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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    3 things:

    1. Ban the mumblesfuck from this thread.
    2. She's literally the Trump version of the far left.
    3. However her staff is gave her a good list of questions to ask and she surprisingly did well... ish.

    Bonus: ban mumblesfuck.
    I agree. Most of the time she's saying something smart, asking good questions, or posting a witty tweet, it's her handlers doing it for her.

    Count on it.

    BTW, I'm not saying this because she's female and on the left. For example, I believe that both Elizabeth Warren and Hillary Clinton are very smart women, despite my distaste for them.

    AOC just isn't very bright or informed.
    It is probably fair to say she is average for a Democrat congress person, but well above average compared to Republicans, and she is much more bright and informed than at least the last 4 Republican presidents.

    Notice you compared her to 2 well known Democrat politicians. It would be a lot harder to find Republican politicians to compare her to to disparage her.

     
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    AOC creates her own straw man arguments ALLLLL the time bud, it's almost like she's some 30 year old chick from the bar or something
    Ok. Caleb appears to have hard-on for AOC or he's paid to have one. The latter isn't a conspiracy, it's what he does for a living. He has tweeted to her almost daily for far longer than i bothered to look up.

    I don't actually know if he's in your camp with Trump. He retweets stuff from both sides of the right. Strongest opinion he has given that criticizes right in the last month was laughing at Alex Jones. Otherwise he makes sure not to anger any of the factions. I'd guess he prefers to keep all potential customers.

    I do love how people are chosen to be credible on subjects you agree with them and non-credible in everything else.

    Also 30 year old chick from the bar bad, senile real estate developer good, because reasons. Makes moves to clean the swamp bad, says he will clean the swamp good, because reasons. And my favorite, fresh view from outside of normal politics bad, fresh view from outside of normal politics good, because reasons.

    I actually like AOC cuz she causes trouble, but ppl seriously thinking she's a good leader and presidential material makes me want to leaving las vegas nic cage myself. Let her cause trouble in Congress for a few years then retire and raise family

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    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...jr-gotcha-fail

    Lol she's not dumb tho according to the libtards here looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesidedish View Post
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    Ok. Caleb appears to have hard-on for AOC or he's paid to have one. The latter isn't a conspiracy, it's what he does for a living. He has tweeted to her almost daily for far longer than i bothered to look up.

    I don't actually know if he's in your camp with Trump. He retweets stuff from both sides of the right. Strongest opinion he has given that criticizes right in the last month was laughing at Alex Jones. Otherwise he makes sure not to anger any of the factions. I'd guess he prefers to keep all potential customers.

    I do love how people are chosen to be credible on subjects you agree with them and non-credible in everything else.

    Also 30 year old chick from the bar bad, senile real estate developer good, because reasons. Makes moves to clean the swamp bad, says he will clean the swamp good, because reasons. And my favorite, fresh view from outside of normal politics bad, fresh view from outside of normal politics good, because reasons.

    I actually like AOC cuz she causes trouble, but ppl seriously thinking she's a good leader and presidential material makes me want to leaving las vegas nic cage myself. Let her cause trouble in Congress for a few years then retire and raise family
    President issue is 4 years down the line. She's been in politics for 2 months in any official capacity. She's is a strong bet for rookie of the year, but that's about it.

    Dunno if you can make bets for 24, but that would be the only reason to care how fit she is now (and where she is in 4 years).

    She still needs the DNC more than they need her (not necessarily true in 4 years). Same wasn't true of Trump and RNC.

     
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    Actually a truthful statement...



    ...unlike the zerohedge article, but who's counting.

    She's describing what happened at the hearing.

    This is what zerohedge said...

    "she tweeted fake news about Donald Trump Jr. being the "second executive involved in criminal conspiracy"

    ...and that would be something that never happened. There's a distinction because, if there wasn't, it would be impossible to describe what liars said truthfully.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmick View Post
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    I actually like AOC cuz she causes trouble, but ppl seriously thinking she's a good leader and presidential material makes me want to leaving las vegas nic cage myself. Let her cause trouble in Congress for a few years then retire and raise family
    President issue is 4 years down the line. She's been in politics for 2 months in any official capacity. She's is a strong bet for rookie of the year, but that's about it.

    Dunno if you can make bets for 24, but that would be the only reason to care how fit she is now (and where she is in 4 years).

    She still needs the DNC more than they need her (not necessarily true in 4 years). Same wasn't true of Trump and RNC.

    Except my fellow citizens think she is fit right now. If she was in the polls for the 2020 dem primary she would be top 3 and within a few points of the leader if not actually leading

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    She would be leading on the coasts ... she would get absolutely smashed in the general

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesidedish View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by gimmick View Post

    President issue is 4 years down the line. She's been in politics for 2 months in any official capacity. She's is a strong bet for rookie of the year, but that's about it.

    Dunno if you can make bets for 24, but that would be the only reason to care how fit she is now (and where she is in 4 years).

    She still needs the DNC more than they need her (not necessarily true in 4 years). Same wasn't true of Trump and RNC.

    Except my fellow citizens think she is fit right now. If she was in the polls for the 2020 dem primary she would be top 3 and within a few points of the leader if not actually leading
    Obv. She must be doing something right, when half a year ago no one had heard of her. I'm mostly just thinking it doesn't matter that much where she is now since she can't run yet. As aggressively she's playing she's crowned mother earth in 4 years or she's lost all her credibility and no one even remembers her.

    The least likely scenario in 4 years would be her being somewhere in the middle. Not really relevant, but not completely forgotten.

     
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    Dear Sah_24 how bout you return back to your lane. Some miserable corner of earth where no one can see you. Reserve your toxicity to your usual adversaries. The 12 year olds you keep pwning in League.

    Oh and if anyone cares Arthur Schwartz tweet is the one zerohedge should have latched on to...



    ...and run with. That way they don't have to lie and they make her look just as bad. But since zerohedge mostly employs mouthbreathers they didn't. To their defense they only cater to other mouthbreathers. So it doesn't really matter at all.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesidedish View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by gimmick View Post

    President issue is 4 years down the line. She's been in politics for 2 months in any official capacity. She's is a strong bet for rookie of the year, but that's about it.

    Dunno if you can make bets for 24, but that would be the only reason to care how fit she is now (and where she is in 4 years).

    She still needs the DNC more than they need her (not necessarily true in 4 years). Same wasn't true of Trump and RNC.

    Except my fellow citizens think she is fit right now. If she was in the polls for the 2020 dem primary she would be top 3 and within a few points of the leader if not actually leading
    a diehard trump supporter challenging the fitness of someone running for president.

    we are literally living in the matrix

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    https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1101223632360083456

    and more proof she is not that bright ...

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    The earliest she could possibly run for president is 2028; she's only 29. Which is light years away, and not even worth speculating on in 2019.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
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    Except my fellow citizens think she is fit right now. If she was in the polls for the 2020 dem primary she would be top 3 and within a few points of the leader if not actually leading
    a diehard trump supporter challenging the fitness of someone running for president.

    we are literally living in the matrix
    Trump has been dominating for decades, AOC was in the bar a year ago dressing for tips. Saying she's presidential material is more embarassing than saying I am

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmick View Post
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    I agree. Most of the time she's saying something smart, asking good questions, or posting a witty tweet, it's her handlers doing it for her.

    Count on it.

    BTW, I'm not saying this because she's female and on the left. For example, I believe that both Elizabeth Warren and Hillary Clinton are very smart women, despite my distaste for them.

    AOC just isn't very bright or informed.
    You wouldn't happen to have any proof about her handlers?

    I'm kinda interested in how long this has been going on.

    Like did she have handlers in 2007 when she placed second in a global science competition and had a asteroid named after her by MIT? Oh and i know, second place. What a dummy.

    Or did she have handlers guiding her trough Boston University where she graduated cum laude in 2011? It's one of the easier ones, right?

    Or did they switch her at some point with this stupid one? Did they do it before or after she was elected? Did the Dems figure out that a socialist platform is the magic bullet for a campaign? Or was everything that happened in her life just dumb luck before the election?

    Also who the fuck pays for her handlers? Is it the same people that are doing their best to fuck over Bernie? That's kinda weird thing to do. Trying to stack the deck in favor of centrist candidates while building a far left monolith for the future.
    How do you explain all the really boneheaded gaffes?

    I don't mean accidental misspeaking, which will occur when you make enough public speeches.

    I'm talking about going to interviews and saying things like, "The reason unemployment seems low is because everyone has two jobs" -- and really believing that's how unemployment numbers work.

    So either she's not very bright, or she's painfully uninformed, even for someone in their late 20s.

    Either way, she seems to be repeatedly humiliating herself.

    The left loves to accuse Republicans of casting her as stupid because she's a female socialist of color, but how come they didn't try to assert Hillary Clinton was stupid? Lots of (mostly true) bad things were said about Hillary, but stupid wasn't one of them. How come only AOC is getting this rap?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    You wouldn't happen to have any proof about her handlers?

    I'm kinda interested in how long this has been going on.

    Like did she have handlers in 2007 when she placed second in a global science competition and had a asteroid named after her by MIT? Oh and i know, second place. What a dummy.

    Or did she have handlers guiding her trough Boston University where she graduated cum laude in 2011? It's one of the easier ones, right?

    Or did they switch her at some point with this stupid one? Did they do it before or after she was elected? Did the Dems figure out that a socialist platform is the magic bullet for a campaign? Or was everything that happened in her life just dumb luck before the election?

    Also who the fuck pays for her handlers? Is it the same people that are doing their best to fuck over Bernie? That's kinda weird thing to do. Trying to stack the deck in favor of centrist candidates while building a far left monolith for the future.
    How do you explain all the really boneheaded gaffes?

    I don't mean accidental misspeaking, which will occur when you make enough public speeches.

    I'm talking about going to interviews and saying things like, "The reason unemployment seems low is because everyone has two jobs" -- and really believing that's how unemployment numbers work.

    So either she's not very bright, or she's painfully uninformed, even for someone in their late 20s.

    Either way, she seems to be repeatedly humiliating herself.

    The left loves to accuse Republicans of casting her as stupid because she's a female socialist of color, but how come they didn't try to assert Hillary Clinton was stupid? Lots of (mostly true) bad things were said about Hillary, but stupid wasn't one of them. How come only AOC is getting this rap?
    So the proof about those handlers?

    Oh and literally everybody will say stupid things. Misconceptions, not really thinking things through, fatigue and the 100 other reasons. Smart people aren't immune to this. They just aren't affected as often as stupid people.

    They process information faster and they correct previous misconceptions more often.

    The right has more than a play in their playbook. They started of with the stupid angle with AOC and now they are stuck with it. They had other angles for Hillary. You might have heard some of those or they got drowned by "lock her up" chants.

    If the logic for AOC was a female socialist of color, how would that apply to Hillary? Is she secretly a socialist of color? Or should we expect the stupid angle if the person hits 1 out of three? I really don't know how you expect this to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheesfaced View Post
    The earliest she could possibly run for president is 2028; she's only 29. Which is light years away, and not even worth speculating on in 2019.
    The 35 is for inauguration. She's eligible for 2024. But yea i don't think even that's worth speculating for a few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    I agree. Most of the time she's saying something smart, asking good questions, or posting a witty tweet, it's her handlers doing it for her.
    Someone needs to start an anti-AOC, choice-center-like cult and let Todd run the poker room and really stick it to Galfond.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmick View Post
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    How do you explain all the really boneheaded gaffes?

    I don't mean accidental misspeaking, which will occur when you make enough public speeches.

    I'm talking about going to interviews and saying things like, "The reason unemployment seems low is because everyone has two jobs" -- and really believing that's how unemployment numbers work.

    So either she's not very bright, or she's painfully uninformed, even for someone in their late 20s.

    Either way, she seems to be repeatedly humiliating herself.

    The left loves to accuse Republicans of casting her as stupid because she's a female socialist of color, but how come they didn't try to assert Hillary Clinton was stupid? Lots of (mostly true) bad things were said about Hillary, but stupid wasn't one of them. How come only AOC is getting this rap?
    So the proof about those handlers?

    Oh and literally everybody will say stupid things. Misconceptions, not really thinking things through, fatigue and the 100 other reasons. Smart people aren't immune to this. They just aren't affected as often as stupid people.

    They process information faster and they correct previous misconceptions more often.

    The right has more than a play in their playbook. They started of with the stupid angle with AOC and now they are stuck with it. They had other angles for Hillary. You might have heard some of those or they got drowned by "lock her up" chants.

    If the logic for AOC was a female socialist of color, how would that apply to Hillary? Is she secretly a socialist of color? Or should we expect the stupid angle if the person hits 1 out of three? I really don't know how you expect this to work.
    I never claimed to have "proof" of any handlers. It's my theory. But if you think a new, inexperienced, influential, rapidly-rising figure in the Democratic Party is doing this all on her own, then you don't understand American politics very well.

    AOC doesn't just make one or two accidental gaffes. It seems that one comes out every time she speaks. And we're not talking about misspoken words or poorly phrased answers. We're talking about concepts which are dead wrong.

    She really once made the point that people dying early from lack of health care is costing America extra because "funerals cost a lot of money".

    You know, because avoiding death early means nobody's going to ever have to pay for your funeral.

    I could sit down and make a huge list of these if I've wanted, and she's only been in the spotlight for a fairly short time. We're not talking about digging 30 years back and finding a few really dumb statements.

    And then of course there was the infamous Amazon "3 billion" comments, which I know you rambled for 4 pages back and forth about with blake.

    The problem is that the American left so badly wants a young, female, socialist political star of color, and they were so enthralled by her upset primary victory, that they found themselves pot committed to her by the time it came out that she really has no clue what she's talking about.

    This circles back to the "handlers" thing I was talking about. It's very possible that people behind the scenes who want to see her succeed are preparing her with opportunities to look good/smart/informed, so those appearances can drown out the stupid stuff.

    The denial by some on the left (including you, who isn't even American) regarding AOC's ignorance is similar to the denial I saw during the 2016 election regarding Hillary's shadiness.

    The funny thing is that the right isn't the same way. Look at how Trump supporters talk about him. Very few deny that he has personality flaws, is a narcissist, says foolish things, and acts un-Presidential at times. Instead, they acknowledge these faults, and then counter with greater positives they perceive about him.

    The left is too busy making a saint out of whichever politician they're trying to drum up support for at the moment, and that's a big mistake. People aren't that stupid.

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    Also LOL @ the SJWs in this thread who think that people like me criticize AOC because she's an outspoken female of color.

    It's actually the opposite. These people seem to believe that you're a sexist or racist if you dare criticize anyone who happens to be female or non-white.

    I think you guys know that, in a race between a black lesbian Republican and a white, hetereosexual Jewish male Democrat, I would vote for the black lesbian.

    So none of this is about AOC's gender or race.

    This is about a rising star in the Democratic Party with extreme (at least by American standards) proposals, and a surprisingly poor grasp of basic policy and economic matters.

    These are criticisms of policy and ignorance, not of race or gender.

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    So no proof. None whatsoever.

    How did you explain her being one of 15000 individuals that have an asteroid named after them? Is it in the same place where we can find how she graduated cum laude? Latter was just from majoring in international relations and economics. Nothing prestigious or relevant to politics like computer science.

    I didn't say anything why i think why you believe whatever about her. You said the part about female socialist of color. It's not a bad strawman, but i think you can do better.

    I only mentioned that because you seem to think it somehow ties her to Hillary. In case you forgot this is what you said...

    "The left loves to accuse Republicans of casting her as stupid because she's a female socialist of color, but how come they didn't try to assert Hillary Clinton was stupid?"

    ...and that sentence really doesn't make sense unless Hillary is also a female socialist of color. Considering you're always right and only stupid people say stupid things i guess she must be. Glad we got to the bottom of this.

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