Originally Posted by
Gookieheimowitz
So I've always been a believer that we never went to the moon. So I ask PFA to give me undeniable evidence that we where there.
Many people share my belief and a ton of the N.A.S.A photos have been proven to be staged. Myself use logic and reason much more childish I suppose .
Here is a sample of why I think the moon landings where staged .
1. I'm to believe that in the 1960's we shot men to the moon and landed them on the moon and returned them safey to earth. Yet in the 1980's and 90's we had four Space Shuttles that where for orbit only and two of them crashed and burned . One on take off and the other on reentry. Explain to me how that happens ?
2. In the 1960's I'm to believe that audio and video where transmitted from the lunar surface yet when I drive from Vegas to Reno past Indian springs I lose cell phone service for 180 miles? So we can transmit clearly from the moon in the 60's but in the year 2018 I can't get a fucking cell phone to work in the desert.
I'll spare the other thought but yeah I'm convinced it never happened.
#1, you're talking about different animals completely. The leap from a purpose built disposable system to be launched to the moon and return astronauts and payload to earth and never get used again, to a vehicle to _repeatedly_ launch, orbit, deploy, construct, and dock to/from a freakin space station, land on a freakin runway and be launched again is mind boggling. I can't directly debunk your argument, but that's my armchair opinion.
For #2, you're dealing completely with something called Line of Sight. Cell phone signals are bounced around to and from towers on the surface of the earth. Typically they install them as high as the terrain will allow, and you'll usually find towers on high points of land, and even skyscrapers in cities for this reason. The radio signals are only as good as long as transmitter and receiver have a direct line of sight between them, and buildings, terrain and eventually the horizon will prevent the signal from traveling further, resulting in a loss of signal. There are ways and situations where radio waves from transmitters and towers can travel beyond the horizon but it's completely dependent on the frequency, the atmosphere, weather, time of year, etc etc etc. For terrestrial cell phones though, it's essentially line of sight to the nearest tower and that's it.
In the desert, your phone doesn't always have line of sight to the tower. Cell companies can't afford to put towers everywhere, so they often share. Even then, cost and infrastructure such as access to power (these things require a decent amount of power to work right), land leases, construction costs due to site access, etc prevent a company from just throwing a cell tower on every mountaintop. Cell companies can't afford to launch a network of geosynchronous satellites yet, otherwise that would be the ultimate answer to your desert reception problem. Besides, there are already Satellite Phones that literally always have service no matter where in the world you are, but they're extremely expensive to operate.
Even in the 50's and 60's, we had direct line of sight to the moon, and it's not at all difficult to get a radio signal to and from the moon. Hell, there are amateur operators that bounce signals off the moon to communicate with each other.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth-..._communication
Gonna have to come up with a more convincing argument I'm afraid.
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