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    The Card Counter (fall 2021 movie)




    I want this to be good, but it looks like it's going to be awful.

    Also... how does card counting relate to poker?

    Looks like the writers are confused.

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    Unlikely that you can make a movie that realistically portrays the life of a full time counter and is also exciting to the mass market moviegoer. It's a grind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    Unlikely that you can make a movie that realistically portrays the life of a full time counter and is also exciting to the mass market moviegoer. It's a grind.

    its extremely doable.

    if any producers out there want a spec script, ping me.

    looking at you in particular jamie gold.

     
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    I liked Schrader's early films Hardcore, American Gigolo and Light Sleeper. I liked him more when he shot on film. His old films had grime and grit. They felt part of a tough and unforgiving reality. The Card Counter looks a little too bright and clear visually. Like HD video.

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    Based on the romantic leads, dessetrunner will be first in line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post



    I want this to be good, but it looks like it's going to be awful.

    Also... how does card counting relate to poker?

    Looks like the writers are confused.
    It’s truly strange.

    For some reason, I get this feeling that Ivey’s edge sorting story has some relevance.

    Either some script about poker couldn’t get made, and they saw Ivey story and it was interesting, so they threw that angle in there and got it made by people who don’t realize how incoherent the idea is, or someone just read his story and wrote a script not grasping that it was a marriage of two disciplines that have nothing to do with each other.

    I’m not saying it has anything to do with edge sorting as that makes for a boring movie, but just his story making headlines everywhere put a bad idea into someone’s head about trying to combine great poker player with advantage play and most people have heard of card counting, so we get this.

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    Movie looks like it has too much going on....card counting, poker, romance, some sort of revenge on willem Defoe who seems to have tortured people in the military....does the guy have OCD with those sheets....?

    Hope it turns out good but the romance angle seems forced as they don’t have much chemistry and the females haircut is shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    Unlikely that you can make a movie that realistically portrays the life of a full time counter and is also exciting to the mass market moviegoer. It's a grind.

    its extremely doable.

    if any producers out there want a spec script, ping me.

    looking at you in particular jamie gold.
    Yeah I heard he has all kinds of spare cash to commit to projects like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post



    I want this to be good, but it looks like it's going to be awful.

    Also... how does card counting relate to poker?

    Looks like the writers are confused.
    I saw the extended trailer. It’s hard to judge but I do believe the main character is shown playing BJ as a card counter then moves to Poker. I doubt they would make such a blatant mistake of combining a blackjack concept with poker. I hope I’m right. Seeing how the man named Scorsese is involved as EP I can’t see him allowing such a mistake to occur either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post


    its extremely doable.

    if any producers out there want a spec script, ping me.

    looking at you in particular jamie gold.
    Yeah I heard he has all kinds of spare cash to commit to projects like this.

    coge but hes essentially a middle man at this point. like i dont know if things have changed radically since but last time he put feelers out for scripts he was flat buss and hosting like, riverboat poker rooms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post



    I want this to be good, but it looks like it's going to be awful.

    Also... how does card counting relate to poker?

    Looks like the writers are confused.
    Just checked the trailer you posted the official one on YouTube look at it around :30 it shows a brief shot of him playing Blackjack and again 10-15 sec later. When Haddish asks him about him counting cards it’s when it shows blackjack so it does appear that the card counting is attributed proper in the trailer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    Yeah I heard he has all kinds of spare cash to commit to projects like this.

    coge but hes essentially a middle man at this point. like i dont know if things have changed radically since but last time he put feelers out for scripts he was flat buss and hosting like, riverboat poker rooms.
    That’s also the last I heard of him. Wasn’t he the celebrity of a 1/2 game or something?

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    Druff any stories of going on card counting trips? Would you be staying at hotels? Or local joints so just drive from home? Ever work with anybody else?

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    I want this to be good, but it looks like it's going to be awful.

    Also... how does card counting relate to poker?

    Looks like the writers are confused.
    I saw the extended trailer. It’s hard to judge but I do believe the main character is shown playing BJ as a card counter then moves to Poker. I doubt they would make such a blatant mistake of combining a blackjack concept with poker. I hope I’m right. Seeing how the man named Scorsese is involved as EP I can’t see him allowing such a mistake to occur either.
    Isn’t that what Druff did, albeit he was counting cards for YEARS before someone convinced him to give poker a shot?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MumblesBadly View Post
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    I saw the extended trailer. It’s hard to judge but I do believe the main character is shown playing BJ as a card counter then moves to Poker. I doubt they would make such a blatant mistake of combining a blackjack concept with poker. I hope I’m right. Seeing how the man named Scorsese is involved as EP I can’t see him allowing such a mistake to occur either.
    Isn’t that what Druff did, albeit he was counting cards for YEARS before someone convinced him to give poker a shot?
    The point he’s making is that there’s no way to count cards in most poker games. Though in stud you need to remember the cards that were face up before being folded.

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    Everyone hates this movie. It's criticized as being boring, slow, pointless, and basically terrible in every way.

    Also I guess the gambling stuff sucks, too.

    Can't say I'm surprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    Everyone hates this movie. It's criticized as being boring, slow, pointless, and basically terrible in every way.

    Also I guess the gambling stuff sucks, too.

    Can't say I'm surprised.
    Intriguing. When did you watch it?

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    Everyone hates this movie. It's criticized as being boring, slow, pointless, and basically terrible in every way.

    Also I guess the gambling stuff sucks, too.

    Can't say I'm surprised.
    Intriguing. When did you watch it?
    I didn't. Every person in poker and gambling social media who has watched it says it sucks. And not just from the technical standpoint of the gambling. They just hate it in every way.

    From the trailer, the whole thing looks too busy to me. It's somehow a movie about blackjack card counting, poker, AND some kind of weird revenge plot? It looks like it's trying to be too many things at once, and does none of them well.

    However, the reviews didn't even say that. In general the biggest complaint is that it's slow and boring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    Intriguing. When did you watch it?
    I didn't. Every person in poker and gambling social media who has watched it says it sucks. And not just from the technical standpoint of the gambling. They just hate it in every way.

    From the trailer, the whole thing looks too busy to me. It's somehow a movie about blackjack card counting, poker, AND some kind of weird revenge plot? It looks like it's trying to be too many things at once, and does none of them well.

    However, the reviews didn't even say that. In general the biggest complaint is that it's slow and boring.
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