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    Ending Birthright Citizenship

    Hmm, so wonder if for babies for x time onward, or if a retro; tres interessant.
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    pour quoi vous interesse? bebe fievre?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by splitthis View Post
    Hmm, so wonder if for babies for x time onward, or if a retro; tres interessant.
    keep it, it's bad enough as it is

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    They have to go back.

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    I’m a supporter of the right in general. More so on fiscal issues than social ones. This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard of.

    Your mom makes it here - you born here - you are a citizen - end of story

    If you are a conservative and have been generally supportive of Trump this is an issue where you draw the line IMHO.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
    I’m a supporter of the right in general. More so on fiscal issues than social ones. This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard of.

    Your mom makes it here - you born here - you are a citizen - end of story

    If you are a conservative and have been generally supportive of Trump this is an issue where you draw the line IMHO.
    Any conservative who hasn’t already abandoned Trump over the shit he’s already pulled won’t likely even blink at this latest shenanigan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by splitthis View Post
    Hmm, so wonder if for babies for x time onward, or if a retro; tres interessant.
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    That's interesting another attack on Mexican kids in the name of white America, the first being child separation. hmmmm.
    Fuck no I'm voting for the most open border candidate possible and I'm not joking. Replacing the GOP is my only concern now.

    It's not to often people are open to changing parties but I've got enough facts that it's been happening.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MumblesBadly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
    I’m a supporter of the right in general. More so on fiscal issues than social ones. This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard of.

    Your mom makes it here - you born here - you are a citizen - end of story

    If you are a conservative and have been generally supportive of Trump this is an issue where you draw the line IMHO.
    Any conservative who hasn’t already abandoned Trump over the shit he’s already pulled won’t likely even blink at this latest shenanigan.
    hold on...is this a Trump thing? The biggest dunce to hold office and anyone considers it?

    BtW the Mueller investigations......there has to be something big or no investigative branch would give it this amount of time

     
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    Guys guys! The president told a lie!


    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/30/u...p_id=693823800

    We’re the only country in the world where a person comes in and has a baby, and the baby is essentially a citizen of the United States for 85 years, with all of those benefits,” Mr. Trump told Axios during an interview that was released in part on Tuesday, making a false claim. “It’s ridiculous. It’s ridiculous. And it has to end.”

    In fact, at least 30 other countries, including Canada, Mexico and many others in the Western Hemisphere, grant automatic birthright citizenship, according to a study by the Center for Immigration Studies, an organization that supports restricting immigration and whose work Mr. Trump’s advisers often cite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duped_samaritan View Post
    Guys guys! The president told a lie!


    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/30/u...p_id=693823800

    We’re the only country in the world where a person comes in and has a baby, and the baby is essentially a citizen of the United States for 85 years, with all of those benefits,” Mr. Trump told Axios during an interview that was released in part on Tuesday, making a false claim. “It’s ridiculous. It’s ridiculous. And it has to end.”

    In fact, at least 30 other countries, including Canada, Mexico and many others in the Western Hemisphere, grant automatic birthright citizenship, according to a study by the Center for Immigration Studies, an organization that supports restricting immigration and whose work Mr. Trump’s advisers often cite.
    I like the way they worded that to make it sound like most of Europe (many others in the Western Hemisphere) was included when no European country allows it. Very clever.

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    Well don't worry to much about immigration, Don Lemon reveals a much bigger threat.


    Mordechai lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Texter View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by duped_samaritan View Post
    Guys guys! The president told a lie!

    We’re the only country in the world where a person comes in and has a baby, and the baby is essentially a citizen of the United States for 85 years, with all of those benefits,” Mr. Trump told Axios during an interview that was released in part on Tuesday, making a false claim. “It’s ridiculous. It’s ridiculous. And it has to end.”

    In fact, at least 30 other countries, including Canada, Mexico and many others in the Western Hemisphere, grant automatic birthright citizenship, according to a study by the Center for Immigration Studies, an organization that supports restricting immigration and whose work Mr. Trump’s advisers often cite.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/30/u...p_id=693823800
    I like the way they worded that to make it sound like most of Europe (many others in the Western Hemisphere) was included when no European country allows it. Very clever.
    u dum

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    Countries Who Offer Birthright Citizenship
    1 Antigua and Barbuda
    2 Argentina
    3 Barbados
    4 Belize
    5 Bolivia
    6 Brazil
    7 Canada
    8 Chile
    9 Cuba
    10 Dominica
    11 Ecuador
    12 El Salvador
    13 Fiji
    14 Grenada
    15 Guatemala
    16 Guyana
    17 Honduras
    18 Jamaica
    19 Mexico
    20 Nicaragua
    21 Panama
    22 Paraguay
    23 Peru
    24 Saint Kitts and Nevis
    25 Saint Lucia
    26 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
    27 Trinidad and Tobago
    28 United States
    29 Uruguay
    30 Venezuela

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    Quote Originally Posted by MumblesBadly View Post
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    I’m a supporter of the right in general. More so on fiscal issues than social ones. This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard of.

    Your mom makes it here - you born here - you are a citizen - end of story

    If you are a conservative and have been generally supportive of Trump this is an issue where you draw the line IMHO.
    Any conservative who hasn’t already abandoned Trump over the shit he’s already pulled won’t likely even blink at this latest shenanigan.
    It’s Unconstitutional. End of story.

    You can support the tightening up the boarders and oppose ending birthright citizenship. Bravo for Paul Ryan for stepping up and opting the notion that this is even possible.

    Of course this is all mid term posturing at this point, but we shall see if he continues with this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texter View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by duped_samaritan View Post
    Guys guys! The president told a lie!


    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/30/u...p_id=693823800
    I like the way they worded that to make it sound like most of Europe (many others in the Western Hemisphere) was included when no European country allows it. Very clever.
    Except only idiots like Trump followers would interpret “Western HEMISPHERE” as equivalent to “most of Europe” given that even only two European countries (Ireland and Portugal) are west of the prime meridian to technically qualify as being in the Western Hemisphere.

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    Also, Western Hemisphere” is also used as a substitute for the “New World” to refer to countries in North and South America.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/West...re?wprov=sfti1
    In an attempt to define the Western Hemisphere as the parts of the world which are not part of the Old World, there also exist projections which use the 20th meridian west and the diametrically opposed 160th meridian east to define the hemisphere.[1] This projection excludes the European and African mainlands and a small portion of northeast Greenland, but includes more of eastern Russia and Oceania.

     
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    Uh you guys do know that this doesn't apply to only Mexicans?...right??...and here I was ascribing some intelligence to some libtards......speaking as a beaner that was a product of this, where theres a will theres a way....


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    - its in the constitution

    - like 30 other countries do it, its totally a normal thing
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    I understand the 14th amendment is key here...

    "All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside," the 1868 amendment begins.


    thus the requirements for citizenship are two: 1. born in the United States or naturalized; and 2. subject to the jurisdiction of the United State.

    A child of a person here temporarily because of tourism or illegal entry might not be considered subject to the jurisdiction of the US

    its up to the courts to decide...
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrenadaRoger View Post
    I understand the 14th amendment is key here...

    "All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside," the 1868 amendment begins.


    thus the requirements for citizenship are two: 1. born in the United States or naturalized; and 2. subject to the jurisdiction of the United State.

    A child of a person here temporarily because of tourism or illegal entry might not be considered subject to the jurisdiction of the US

    its up to the courts to decide...

    ted cruz can't be happy with this talk

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    Get rid of them all and build the wall. Bleeding heart libfucks. Round them up like wild horses and ship them all back. Anchor babies should be sent to orphanages in there parents countries.

    You people are so funny it hurts.

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