Try a therapist.
The GAD is likely exacerbating things, and most medicines only offer temporary reprieve.
Try a therapist.
The GAD is likely exacerbating things, and most medicines only offer temporary reprieve.
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in fairness, he'd probably take the actual recommended doses, not 20x recommended doses.Originally Posted by Kuntmissioner
What I would highly recommend you start if you are seriously consider going the cannabis route is start off with a 50/50 THC/CBD vape.
I would recommend is the Stiiizy Mango vape. Good stuff and very easy to find in Southern California dispensaries. Also they are lab tested and have been very transparent with their products
https://stiiizy.com/pages/products
Also do some research on strains. Leafly is great for strain info.
https://www.leafly.com/start-exploring
Also Weedmaps is where you want to go regarding where to find dispensaries and their strains. Plus we all know you like to find a good deal and they do list prices.
https://weedmaps.com/
Like yourself I was apprehensive about going the cannabis route as I have had some horrible experiences during high school and college. The key this is dosing. It is so much easier to dose with a vape rather than smoking flower. Plus you can bring your vape anywhere and you can be discreet.
i think you should man up and drop acid.
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Oh, 100% the GAD is worsening everything.
I have seen a psychiatrist but I have stated that I don't want to go on the SSRI or SNRI medication at this time. Tried for one day and couldn't stand it. Would rather have the anxiety. Besides, I've read countless SSRI/SNRI horror stories where, even when the anxiety is cured, they turn people into emotionless robots or leave them with a permanent feeling of malaise. And then getting off them is tough. And then there's the matter of not being able to figure out which one works for you, if any, and it taking 2-8 hellish weeks of side effects to figure it out for each one. And then there's the erectile dysfunction, which was far more fucking disturbing to have than I thought it would be (and this was just for one day!)
If there were an easier fix to GAD, I would totally treat it with medication. But I've decided that the cure is worse than the disease, at least for right now. I'm still hoping that maybe the GAD fades when the LPR gets under control. I had a 4-day period a few weeks ago where the GAD almost vanished, but then it returned.
I have no idea why it seems to improve and worsen, almost randomly. This past week it's been higher, which is frustrating.
With that said, the LPR isn't just anxiety.
Unfortunately, some dismissive ENT doctors think that. I've gone to two so far -- one who diagnosed it as LPR and was reasonable, but he was also old and too "by the numbers" for my taste (at least when it comes to a poorly understood syndrome like LPR). That is, he told me to take Nexium and stop eating acidic food, and claimed it would be better in 2-4 weeks, which is totally untrue for a high percentage of LPR cases (including mine).
The second ENT doc was ready to go home when I saw him at 4:40pm on a Friday, acted annoyed from jump street, and insisted that it was "all anxiety", and that there was nothing wrong with me.
That's complete BS, because there's no way voice hoarseness can be anxiety, as that's a physical symptom, and I get that (which I didn't before all this started).
In reality, this is 50% anxiety and 50% some real physical cause which has irritated my throat and voice box. I do believe that lower anxiety would make me less sensitive to the sensation in my throat, but it would still be there, as would the hoarseness.
I've been on antidepressants for about two years, tried a few before I found one that worked for me. Never had any "hellish" side effects and I can get my dick hard anytime. I am an emotionless robot though.
One other problem with the anxiety is it seems to have heightened my physical sensitivity to side effects.
Prior to all of this showing up in mid-August, I could take most medications and not even notice the side effects. Vicodin was a good example. While others deal with dizziness, drowsiness, and other unpleasant side effects from Vicodin, I never have. I would just take it (occasionally, only when needed), the pain would improve, and I'd have no negative effects from the medication.
Since this has all shown up, even medications or supplements with known mild side effects seem to get me, especially ones which are stimulants (even mild), as those increase my anxiety.
Some might be what's known as the "nocebo effect" (suffering side effects you expect to happen, due to imagining you have them), but a lot is real, as sometimes I'll feel a side effect, then look it up later and see that indeed that was one of the common ones listed.
Were you always an emotionless robot? Or only since you started the antidepressants?
See, I don't want that. I'd rather deal with the anxiety and all the crappy stuff that comes with it.
Regarding your dick getting hard, are you saying that never happened, even at the beginning?
If so, you're lucky. Some guys avoid that side effect, but most don't.
Some guys do find the ability to get it up after 1-2 weeks on the medication, while others never recover that ability unless they either pop Viagra or get off the medication.
Again, that's something I really don't want, and in fact experiencing it for just one day freaked me out and gave me even more anxiety (even though I knew why it was happening).
Maybe one day in the future, I'll lose the ability to get it up anyway, and this will be a non-issue. But right now I don't have that problem at all, so sudden impotence is very unnerving.
Pretty much have always been.
Edit: never had any erectile problems, YET. I am getting older though. (33)
the above is only making things worseFor those saying, "A lot of this problem is between your ears", well yes, it is. I thought we already established that.
you are a control freak, you want to always try to find the answer yourself
most doctors internally facepalm every time they hear a patient talk to them about what they found on webMD
you can't control everything - and although not all doctors are great, you have to at least admit they have much greater knowledge than you do after a few days researching online
tl;dr quit thinking you've learned more on the internet than doctors have with a decade+ of education - let go and let doctor
Hi Lew!!!
Def give the weed a try IMO
Just start with low dosages if you go with edible. If an hour goes by and you feel nothing eat more
I just know from my own experience anytime I have any type of stress or major anxiety, edibles or smoking levels me
I'm willing to revisit the CBD thing.
I tried one brand of pure CBD, a Charlotte's Web version, and it did little to help the anxiety, but made me tired and gave me diarrhea. These are both known CBD side effects, and I wasn't expecting them, so it wasn't the nocebo effect.
However, I've heard that the quality/makeup of CBD oil differs from brand to brand, and I have another brand I haven't tried yet.
While many recommend pure CBD (no THC) for anxiety, I've seen other recommendations for CBD with a small amount of THC. It seems generally agreed in the information I've read that too much THC (i.e. more than a little) will make the anxiety worse.
I am willing to try one with a small amount of THC, even though it could backfire and give me a temporarily higher anxiety.
One other concern with CBD was the fact that I had some spiked ALT and AST liver values on a blood test shortly after taking the CBD oil. However, in blood tests before the CBD and weeks later after I stopped taking it, the ALT/AST were normal. There seems to be some concern about CBD and liver damage, though some studies claim CBD helps with liver disease, rather than causes/harms it. CBD is a vast unknown at the moment, and unregulated, so there's some concern there.
If all versions of CBD make me lethargic and gives me diarrhea, then I don't want it, even if it does help with the anxiety.
If any of you beat generalized anxiety disorder, please let me know in PM or in this thread. I know each person is different when it comes to psychiatry, but I'm always open to hearing what has worked for people.
LOL! I’m old enough to be your father, and some! And have yet to have a problem in that area. But I did go through a hellish midlife crisis awhile back in which I got super depressed and anxious about how I was going to spend the rest of my life. Eventually, I found trucking — and, of course, PFA — and now I’m as contented as a bug in a rug.Pretty much have always been.
Edit: never had any erectile problems, YET. I am getting older though. (33)
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Missed this one but not a terrible idea
Don't people treat anxiety and all kinds of PTS with Ayahuasca and magic mushrooms etc....
Missed this one but not a terrible idea
Don't people treat anxiety and all kinds of PTS with Ayahuasca and magic mushrooms etc....
Why do u guys blue ball is several times with saying Brandon will do a show and it’s been a fail? He’s done it one time with a bunch of annoying ass clowns. He did into the night with Drex years ago at the end of donkdown, an ambien laced show, and i still listen to a replay it was so good. For some reason he and trader don’t when there is best time than ever right now?
Psychiatrist seems reasonable. Namely for finding medication that works for you. I assume you're not really interested in random hippy therapy that's also prescribed for GAD treatment.
With psychiatrist you need to find one that's tolerable, you don't need perfect and you can't bail instantly after the first failed drug experiment. There's a huge amount of trial and error involved in finding what works.
SSRIs are usually the first thing that's tried out. Mostly because lack of abuse potential and being generally well tolerated without too many serious side-effects (excluding mild suicide). They all do roughly the same, so the idea is to just find one that has tolerable side-effects.
SNRIs come after that. Less sexual dysfunction if that's a concern. There are also drugs that can be used to specifically combat that while taking SSRIs/SNRIs. Class of drugs called Azapirones that can also be used on their own for GAD.
If none of that works, you might be prescribed Pregabalin or Seroquel. Possibly some other drugs from their relative families are also used, but those are the most common ones. Both of them work almost instantly. They aren't first line choices because Seroquel causes heavy drowsiness and Pregabalin has a huge abuse potential.
Regarding finding how any drug is "reviewed" by the general public it's good to remember that people love to tell negative shit for anything they have to take therapeutically and love to hype whatever they choose to take recreationally.
Thing with GAD is that even though you cure whatever triggered it, it is now in your arsenal of reasonable coping mechanisms. So it's likely a bad idea to just focus on LPR and assume GAD goes away with it. It's not really how it works.
One way to think of anxiety is as a threshold. Below a certain point there is only positive anxiety that gets people to do shit and take whatever seriously. Above that threshold is negative anxiety, overreacting and producing certain processes at inappropriate times (Such as fight or flight).
Because you're very close to the threshold even small increases will make you feel significantly worse. As long as you stay below your mind will handle it just fine, but once you go over small increases have exponential effect. There's also a snowball effect where your anxiety is making you more anxious.
Not that long story short, how you feel and handle anxiety isn't linear. That's why mild side-effects are getting to you now.
There's no real cure for GAD. You can only manage it. People that tell you there's a cure are usually trying to sell you something. You can definitely keep it asymptomatic and non impairing, but it requires lifestyle changes and constant work or medication. That's likely because most things involved in it are otherwise useful in small doses and at appropriate times (stress, anxiety, fight or flight etc.).
It's not known how to just fix directly the mechanisms that affect people with GAD. Atm it's just kinda shotgunning in that direction and if it works, great. It's either slowing down bunch of brain chemicals, making you feel better through serotonin/endorphins, avoiding anything that speeds the system and/or limiting stressful events. Several ways to do all of those. You just pick the ones you like the most. The work part is finding it out. Theory has always been easy.
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