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    dallas to atlanta for $13M...

    very interesting...all the talk was the yankees were gonna get him..

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    Dallas was a loser in this whole thing.

    He took $5m less than he would have if he simply accepted the qualifying offer from Houston.

    He also could have signed a multiyear deal in the 2019 offseason which, while not as rich as he was hoping, would have locked him up for at least 3 years (maybe more) at some fairly good salary.

    Now he has to quickly get into pitching shape and perform well for the remainder of the 2019 season, or his market value will be far less.

    Basically, he lost in every way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Dallas was a loser in this whole thing.

    He took $5m less than he would have if he simply accepted the qualifying offer from Houston.

    He also could have signed a multiyear deal in the 2019 offseason which, while not as rich as he was hoping, would have locked him up for at least 3 years (maybe more) at some fairly good salary.

    Now he has to quickly get into pitching shape and perform well for the remainder of the 2019 season, or his market value will be far less.

    Basically, he lost in every way.
    agreed...that's a huge fucking bath there...think that $13M is what he is getting for the rest of the year, so prorated it's probably close to the Houston offer...but at a pitcher in your 30s you'd probably still have the 3-4/$60-70M locked up...

    we saw how this all worked out last year with the pitchers who signed late in the FA period and missed all of spring training...outside of arretia it wasn't fucking pretty...he's not only missed spring training, but 40% of the season...I don't see how this ends well...

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    Canít shake the notion of Atlanta Braves +2200 to win WS as a long shot.

    They have no prayer of beating any of the iron from the AL but the idea wonít go away.

    This isnít a Keuchel thing. Heís just an arm at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Canít shake the notion of Atlanta Braves +2200 to win WS as a long shot.

    They have no prayer of beating any of the iron from the AL but the idea wonít go away.

    This isnít a Keuchel thing. Heís just an arm at this point.
    I agree that Keuchel is just an arm, though he will benefit from pitching in the NL where there is no DH (a much bigger factor for non-elite pitchers than people realize) and where there are a lot of teams which can't hit.

    But yeah, his days as a front line playoff pitcher are probably over. Then again, look what switching teams did for Verlander. (Still pissed about that one... he WANTED to come to the Dodgers!)

    I agree the Braves have little chance to beat any of the top AL teams, but they also seem to get owned by the Dodgers lately. So even getting out of the NL seems like a problem.

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    Speaking of qualifying offers, I have egg on my face after saying in the offseason that the Dodgers were fools to offer the $17.9 million qualifying offer to Ryu (which was accepted).

    Oops.

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    In 1971 Mickey Lolich threw 376 innings. Ryu ain’t Lolich. He’s a fragile little Asian. 3 more innings and he miraculously surpasses his total innings for last year.

    You still have the “I told you so” rights. Don’t forfeit them quite yet.

    So, Dodgers are pretty damn exposed with Ryu and Bellinger.

    One pitch to Bellinger’s wrist or one back problem and it’s lights out for the offense. Don’t tell me how balanced you might think it is. Pitching decisions all flow from Bellinger. Everyone basks in his tall shadow.

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    read an article on the ringer about ATL signing dallas...its a 1 year/$20M deal prorated to $13M so he did better than taking the qualifying offer so to speak...

    still think at his age it's a huge gamble to gamble on a 4 month sprint with no real world training...don't give a shit how many simulated games and stuff you throw...you just aren't in the grind and routine of a season against big league hitters...

    he better be like harris in major league when he had all that shit on his body so he could lube up the ball to get it to dance...

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    Bumgarner is, like San said about Kuechel, just another arm at this point. Someone should tell him that after he whines at people watching their homers off him.

    Go dig it out of the ocean, as Muncy said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    Big Papi shot and in hospital in DR.


    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...lic/index.html
    Everyone gets the ESPN alert on their phones now.

    Alsooooo.... TMZ Sports is the go to resource for this kind of thing. They are amazing always.

    Looks more like a hit or a beef than a robbery. And yet ARod walks around unscathed like he owns the place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    Big Papi shot and in hospital in DR.


    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...lic/index.html
    Ha, I was going to just post this . Shot In a bar he is 43. Read somewhere that boston going to fly him in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gut View Post
    Bumgarner is, like San said about Kuechel, just another arm at this point. Someone should tell him that after he whines at people watching their homers off him.

    Go dig it out of the ocean, as Muncy said.
    People have already jumped on making "Go in the ocean and get it" shirts for Dodgers fans.

    That really was a monster HR, on a day when Bumgarner was otherwise killing it.

    I'll give it to Muncy, most of his HR are meaningful. He tends to hit them exactly when the Dodgers need them, rather than just padding a 9-0 lead.

    I was wondering if 2019 would be a fail for him, given his surprising breakout and unheralded prospect status, but it appears he's for real. He's been the clear 2nd best hitter for the Dodgers this year.

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    Ladies & Gentlemen, I give you Joe Kelly.



    Edit

    It occurs to me that Dodgers fans will think, “ha, Kelly is awful”.

    No, the Dodgers are awful. This is entirely the Dodgers thinking they are smarter. In fact, they have never had any clue about relief pitching. Perhaps they have been willfully negligent. Doesn’t matter. If I were to point to the singular reason the Dodgers have failed this century it’s relief pitching.

    April 2019 (nothings changed)
    The Dodgers have turned Joe Kelly into a completely different pitcher, and it's not working at all
    https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/t...orking-at-all/


    Kelly was always been thought to have potential. 7 or 8 years in - he is still failing.

    Keep trotting him out there you clueless bastards.

    The other relievers will be playing golf in October.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post

    Looks more like a hit or a beef than a robbery.
    Word in Boston is he might have been seeing a drug kingpin’s girlfriend.

    The observation was that you normally catch a beating for that - you don’t get assassinated.

    Maybe that’s just a Boston code and doesn’t apply down there.

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    Dodgers may lose Seager for two months with a hamstring injury. They are deep enough and good enough to absorb it but definitely hurts since he was just now coming back into form; he had been raking lately.

    San agree that Braves at 22 to 1 is great value but also agree the baby Braves are still 1-2 years away from being a real WS contender. Their youth needs some more playoff reps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheesfaced View Post
    Dodgers may lose Seager for two months with a hamstring injury. They are deep enough and good enough to absorb it but definitely hurts since he was just now coming back into form; he had been raking lately.

    San agree that Braves at 22 to 1 is great value but also agree the baby Braves are still 1-2 years away from being a real WS contender. Their youth needs some more playoff reps.
    Seager (8) has almost as many HR as Machado (10j & Tatis (8). Considering his physical issues that is a very credible performance.

    My Seager preseason fade was mostly a recovery reality check vs Dodgers hoopla & hype.
    MLB Season Props - Los Angeles Dodgers - C. Seager - Total HR 2019 Reg. Season - Under +24Ĺ Home Runs -115

    All my Kershaw fades were not kicked back “no action” . I thought he wasn’t on the active roster game 1. Kershaw fades are like an annuity. We have come to depend on this $

    Braves are now +1600 so that is already some tasty value. We will figure some hedge later.

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    The under 24.5 HR on Seager was a good bet, and now it's a great bet for obvious reasons. I figured it would take some time to shake off the rust. Bet would have been in danger if he stayed healthy, given his recent hot hitting, but of course injury chances are higher with a guy just coming off a year down from injury.

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    Now onto the curious case of Keston Hiura of the Brewers.

    He's a top prospect in their system, and he was unexpectedly promoted earlier this season.

    He hit .281 and 5 HR in just 17 games.

    OPS was .862.

    Successful start, right?

    Well, he was demoted to the minors on June 3.

    Why? It's not clear. Perhaps service time manipulation?

    In his place is the terribly slumping Travis Shaw, and the Brewers are definitely a contending team.

    So why are they knowingly playing Shaw over Hiura right now?

    BTW, in the meantime Hiura is killing it in the minors. He now has 15 HR in 45 games there.

    One theory is that the Brewers aren't completely done with Shaw, who hit 32 HR in 2018 and 31 in 2017. They demoted Hiura when Shaw came off the DL. However, Shaw is hitting just .167 so far this season, and it's strange that they are giving him such a long leash given their tough divisional race.

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