was gone instead of some other members here. You people who though that way, and that this forum was better off with this guy around kindly go fuck yourselves. How delusional some people are on this board, who swore losing 4D as a poster was actually a determent to this community. Clearly the guy is a total fucking pos, amazing how so many of you went on and on how this forum needed 4D as a poster, bc he was so incredible.

wow what a bunch of fucking morons you ones are, im gonna go back and peruse through some threads to see who the most vocal supporters of 4D were because clerly what this forum needs is a pedo convicted of child porn crimes posting instead of some other people you all seem to want banned. F outta here!

anyone who steadfastly supported 4D, and said this forum was terrible bc of his loss, kindly go fuck yourselves and there were quite a few of you from what i remember.

You can be a good poster and a bad person Garrett. I liked 4D’s posts. Not going to deny it, but am I going to have a beer with him? No fucking way.

Hed likely prefer a glass of koolaid, grape Im guessing.. So he could maybe slip some roofies in it for some young girl..

[Ryback_feed_me_more]

I'm still going with the theory that he was on one of those pedo trading networks, but was just one of those guys downloading and re-uploading said underage porn, and was not involved in either running these networks nor producing any videos.

I think there's also a fair chance that these videos involved teen girls over 14, and not the outrageously sick shit involving 8-year-olds or whatever.

He probably got nailed in one of those stings, and then was able to strike a probationary deal because his role in the entire thing was small, and they figured they'd take the sure-thing conviction instead of rolling the dice in court against basically an internet downloader/uploader.

I highly doubt this was a case where he accidentally clicked on some link on a shady site and ended up with child porn on his machine.

At the same time, as has already been pointed out, there's no way he's only getting probation if he were a major distributor of child porn.

yeah thats distribution and its a mandatory minimum in federal prison.

Not if the Feds didnt prosecute.. Now I happen to be friends with a gal (I dated her back 99-2001 and when we split she moved to TN and married the pervo like 6 months later) who was married to that CP Gimp who got busted by Chris Hansen on Dateline and did do federal time because the dummy drove from TN to Kentucky to meet a "14yr old girl" but his federal time was for crossing state lines for the purpose of committing a sex act with a minor.. He got double fisted by the judicial system because they seized the computer out of the house she and the gimp shared and he got tagged for the child porno by State of TN and got an additional 8 yrs in the State Prison System for that.. If your curious google Dustin McPhetridge

[Ryback_feed_me_more]

some drunk jagoff taking a piss on the wall of the bar he just left isn't gonna be charged with pedophilia.

No but depending on the state and county/state atty they can be slapped with indecent exposure charge which is a registerable offense on Sex Offender Registries Nationwide.. Common sense should dictate some drunk pissing out back of a bar on the wall at 2am isnt the same as some whackjob in a trenchcoat waving his willy at folks as a creeper..

[Ryback_feed_me_more]

1) It's amazing to me that someone with this apparently high level of IT knowledge would not know that the dark web has been totally infiltrated by law enforcement, or maybe his obsession was just that strong.

2) How do these guys separate their own daughters from the girls in the porn in their own minds? It seems to me that most of these guys don't actually molest their own kids, but maybe I'm wrong in that assumption.

50/50 chance 4Dragons was watching and/or downloading those daddy daughter videos on XHamster and the rest.. And I agree seems to me a little disturbing that a guy can look at and send porno that is somebodyelses daughter/sister/cousin out.. I mean dude seriouslt thats some fucked up shit.. How would he like if folks were sharing porno of his kids on the net.. Likely never crossed his mind

[sonatine]

ach.. mea culpa possibly. ill have to look into particulars i suppose, eg it may be saying any/all of these are relevant. so the abusive material = yes, distro = no, promoting = no.

also there is a huge difference between contributing to dark web CP dumps and photoshopping x-rated simpsons jpgs, which btw 100% constitutes child pornography under the current statutes and has been prosecuted as such in the recent past.

Seems to me you are really trying to make light of this in a way that favors 4D here, no one in their right mind thinks this guy was photo-shopping Simpson .jpg's, right...

I'd bet if he was adding content to these places with his ability, and judging by how you all seem to think he was such a talented internet artist, it was more likely of some really perverse things. Feels almost as if a few posting in this thread are trying to in an ever so slight of way create some plausible doubt in this guys situation. I doubt that's how it really is, he wasnt just accused here, he obviously wasn't even able to plea out to a better (lesser???) charge. The State had him by the balls and he had no choice but plead guilty to what he did here. No one rolls over and just takes charges like this, no one. And you surely dont want to end up in any institution labeled as such. Obviously he is guilty as charged, let that sink in here.

Garrett has naied it.

I'm really surprised that so many people are hinting at 4d should be given the benefit of the doubt... Don't go near kiddie porn and there won't be any fucking doubt to haggle over.

And wishing him well? Hoping he gets treatment to fix those twisted urges?

Fuck sake, the guy is a nonce. Cunt should be on death row.

there is a huge, huge difference between giving someone benefit of the doubt and spelling out that the charges cover an enormous number of scenarios.

[OSA]

Seems to me you are really trying to make light of this in a way that favors 4D here, no one in their right mind thinks this guy was photo-shopping Simpson .jpg's, right...

I'd bet if he was adding content to these places with his ability, and judging by how you all seem to think he was such a talented internet artist, it was more likely of some really perverse things. Feels almost as if a few posting in this thread are trying to in an ever so slight of way create some plausible doubt in this guys situation. I doubt that's how it really is, he wasnt just accused here, he obviously wasn't even able to plea out to a better (lesser???) charge. The State had him by the balls and he had no choice but plead guilty to what he did here. No one rolls over and just takes charges like this, no one. And you surely dont want to end up in any institution labeled as such. Obviously he is guilty as charged, let that sink in here.

Garrett has naied it.

I'm really surprised that so many people are hinting at 4d should be given the benefit of the doubt... Don't go near kiddie porn and there won't be any fucking doubt to haggle over.

And wishing him well? Hoping he gets treatment to fix those twisted urges?

Fuck sake, the guy is a nonce. Cunt should be on death row.

there is a huge, huge difference between giving someone benefit of the doubt and spelling out that the charges cover an enormous number of scenarios.

Right. And OJ Simpson didn't kill his ex-wife.

[Wiganer]

To be fair, he does look like a fucking nonce.

[Lord of the Fraud]

Seems to me you are really trying to make light of this in a way that favors 4D here, no one in their right mind thinks this guy was photo-shopping Simpson .jpg's, right...

I'd bet if he was adding content to these places with his ability, and judging by how you all seem to think he was such a talented internet artist, it was more likely of some really perverse things. Feels almost as if a few posting in this thread are trying to in an ever so slight of way create some plausible doubt in this guys situation. I doubt that's how it really is, he wasnt just accused here, he obviously wasn't even able to plea out to a better (lesser???) charge. The State had him by the balls and he had no choice but plead guilty to what he did here. No one rolls over and just takes charges like this, no one. And you surely dont want to end up in any institution labeled as such. Obviously he is guilty as charged, let that sink in here.

Garrett has naied it.

I'm really surprised that so many people are hinting at 4d should be given the benefit of the doubt... Don't go near kiddie porn and there won't be any fucking doubt to haggle over.

And wishing him well? Hoping he gets treatment to fix those twisted urges?

Fuck sake, the guy is a nonce. Cunt should be on death row.

there is a huge, huge difference between giving someone benefit of the doubt and spelling out that the charges cover an enormous number of scenarios.

But absolutely all of those scenarios involve Him KNOWINGLY engaging in some form of child porn activity.

I honestly can't see a grey area here.


If you can convince me that this could happen to any one of us, then I'm snap logging off the internet for life.

[OSA]

I've always felt like more details / content should be provided on these sex registries - like, if a 19 year old gets popped banging a 17 year old that's way different contextually than if its a 29 year old.

LOL at one of the most vocal members of PFA Team Retard being a pedo. Always thought that Pockles would be the one to down for child porn after he went after Sonatine and dumped a curiously large amount of sexually suggestive images of boys while on a bender.

Pedos are a weird assortment. My brother's insanely rich HS friend got arrested in his dorm while a freshman at UNC and charged with posing as a 19 year old girl getting 13 year old boys to send him nudes. Zero indicators to anyone, guy was smart, into sports etc. Even one of the best defense lawyers in NC couldn't do better than securing him a 12 year mandatory stretch in fed supermax.

There used to be another poster on here from Ashville, NC whom I would have posed as a 19yr old girl too, if it meant getting his nudes...lol.

If that's all he did, 12 yrs seems like wayyyyy too long of a sentence. Don't think I have ever wanted to see a 13 yr old nudes, even when I was that age.

[sonatine]

Garrett has naied it.

I'm really surprised that so many people are hinting at 4d should be given the benefit of the doubt... Don't go near kiddie porn and there won't be any fucking doubt to haggle over.

And wishing him well? Hoping he gets treatment to fix those twisted urges?

Fuck sake, the guy is a nonce. Cunt should be on death row.

there is a huge, huge difference between giving someone benefit of the doubt and spelling out that the charges cover an enormous number of scenarios.

But absolutely all of those scenarios involve Him KNOWINGLY engaging in some form of child porn activity.

I honestly can't see a grey area here.


If you can convince me that this could happen to any one of us, then I'm snap logging off the internet for life.

i feel like youre polarizing pretty much everything i type so im not going to bother with nuances; if he's some cp baron, where is the jail time?

no seriously.

im hard pressed to call what landed on his wrist a slap even.