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    AOC has just done something I actually agree with. She's called for Tibetan indepence and denounced China's treatment of the Uighers. Good for her. China is pissed about it to. Good. They've put out statements condemning her. Now we just need to get Hollywood and the NBA to stop sucking Chi-Comm dick.
    Good luck with that one. Don't forget, Lebron knows everything about racial relations in America but just.... isn't quite aware of what's going on over there.

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    so you are pro-private prison industry dwai? how do you feel about the war on drugs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nunbeater View Post
    so you are pro-private prison industry dwai? how do you feel about the war on drugs?
    war on drugs is fucked, just like the war on terror and war on covid.

    no I'm not for pro private prison, but I am for law and order.

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    Socialist AOC has two expensive apartments and drives a Tesla but lets her grandmother starve in Puerto Rico.
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    "Sleazy bimbo AOC strikes again"

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Socialist AOC has two expensive apartments and drives a Tesla but lets her grandmother starve in Puerto Rico.

    Props for calling her a socialist and not slutty former barmaid

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickeycrimm View Post
    Socialist AOC has two expensive apartments and drives a Tesla but lets her grandmother starve in Puerto Rico.
    Trying to make political theatre, AOC had been telling the world that Trump's policies had her grandmother living in poverty in Puerto Rico. But the whole thing has now backfired on AOC. It was pointed out how she had two expensive apartments and a brand new Tesla but let's her grandmother starve. Now, a GoFundMe was setup for her grandmother. 100K was raised in ten hours. But someone, whether it was AOC, her grandmother, or someone else in the family, has told GoFundMe they won't accept the money. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

    Now the dirty little secret. The GoFundMe was set up by comedian, actor, and also conservative Matt Walsh to get AOC's reaction to it. I figure she responded just the way he thought she would.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
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    so you are pro-private prison industry dwai? how do you feel about the war on drugs?
    war on drugs is fucked, just like the war on terror and war on covid.

    no I'm not for pro private prison, but I am for law and order.
    hey man,

    the problem with law and order folks is that they want to create crime where there is none, like with drugs. that basically feeds into the private prison industry & of course the regular prison industry. I get that you hate the blacks because they bang your wife or whatever but even with your law and order tendencies do you really wanna see a bunch of black dudes in prison for non-violent drug crimes? because that is what "law and order" get you

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    Quote Originally Posted by nunbeater View Post
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    war on drugs is fucked, just like the war on terror and war on covid.

    no I'm not for pro private prison, but I am for law and order.
    hey man,

    the problem with law and order folks is that they want to create crime where there is none, like with drugs. that basically feeds into the private prison industry & of course the regular prison industry. I get that you hate the blacks because they bang your wife or whatever but even with your law and order tendencies do you really wanna see a bunch of black dudes in prison for non-violent drug crimes? because that is what "law and order" get you
    don't hate black people, if you do the crime you do the time.

    I'm not talking about a guy smoking a doobie, talking about meth pushers and cartel types, what's your solution? just decriminalization of all drugs? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
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    hey man,

    the problem with law and order folks is that they want to create crime where there is none, like with drugs. that basically feeds into the private prison industry & of course the regular prison industry. I get that you hate the blacks because they bang your wife or whatever but even with your law and order tendencies do you really wanna see a bunch of black dudes in prison for non-violent drug crimes? because that is what "law and order" get you
    don't hate black people, if you do the crime you do the time.

    I'm not talking about a guy smoking a doobie, talking about meth pushers and cartel types, what's your solution? just decriminalization of all drugs? lol
    actually yes. look at what happened with alcohol and prohibition, as soon as it was legalized there was no money to be made in it. no mob money at least.

    Take it out of the black market, let people live their lives how they want to. I mean do you not have a problem with govt deciding what you can cannot put into your body>

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    Quote Originally Posted by nunbeater View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
    don't hate black people, if you do the crime you do the time.

    I'm not talking about a guy smoking a doobie, talking about meth pushers and cartel types, what's your solution? just decriminalization of all drugs? lol
    actually yes. look at what happened with alcohol and prohibition, as soon as it was legalized there was no money to be made in it. no mob money at least.

    Take it out of the black market, let people live their lives how they want to. I mean do you not have a problem with govt deciding what you can cannot put into your body>
    I can agree somewhat to what you're saying but there still has to be a sense of law, we can't just have a lawless society

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
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    actually yes. look at what happened with alcohol and prohibition, as soon as it was legalized there was no money to be made in it. no mob money at least.

    Take it out of the black market, let people live their lives how they want to. I mean do you not have a problem with govt deciding what you can cannot put into your body>
    I can agree somewhat to what you're saying but there still has to be a sense of law, we can't just have a lawless society
    who said anything about lawless society? I think if a crime doesn't have a victim than it shouldn't be classified as a crime. I think we should legalize & regulate all drugs like we do with alcohol. fun fact, there are companies in the US right legit making cocaine because it is needed as a base in many medical drugs like lidocain/novocaine/etc, we already have the framework and by taking drugs off the table we can utilize our police to solve all of them unsolved murders and do actual police work

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    Quote Originally Posted by nunbeater View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
    I can agree somewhat to what you're saying but there still has to be a sense of law, we can't just have a lawless society
    who said anything about lawless society? I think if a crime doesn't have a victim than it shouldn't be classified as a crime. I think we should legalize & regulate all drugs like we do with alcohol. fun fact, there are companies in the US right legit making cocaine because it is needed as a base in many medical drugs like lidocain/novocaine/etc, we already have the framework and by taking drugs off the table we can utilize our police to solve all of them unsolved murders and do actual police work
    I can get on board with this obviously, but more government regulations is a lot of headache but yes I agree police should be doing actual crime solving and less bullshit ticketing and arresting

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nunbeater View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dwai View Post
    I can agree somewhat to what you're saying but there still has to be a sense of law, we can't just have a lawless society
    who said anything about lawless society? I think if a crime doesn't have a victim than it shouldn't be classified as a crime. I think we should legalize & regulate all drugs like we do with alcohol. fun fact, there are companies in the US right legit making cocaine because it is needed as a base in many medical drugs like lidocain/novocaine/etc, we already have the framework and by taking drugs off the table we can utilize our police to solve all of them unsolved murders and do actual police work
    There is somewhat of a legitimate argument for marijuana legalization, because pot itself doesn't cause severe harmful addiction issues where people need to be hospitalized or put in rehab.

    There is not a good argument for full recreational drug legalization, for various reasons:

    1) It will then become the public's responsibliity to deal with addicts who cannot afford treatment

    2) These drugs are far more harmful than marijuana

    3) Some of these drugs cause people to do crazy things and commit violent crime, thus harming others


    However, I would be for treatment of illegal drugs the same way they treat unlicensed/offshore online gambling -- illegal to offer, legal to use. This way you wouldn't see people arrested/prosecuted for possession of a personal amount of illegal drugs, but you would see drug dealers prosecuted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    who said anything about lawless society? I think if a crime doesn't have a victim than it shouldn't be classified as a crime. I think we should legalize & regulate all drugs like we do with alcohol. fun fact, there are companies in the US right legit making cocaine because it is needed as a base in many medical drugs like lidocain/novocaine/etc, we already have the framework and by taking drugs off the table we can utilize our police to solve all of them unsolved murders and do actual police work
    There is somewhat of a legitimate argument for marijuana legalization, because pot itself doesn't cause severe harmful addiction issues where people need to be hospitalized or put in rehab.

    There is not a good argument for full recreational drug legalization, for various reasons:

    1) It will then become the public's responsibliity to deal with addicts who cannot afford treatment

    right, so instead we are paying to incarcerate these people. and they still need treatment. remove the illegalities and now they don't have to worry about going to get help to kick their addiction

    2) These drugs are far more harmful than marijuana

    which drugs? how are they far more harmful? I would never encourage anyone to use cocaine but at the end of the day I could give a fuck if someone else is, any risks they take are their own. but if you add up all the ODs from illegal drugs they are absolutely dwarfed by aspirin. Alcohol, etc. To me that shit is far more harmful but legal for some reason. Most of the addicts biggest victims are themselves. Is there collateral damage like kids that are not taken care of families in turmoil and such? Yes, but we have the same thing with alcohol and no one is trying to throw deadbeat alcoholic dads in jail for drinking.

    3) Some of these drugs cause people to do crazy things and commit violent crime, thus harming others

    OK so I hear this argument a lot and it is really a non-issue as far as I can tell. Why? Well, think of the untold millions of people that did drugs and then never attacked or robbed anyone while they were on those drugs. People that commit violent crime are going to commit violent crime regardless of whether they are on drugs or not, drugs aren't a magical switch that turns everyone into a bloodthirsty junkie. but here is the crazy thing: if someone is on drugs and, for example, murders someone, then you charge them with murder. Most of the harms from drugs happens to the people doing them.


    However, I would be for treatment of illegal drugs the same way they treat unlicensed/offshore online gambling -- illegal to offer, legal to use. This way you wouldn't see people arrested/prosecuted for possession of a personal amount of illegal drugs, but you would see drug dealers prosecuted.

    Fully legalized and regulated, which is what is happening with marijuana, would be the best route. Why? If it is illegal to offer that is still putting people at risk, I am sure you have heard of people overdosing on Fentanyl because they thought it was heroin and took too much. Well if drugs were legal and regulated you would be able to get your H or coke or whatevs and you would know for a fucking fact that it was safe and pure. And one of the issues that you have with people robbing other people to get money for drugs, well if it were legal and regulated then the shit would be so much cheaper that they wouldn't need to rob people. Although to be fair that's another falsehood; if someone was gonna rob you for drug money they were gonna rob you for any money.
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    nunbeater:

    There is no question that people are more likely to commit bad crimes while high on hard drugs, because they simply aren't thinking straight. This differs from pot, where people develop more of a mellow/tired feeling, but aren't more likely to exhibit violent criminal behavior than when sober. I'm sure you've seen those videos where police are trying to deal with a violent criminal high on something, and there's absolutely no reasoning with them or calming them down. Often it ends tragically, with the person seriously hurt or killed when they simply can't be apprehended peacefully.

    I'm not making the argument that hard drugs cause people to become violent criminals. I'm arguing that some people become crazy, irrational, or easily brought to a violent/aggressive satte, and that it's far more likely for someone on hard drugs to commit acts of violence than someone who is sober (or even drunk/stoned).

    When you legalize something, you both put the government's stamp of legitiamacy on it, and you make it far easier to obtain. It's easy to forget this when you have a peer group which does a lot of drugs (as we definitely have in poker). The average American can't easily obtain something like cocaine. I'm not saying it's impossible, but the average person can't just abruptly decide to try cocaine and quickly get some. Additionally, other factors such as the illegality and the fear of dealing with drug dealers also would keep some would-be-cocaine-users away from it, as opposed to if it were legal.

    Now, if someone has their heart set upon trying cocaine, they can make it happen. And if you have friends who openly do coke, sure you can easily get it. But the average American doesn't fit into either of these categories.

    We should not be legalizing dangerous, highly addictive hard drugs. I am all far decriminalizing the purchase and possession of small amounts, but not a full legalization/regulation to where anyone can buy them if they feel like it. That's just creating a ton of new addicts we otherwise wouldn't have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    nunbeater:

    There is no question that people are more likely to commit bad crimes while high on hard drugs, because they simply aren't thinking straight. This differs from pot, where people develop more of a mellow/tired feeling, but aren't more likely to exhibit violent criminal behavior than when sober. I'm sure you've seen those videos where police are trying to deal with a violent criminal high on something, and there's absolutely no reasoning with them or calming them down. Often it ends tragically, with the person seriously hurt or killed when they simply can't be apprehended peacefully.

    I'm not making the argument that hard drugs cause people to become violent criminals. I'm arguing that some people become crazy, irrational, or easily brought to a violent/aggressive satte, and that it's far more likely for someone on hard drugs to commit acts of violence than someone who is sober (or even drunk/stoned).

    When you legalize something, you both put the government's stamp of legitiamacy on it, and you make it far easier to obtain. It's easy to forget this when you have a peer group which does a lot of drugs (as we definitely have in poker). The average American can't easily obtain something like cocaine. I'm not saying it's impossible, but the average person can't just abruptly decide to try cocaine and quickly get some. Additionally, other factors such as the illegality and the fear of dealing with drug dealers also would keep some would-be-cocaine-users away from it, as opposed to if it were legal.

    Now, if someone has their heart set upon trying cocaine, they can make it happen. And if you have friends who openly do coke, sure you can easily get it. But the average American doesn't fit into either of these categories.

    We should not be legalizing dangerous, highly addictive hard drugs. I am all far decriminalizing the purchase and possession of small amounts, but not a full legalization/regulation to where anyone can buy them if they feel like it. That's just creating a ton of new addicts we otherwise wouldn't have.
    you realize that all evidence points to the opposite conclusion. in countries with legalization/decriminalization rate of hard drug use actually goes down. and if someone wants to do it at least they will get something safe from a lab and not boiled in gasoline or whatever the fuck they do in colombia.

    if we're talking about people in a crazy irrational state then the real convo needs to be about alcohol. seriously I have never seen something flip the switch as hard as alcohol.

    and legalizing it doesn't mean the govt approves or disapproves. it means that we as a society decided that the punishment far outweighs the crime. which it does. like people get sent to live in 8 by 8 cells for long periods of time because of fucking drugs. that's fucking insanity to me

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    PCP and stimulants have some iffy scenarios. Opiates and some benzos drop inhibitions to levels where people just don't care anymore.

    Less so when they are legal and still nothing compared to alcohol.

    As is the decriminalization model still means that every tax payers is funding the clean up. Full legalization moves most of the costs to non problematic users.

    There is no +EV drug policy. The best policies just cost the least.

    The current model in US costs the most and does nothing to decrease use or increase the safety of drugs.

    Illegal drugs are roughly the 3rd biggest commodity in global trade. Doesn't seem like a really good idea to let criminals control that.

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