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    I just don’t think it’s as complex and nuanced as you project it to be.

    Trump proves that was the case

    I just don’t know what AOC’s shelf life will be these days. More than 15 mins but less than Dwight Eisenhower

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    You keep thinking features when it’s all about styling and marketing.

    My wife knows who AOC is and follows celebrity but doesn’t have the first clue or interest in her politics. Welcome to actual America.

    The Russians didn’t put Trump in the White House. The WWE watching, Facebook posting, Apprentice viewing, NY Post reading Americans did.

    You are missing the macro. It’s a repeatable model.

    Anyone got Trump wrestling Vince McMahon clip?



    i love you but this is sloppy and formulaic and wreaks of the same fringe/conspiracy fever that created the alt-right in the first place.
    Does his theory require more conspiracy theory or does yours?

    And strangely I agree with both of you.

    Isn’t it best to view Russia as some technologically advanced super PAC with their own fantastic intelligence capabilities?

    I don’t think it has to be Russia had no influence at all or Trump is a Manchurian candidate. That feels too black or white.

    Can’t Putin simply know this guy is crooked and has done a lot of shady money laundering with his oligarchs in the past and figure he’s way easier to deal with and lobby than Hillary would be?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
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    i love you but this is sloppy and formulaic and wreaks of the same fringe/conspiracy fever that created the alt-right in the first place.
    Does his theory require more conspiracy theory or does yours?

    And strangely I agree with both of you.

    Isn’t it best to view Russia as some technologically advanced super PAC with their own fantastic intelligence capabilities?

    I don’t think it has to be Russia had no influence at all or Trump is a Manchurian candidate. That feels too black or white.

    Can’t Putin simply know this guy is crooked and has done a lot of shady money laundering with his oligarchs in the past and figure he’s way easier to deal with and lobby than Hillary would be?

    im not sure how me saying the dems are airing out AOC before the right gets the chance has anything at all to do with trump, sal's wife, russia, or cambridge analytic.

    i am quite sure that any attempt to include those banner points in my narrative, much less rely on them as a rebuttal, is pure uncut 201 proof Name:  tumblr_o16n2kBlpX1ta3qyvo1_1280.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post

    You keep thinking features when it’s all about styling and marketing.

    My wife knows who AOC is and follows celebrity but doesn’t have the first clue or interest in her politics. Welcome to actual America.

    The Russians didn’t put Trump in the White House. The WWE watching, Facebook posting, Apprentice viewing, NY Post reading Americans did.

    You are missing the macro. It’s a repeatable model.

    Anyone got Trump wrestling Vince McMahon clip?

    i love you but this is sloppy and formulaic and wreaks of the same fringe/conspiracy fever that created the alt-right in the first place.
    I think sanlmar is trying to say that the average american voter is an idiot and surely he has a point there.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
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    i love you but this is sloppy and formulaic and wreaks of the same fringe/conspiracy fever that created the alt-right in the first place.
    I think sanlmar is trying to say that the average american voter is an idiot and surely he has a point there.

    my apologies, appears i overthought your response sanlmar.
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    "Legitimized by the presence of members of Congress there" is a very misleading statement.

    The members of Congress cannot take the words back out of Jerry Fallwell Jr's mouth after he says them.

    Only a moron would watch that video and believe it was a threat to shoot AOC. It was one of those "cold dead hands" type of statements people have been making for years when they feel the government is going to come to their home and forcefully take something of theirs.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    Last week the reports were that AOC was with someone eating a burger. Over the weekend, the reports were that AOC opts to travel locally in gas guzzling vehicles instead of using the bus or subway.

    Now the campaign finance story.

    I cant figure out who's coming out with the sharper knives - all of the Dems, some of the Dems, or the Repubs?

    I mean, the dems cant afford for AOC to essentially become the face of the left and then ignore all the shit thats going to get her thoroughly pilloried by the right. There is no future in that and its basically one of the cardinal sins they committed with Hildawg.


    Who do you believe gives the dems their best chance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
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    I mean, the dems cant afford for AOC to essentially become the face of the left and then ignore all the shit thats going to get her thoroughly pilloried by the right. There is no future in that and its basically one of the cardinal sins they committed with Hildawg.


    Who do you believe gives the dems their best chance?

    bernie's brand isnt compelling and when he calls trump a fucking fraud to his face its going to look like he's an unstable crank.

    biden would absolutely curbstomp trump in debates and frankly i think thats where this election gets won/lost, so honestly i think biden is probably the strongest play for the dnc. plus hes a white male and thats not going to scare the shit out of anyone, which is nice.

    like honestly when biden gets red in the face and says in an obviously affected southern drawl "you're no president and you're no role model, you're a liar and a criminal and a goddamned disgrace" its going to land. really, really hard.

    and without that sort of confrontation, delivered with that sort of elegant, refined fury, its 4 more years of trump. like all day.

     
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    Hey, look, sonatine is making yet another condescending remark underestimating the genius of our President with his classic snarky passive aggressive shit take.....lol.....

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    Who do you believe gives the dems their best chance?

    bernie's brand isnt compelling and when he calls trump a fucking fraud to his face its going to look like he's an unstable crank.

    biden would absolutely curbstomp trump in debates and frankly i think thats where this election gets won/lost, so honestly i think biden is probably the strongest play for the dnc. plus hes a white male and thats not going to scare the shit out of anyone, which is nice.

    like honestly when biden gets red in the face and says in an obviously affected southern drawl "you're no president and you're no role model, you're a liar and a criminal and a goddamned disgrace" its going to land. really, really hard.

    and without that sort of confrontation, delivered with that sort of elegant, refined fury, its 4 more years of trump. like all day.
    I think leftist identity politics have really put the Democratic Party in a bind. There are a lot of necessary minority votes that probably won't vote for a white male simply because they are a white male. So basically they are bigots.

    However, if they go the minority route they have to be careful not to pick someone that isn't too "woke," or too associated with the radical left portion of the party, as nothing will turn white people who aren't radical leftists onto Trump faster than someone who preaches leftist bigoted identity politics, ala AOC.

    I think what is going to happen during the election cycle is that AOC is going to tweet her usual bigoted stuff, and the right wing media is going to link whoever the candidate is to her, and they are going to be stuck between a rock and a hard place, where they are going to have to walk the tight rope of not repudiating her and angering the radical left but also distancing themself to appeal to moderate white Democrats.

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    oh wow weird verminaard made a post about 'leftist identity politics'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    oh wow weird verminaard made a post about 'leftist identity politics'.
    He did. It is a delicate tightrope that any Democratic candidate is going to have to walk. And unless AOC turns down the rhetoric, she is going to be used against whatever candidate ultimately runs. Fair or not, the right wing media is going to tie the candidate to her, and they are going to have to force to comment on the toxic stuff she tweets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verminaard View Post
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    bernie's brand isnt compelling and when he calls trump a fucking fraud to his face its going to look like he's an unstable crank.

    biden would absolutely curbstomp trump in debates and frankly i think thats where this election gets won/lost, so honestly i think biden is probably the strongest play for the dnc. plus hes a white male and thats not going to scare the shit out of anyone, which is nice.

    like honestly when biden gets red in the face and says in an obviously affected southern drawl "you're no president and you're no role model, you're a liar and a criminal and a goddamned disgrace" its going to land. really, really hard.

    and without that sort of confrontation, delivered with that sort of elegant, refined fury, its 4 more years of trump. like all day.
    I think leftist identity politics have really put the Democratic Party in a bind. There are a lot of necessary minority votes that probably won't vote for a white male simply because they are a white male. So basically they are bigots.

    However, if they go the minority route they have to be careful not to pick someone that isn't too "woke," or too associated with the radical left portion of the party, as nothing will turn white people who aren't radical leftists onto Trump faster than someone who preaches leftist bigoted identity politics, ala AOC.

    I think what is going to happen during the election cycle is that AOC is going to tweet her usual bigoted stuff, and the right wing media is going to link whoever the candidate is to her, and they are going to be stuck between a rock and a hard place, where they are going to have to walk the tight rope of not repudiating her and angering the radical left but also distancing themself to appeal to moderate white Democrats.
    Maybe a treasonous convicted felon will be enough

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by verminaard View Post
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    oh wow weird verminaard made a post about 'leftist identity politics'.
    He did. It is a delicate tightrope that any Democratic candidate is going to have to walk. And unless AOC turns down the rhetoric, she is going to be used against whatever candidate ultimately runs. Fair or not, the right wing media is going to tie the candidate to her, and they are going to have to force to comment on the toxic stuff she tweets.
    It’s the same tightrope that needs to be walked on the right. Any adults in the room that have a shot at being elected are going to have to run to the way left to win the Primary and then dash back towards the middle to win in the general. This primary is gong to be very interesting.

    The only one of them who can get away with starting towards the middle and not budging is Biden. He’s the only one with enough experience to tell the rest of the field to simmer down with the socialist shit we have a general to win, and get away with it.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    "Legitimized by the presence of members of Congress there" is a very misleading statement.

    The members of Congress cannot take the words back out of Jerry Fallwell Jr's mouth after he says them.

    Only a moron would watch that video and believe it was a threat to shoot AOC. It was one of those "cold dead hands" type of statements people have been making for years when they feel the government is going to come to their home and forcefully take something of theirs.
    People are impressionable as fuck and most don't have the capacity to take things as figuratively as you do. That was definitely an explain like I'm a 6th grader level threat.

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    Also, AOC we need more yoga on Instagram please...

     
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