Just had my first Carl's Jr. and it was really good. But I've made burgers every bit as good or similar
at some mom and pop shop. Point being you can only do so much with ground beef and all the extras.

Unless you're marinating them in cocaine or heroin it's just bullshit. Yes you can get a bad burger
six ways till sunset but you can only get so good.

My daughter was in L.A. recently. Tried the In and Out. "yeah it was good"
that's it