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    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

    Why are so many Democrats excited about her?

    She's like the left's answer to Sarah Palin.




    After hitting the interview circuit, it became painfully clear that she has no idea what the fuck she's talking about.

    Plus, she's a self-identified socialist, and that's the last label Democrats should want for themselves if they're looking to win blue-collar America back.


    And now she's excluding the media from town hall events.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/18/polit...all/index.html






    I'm hoping and praying that Democrats decide to hitch their wagons to this woman going forward.


    And perhaps worst of all, Scott Seiver has a huge thing for her.


     
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    She's not owned by special interests, I still haven't listened to her speak.

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    Democrats *need* young and Progressive candidates to rally the disenchanted American voters who are sick of being stuck with (1) a terribly expensive healthcare system that Obamacare only scratched the surface to reform, and which the GOP wants to pertuate absent the restrictions of insurance companies making as much money as possible off the public and the subsidies for lower income citizens that Obamacare put in place , and (2) the now-historically high cost of secondary education for middle class and below citizens in the post World War II era given how states have essentially abandoned making a 4-year degree at a decent state university affordable a huge swath of their residents.

    In fact, I am laughing st how much Fox News and right-wingers are going after AOC, trying paint her as crazy socialist even though her position on these two issues are favored by a majority of voters. I see the right-wings full-throated attacks on her like when the Catholic Church publicly calling for a ban on movies it believes are “blasphemous”; it’s strong public criticism brings attention to those movies, spurring more to want to see what is so supposedly awful about.

    So AOC and campaign staff are probably elated over the attention right-wing media is bringing to her candidacy. To which they are probaly collectively doing something like this:



    So, on behalf of her and her campaign, let me extend the following to Druff for starting this thread:

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    Health Care . LMAO!!!!


    You know who gets free health care for life?

    Gookie

    Why?

    Cause I served this great country.

    You know who has the opportunity to serve? Pretty much anyone with a pulse.

    Fucking freeloaders

    Give us Free health care , Give us free housing , Give us free food, Take from the working class and give us free money.

    You left libs make me fucking puke .

    Oh and who would be the first people you would want protection from god forbid this country ever got attacked?

    That right the military and police the very same people you try and tear down everyday.

    Hypocrisy at it's finest

     
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    Is she calling herself a socialist? I thought she considered herself a democratic socialist. There's a difference.

    Anyway socialism has become more popular in America due to the same forces that elected Trump.

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    Might as well get use to TRUMP

    He isn't going anywhere for SIX more years

    Fight the good fight. You all got what you deserve. Now go cry while my man just GRABS THE PUSSY!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hongkonger View Post
    Is she calling herself a socialist? I thought she considered herself a democratic socialist. There's a difference.
    Meagan Day, a Democratic Socialist and writer for the socialist magazine Jacobin writes:

    "I’m a staff writer at the socialist magazine Jacobin and a member of DSA, and here’s the truth: In the long run, democratic socialists want to end capitalism. And we want to do that by pursuing a reform agenda today in an effort to revive a politics focused on class hierarchy and inequality in the United States. The eventual goal is to transform the world to promote everyone’s needs rather than to produce massive profits for a small handful of citizens."

    “Social democratic reforms like Medicare-for-all are, in the eyes of DSA, part of the long, uneven process of building that support, and eventually overthrowing capitalism.”

    https://www.vox.com/first-person/201...sm-jacobin-dsa

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    if we were gonna end up with socialism in the west it would have happened years ago

    sure things like affordable healthcare and education will defo get votes but once you start ranting about ending capitalism forget it thats gonna lose you way more votes than you gain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gookieheimowitz View Post
    Health Care . LMAO!!!!


    You know who gets free health care for life?

    Gookie

    Why?

    Cause I served this great country.

    You know who has the opportunity to serve? Pretty much anyone with a pulse.

    Fucking freeloaders

    Give us Free health care , Give us free housing , Give us free food, Take from the working class and give us free money.

    You left libs make me fucking puke .

    Oh and who would be the first people you would want protection from god forbid this country ever got attacked?

    That right the military and police the very same people you try and tear down everyday.

    Hypocrisy at it's finest
    Freeloaders my ass. People who work and pay taxes are not freeloaders. And contrary to your slurs, most people do work and pay taxes. The working class is taxed about the same as in other countries but the rich are taxed far less. As a result the US is the only wealthy country that doesn't guarantee health care and where college education is so expensive as to be unobtainable for many without a mountain of debt. Why can every other country do this but America can't? Let me let you in on a little secret:

     
    America is a scam

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    Quote Originally Posted by hongkonger View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gookieheimowitz View Post
    Health Care . LMAO!!!!


    You know who gets free health care for life?

    Gookie

    Why?

    Cause I served this great country.

    You know who has the opportunity to serve? Pretty much anyone with a pulse.

    Fucking freeloaders

    Give us Free health care , Give us free housing , Give us free food, Take from the working class and give us free money.

    You left libs make me fucking puke .

    Oh and who would be the first people you would want protection from god forbid this country ever got attacked?

    That right the military and police the very same people you try and tear down everyday.

    Hypocrisy at it's finest
    Freeloaders my ass. People who work and pay taxes are not freeloaders. And contrary to your slurs, most people do work and pay taxes. The working class is taxed about the same as in other countries but the rich are taxed far less. As a result the US is the only wealthy country that doesn't guarantee health care and where college education is so expensive as to be unobtainable for many without a mountain of debt. Why can every other country do this but America can't? Let me let you in on a little secret:

     
    America is a scam

    Then Get the Fuck Out.

    Scam . Lol

    Freedom ain't FREE . Idiots

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    Quote Originally Posted by hongkonger View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gookieheimowitz View Post
    Health Care . LMAO!!!!


    You know who gets free health care for life?

    Gookie

    Why?

    Cause I served this great country.

    You know who has the opportunity to serve? Pretty much anyone with a pulse.

    Fucking freeloaders

    Give us Free health care , Give us free housing , Give us free food, Take from the working class and give us free money.

    You left libs make me fucking puke .

    Oh and who would be the first people you would want protection from god forbid this country ever got attacked?

    That right the military and police the very same people you try and tear down everyday.

    Hypocrisy at it's finest
    Freeloaders my ass. People who work and pay taxes are not freeloaders. And contrary to your slurs, most people do work and pay taxes. The working class is taxed about the same as in other countries but the rich are taxed far less. As a result the US is the only wealthy country that doesn't guarantee health care and where college education is so expensive as to be unobtainable for many without a mountain of debt. Why can every other country do this but America can't? Let me let you in on a little secret:

     
    America is a scam

    Disagree. Most in NY went for free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gookieheimowitz View Post
    Health Care . LMAO!!!!


    You know who gets free health care for life?

    Gookie

    Why?

    Cause I served this great country.

    You know who has the opportunity to serve? Pretty much anyone with a pulse.

    Fucking freeloaders

    Give us Free health care , Give us free housing , Give us free food, Take from the working class and give us free money.

    You left libs make me fucking puke .

    Oh and who would be the first people you would want protection from god forbid this country ever got attacked?

    That right the military and police the very same people you try and tear down everyday.

    Hypocrisy at it's finest
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    Even though this is the single largest “aid” package in US history—and worthy in its own right for that fact alone, never mind that it is going to state which has formally declared itself for Jews-only—the Jewish lobby controlled media in America has hushed it up completely.

    According to a statement issued by Alison Weir, head of the If Americans Knew organization, “while Israeli media reported on the aid to Israel, no U.S. media reports on the military bill seem to have mentioned the allocation to Israel.

    “For example, an in depth PBS examination of the bill mentions aid to Ukraine, which gets a fraction of the amount to Israel, but fails to mention the money to Israel,” Weir continued.

    “A separate bill, “The United States-Israel Security Assistance Authorization Act of 2018,” has passed the Senate and is now awaiting full House approval. In the House the bill number is H.R.5141 and in the Senate it is S.2497).
    The same Oligarchs who robbed the former Soviet Union, different tactic.

    We're $20 trillion in debt and gutting everything in order to give away BILLIONS AND BILLIONS AND BILLIONS to some rogue terrorist state. We have to pay this back plus interest WTF.

    THIS IS A FUCKING ROBBERY!
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    Even though this is the single largest “aid” package in US history—and worthy in its own right for that fact alone, never mind that it is going to state which has formally declared itself for Jews-only—the Jewish lobby controlled media in America has hushed it up completely.

    According to a statement issued by Alison Weir, head of the If Americans Knew organization, “while Israeli media reported on the aid to Israel, no U.S. media reports on the military bill seem to have mentioned the allocation to Israel.

    “For example, an in depth PBS examination of the bill mentions aid to Ukraine, which gets a fraction of the amount to Israel, but fails to mention the money to Israel,” Weir continued.

    “A separate bill, “The United States-Israel Security Assistance Authorization Act of 2018,” has passed the Senate and is now awaiting full House approval. In the House the bill number is H.R.5141 and in the Senate it is S.2497).
    The same Oligarchs who robbed the former Soviet Union, different tactic.

    We're $20 trillion in debt and gutting everything in order to give away BILLIONS AND BILLIONS AND BILLIONS to some rogue terrorist state. We have to pay this back plus interest WTF.

    THIS IS A FUCKING ROBBERY!



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    She's not owned by special interests, I still haven't listened to her speak.






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    there just arent a lot of young centerests or right wingers coming up the ranks.

    which is pretty much exactly what you can expect when concepts like retirement and home ownership are mathematically impossible even if you somehow remove student loan debt from the table.

    her crowd knows they are fucked and the election of trump proved to them that radical change is possible if enough people sign off on it,

    and unfortunately for the right wing AND centerist left, they arent offering solutions to actual middle class problems. these kids openly embracing socialism are the logical retort.

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    THE DREAM OF RETIRING IN A SCORPION INFESTED HOME IS DEAD

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    I'd donate money to her campaign to watch Shapiro destroy her in a debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Why are so many Democrats excited about her?
    Because Trump has made them fucking crazy.


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Why are so many Democrats excited about her?

    ….she's a self-identified socialist, and that's the last label Democrats should want for themselves if they're looking to win blue-collar America back.

    Druff, instead of sneering at socialism try to understand the appeal of someone like O'CrazyO besides the obvious ethnic/racial reasons

    here is the key to understanding: capitalism as practiced in the United States has resulted in no real income growth for the 99%ers over the last 50 years (1973 onward) with all real growth going to the 1%

    so socialism/or socialism inspired modifications to capitalism are gaining ground amongst the young... capitalism has it's flaws: concentration of income & political influence into a small group, exploitation of the environment, pursuit of profits leads to imperialism...and these flaws are nothing new--Marx wrote about them nearly 180 years ago

    btw, Great Britain also suffers with no real income growth for the 99%ers, but there the no growth phenom has gone on for only the last 15 years or so

    Dems like O'Crazy-o talk of wealth redistribution via guaranteed income, free college and medicare for all, while Republican Trumpers talk of protectionist tariffs to bring back jobs out-sourced to foreign countries and controlling immigration to lower tax burden & reduce competition in labor markets...both movement stem from a rejection of the bullshit fed the American public over the last 50 years about the benefits of trickle down economics and competition free of government oversight.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrenadaRoger View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Why are so many Democrats excited about her?

    ….she's a self-identified socialist, and that's the last label Democrats should want for themselves if they're looking to win blue-collar America back.

    Druff, instead of sneering at socialism try to understand the appeal of someone like O'CrazyO besides the obvious ethnic/racial reasons

    here is the key to understanding: capitalism as practiced in the United States has resulted in no real income growth for the 99%ers over the last 50 years (1973 onward) with all real growth going to the 1%

    so socialism/or socialism inspired modifications to capitalism are gaining ground amongst the young... capitalism has it's flaws: concentration of income & political influence into a small group, exploitation of the environment, pursuit of profits leads to imperialism...and these flaws are nothing new--Marx wrote about them nearly 180 years ago

    btw, Great Britain also suffers with no real income growth for the 99%ers, but there the no growth phenom has gone on for only the last 15 years or so

    Dems like O'Crazy-o talk of wealth redistribution via guaranteed income, free college and medicare for all, while Republican Trumpers talk of protectionist tariffs to bring back jobs out-sourced to foreign countries and controlling immigration to lower tax burden & reduce competition in labor markets...both movement stem from a rejection of the bullshit fed the American public over the last 50 years about the benefits of trickle down economics and competition free of government oversight.
    Here is a hint, bc when the gov't starts bailing out private enterprise you probably don't have capitalism ... luls

     
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