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    Concorde's failure and the reason it still takes a long time to fly places

    In 1972, when I was born, it took 5 hours to fly from LA to New York.

    In 2018, it takes... 5 hours.

    There's been zero progress on that front. Passenger planes are going the exact speed they did 50+ years ago.

    How, with all of the technological advances, have we not improved upon this?

    Here's an interesting video about the Concorde, which first flew in 1969, but carried passengers starting 1976. It went double the speed of traditional passenger planes, was able to outpace the earth's rotation, and created sonic booms due to going faster than the speed of sound.

    However, in 2003, all Concordes stopped operating permanently.




    If you don't feel like watching the video, here's what happened:

    - Cost. The Concordes were too costly to buy and maintain, and could only carry 120 passengers. This made ticket prices very expensive, and not accessible to the general public.

    - Comfort. The plane was quite narrow, as were the seats.

    - Only good for flights over ocean. Complaints about the sonic booms made the impractical for flying over land.

    - Safety. The tires were too easily punctured, which caused a crash were 113 died, including four on the ground. This killed the narrative that Concorde was one of the safest passenger planes, and between that and 9//11 (which occurred 14 months later), the writing was on the wall.




    Maybe one day faster air travel will return.

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    Great podcast had Concorde as the topic last week.

    https://www.stuffyoushouldknow.com/p...rde-worked.htm

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    Oddly enough, a couple days ago i was on a aviation binge.


    The highlight of that binge was the C5 Galaxy that hauls the POTUS's limo and security detail.
    All that work so trump can spew some bullshit or make odd gestures to Merkel, lol.
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    People just want inexpensive flight. As a rule, the public doesnt want to pay a premium for speed, comfort, safety.

    I just got off a Spirit A320. The interior was recently redone. The seats didn’t even recline. Minimalist exposed seat frame with a mesh where there used to be a pocket for your in flight magazine and barf bag.

    Just realized they deleted the barf bag expense.

    Our fine servicemen fly in similar style on military transport.

    But you know what? The wife bought the ticket based on price. Just like everyone else.

    Flying is the nut low.

     
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      MumblesBadly: Go first class or GTFO.

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    Haha. As if mumbles has ever flown in first. Back on your rig, winter’s coming.

     
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      Pooh: You got that right. Winter's coming biatch.

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    Sonic booms / end thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
    Haha. As if mumbles has ever flown in first. Back on your rig, winter’s coming.
    I’ve flown first class several times, a few on my own dime, once or twice with frequent flyer upgrades,, and a few when taking the annual Seven Stars trip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    People just want inexpensive flight. As a rule, the public doesnt want to pay a premium for speed, comfort, safety.

    I just got off a Spirit A320. The interior was recently redone. The seats didn’t even recline. Minimalist exposed seat frame with a mesh where there used to be a pocket for your in flight magazine and barf bag.

    Just realized they deleted the barf bag expense.

    Our fine servicemen fly in similar style on military transport.

    But you know what? The wife bought the ticket based on price. Just like everyone else.

    Flying is the nut low.
    id sooner suck a large black cock than ever fly spirit again

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MumblesBadly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
    Haha. As if mumbles has ever flown in first. Back on your rig, winter’s coming.
    I’ve flown first class several times, a few on my own dime, once or twice with frequent flyer upgrades,, and a few when taking the annual Seven Stars trip.
    now google what it's like to fly 1st class and come back and tell us all about it


    with links of course

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by big dick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MumblesBadly View Post

    I’ve flown first class several times, a few on my own dime, once or twice with frequent flyer upgrades,, and a few when taking the annual Seven Stars trip.
    now google what it's like to fly 1st class and come back and tell us all about it


    with links of course
    Gaze in amazement at the links I found...

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    there was a good documentary on cable some years back about the forensic investigation into the last concord crash that is an extremely bad thing to watch if your phobic about flying.

    shit gets funky out there.

     
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    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

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    Todd, Nova on PBS will be exploring the future of commercial supersonic flight.

    Starts airing tomorrow Oct. 24.

    preview
    https://www.pbssocal.org/programs/nova/flying-supersonic-preview-8fjk7d/

    Go fuck yourselves
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    there was a good documentary on cable some years back about the forensic investigation into the last concord crash that is an extremely bad thing to watch if your phobic about flying.

    shit gets funky out there.
    It is truly amazing to me that we don’t have at least one comercial aircraft go down a month.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    In 1972, when I was born, it took 5 hours to fly from LA to New York.

    In 2018, it takes... 5 hours.

    There's been zero progress on that front. Passenger planes are going the exact speed they did 50+ years ago.

    How, with all of the technological advances, have we not improved upon this?

    Here's an interesting video about the Concorde, which first flew in 1969, but carried passengers starting 1976. It went double the speed of traditional passenger planes, was able to outpace the earth's rotation, and created sonic booms due to going faster than the speed of sound.

    However, in 2003, all Concordes stopped operating permanently.




    If you don't feel like watching the video, here's what happened:

    - Cost. The Concordes were too costly to buy and maintain, and could only carry 120 passengers. This made ticket prices very expensive, and not accessible to the general public.

    - Comfort. The plane was quite narrow, as were the seats.

    - Only good for flights over ocean. Complaints about the sonic booms made the impractical for flying over land.

    - Safety. The tires were too easily punctured, which caused a crash were 113 died, including four on the ground. This killed the narrative that Concorde was one of the safest passenger planes, and between that and 9//11 (which occurred 14 months later), the writing was on the wall.




    Maybe one day faster air travel will return.
    You're saying their tires were part of the problem. They didn't need them for the supersonic stuff so why would they be a fly in the ointment?
    Noise is the biggest factor. Jet engines ain't that nice at any speed.
    Has anyone asked Elon?
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    btw has canada ever made a car

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    Quote Originally Posted by lol wow View Post
    btw has canada ever made a car
    DeLorean, we're better at skates
    and who makes cars anyway....we drive them

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    lol you make skates?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lol wow View Post
    lol you make skates?
    Only the lucky ones.....and curling stones

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    and -fin canada

     
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