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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    But I'm serious about actually doing this. If we can get 52 names, we can start collecting pictures for artwork, do the rest of the design, and I will get these printed.
    Ranks should be done by vote, if possible (rankings much like the NFL's Top 100 players are done) with the Aces and Face Cards reserved for the really bad million+ dollar scammer dudes.

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    lol at the scamming faggot who cant tell the difference between then and than talking about reading comprehension.

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    This guy has been involved in some shady shit over the years.
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    I would drop Bonomo from the list and add an extra Russ Hamilton card. All Justin did was the same shit many other players were doing at the time. It was a growing pain caused by the cardrooms not doing their job correctly.

    What did Mark Seif do that Phil Helmuth didn't?

    There was also that Euro high stakes guy that used software to steal millions from 'friends'

    Add a card for Harrah's for successfully lobbying gov't to kick out existing internet poker while at the same time building its own platform to provide it.

    DOJ

    If you need more how about the superusing accts: nionio, potripper, greycat

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    Quote Originally Posted by JACKDANIELS View Post
    lol at the scamming faggot who cant tell the difference between then and than talking about reading comprehension.

    Once again, reading comprehension:

    Quote Originally Posted by DanDruff
    No more jsearles discussion in this thread, please.
    It's hilarious that we as a society think everyone can be a dr, a lawyer, an engineer. Some people are just fucking stupid. Why can't we just accept that?

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    Does Teddy "The Iceman" Monroe get the deuce of spades due to his "coinflipping" scam that got him 86'ed from the Bellagio poker room a few years back?
    Last edited by Sandwich; 07-18-2012 at 11:08 AM. Reason: Haha, BUBBLES beat me to it!

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    didnt marty roll someone for 10 bones once we got to have a jewdonk card in the deck

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    Deal,
    I disagree re Bonomo, but could be convinced re Seif. His abrasive personality notwithstanding, I don't recall any confirmed scam that is directly related to him personally. (maybe my memory isn't so good tho!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    I really like this idea and would like to get some of these decks produced.

    I'll throw out some names. Feel free to add your own. If the person isn't well known enough, please explain why they should be in this deck.

    Valid reasons include:

    - Scamming people in poker

    - Heavy involvement with companies that scammed people in poker

    - Known or highly suspected poker cheaters



    The lesser-known ones will be the lower cards, while the big ones (like Russ Hamilton) will be the aces.


    AP Group:
    Scott Tom
    AJ Green
    Oscar Hilt-Tatum
    Brent Beckley
    Mark Seif

    UB Group:
    Russ Hamilton
    Annie Duke
    Mansour Matloubi
    Greg Pierson
    Paul Leggett
    Joe Sebok
    Prahald Friedman
    "Chief" Joe Norton

    Full Tilt:
    Ray Bitar
    Howard Lederer
    Chris Ferguson
    Rafe Furst

    Epic Fail Poker League:
    Annie Duke (already listed above)
    Jeffrey Pollack

    Girah Cheating Scandal:
    Jose "Girah" Macedo
    Haseeb "DogIsHead" Qureshi
    Jennifer Larson (Lock CEO)

    Stoxtrader Collusion Scandal:
    Nick "Stoxtrader" Grudzien
    Rob "Kinectica" Papp

    Multi-Accounters:
    Josh "JJProdigy" Fields
    Sorel Mizzi
    Chris "BluffMagCV" Vaughn
    Justin Bonomo
    Nick "GBMantis" Niergarth
    Brian Townsend
    Mark "TheV0id" Teltscher

    Live cheaters:
    Ali Tekintamgac (Partouche poker tour cheater)
    Men "The Master" Nguyen (alleged chip dumping in the '90s)

    Chronic borrowers/bettors who misrepresent their situation when taking loans/action:
    David "Chino" Rheem
    Erick Lindgren
    TJ Cloutier

    Pokerspot Fiasco:
    Dutch Boyd

    Poker Charity scam:
    Jack Walls, UCARE

    Scammers who have targeted poker community:
    Peter Falcone


    Please add more!
    I think the list is biased towards people you don't care for. How can you put Prahlad or Sebok on a scammer card????? How is Annie Duke included in UB and not Phil Hellmuth??? Jungleman is just as culpable in the Girah fiasco, and how is Lock poker responsible for him teamviewing other people and PokerStrategy not?????

    Hoestly if you're serious about this you have to do it right, and not just throw on people with bad reputations or that you don't personally care for. If you really are going to print these up you would be opening yourself up to lawsuits in some of these situations, not just for libel but if you are gonig to use them as promotional products or sell them you need rights to use their image
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanDruff
    No more jsearles discussion in this thread, please.


    how about we can get a compromise here and just have jsearles as the joker

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    i think Annie Duke should be the joker. just sayin

    just because most people throw them away like trash.

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    Would you include politicians like Bill Frist and Spencer Bachus. What Frist did with the UIGEA was as crooked as anyone else mentioned.
    Tradition is a set of solutions for which we have forgotten the problems.

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    I hate to bring up a sore subject but Micon needs to be considered for inclusion not because of the stuff that went down with DD between Druff and Drexel and whomeverelse but the fact is the dude has been scammy and scummy. This bitcoin crap is nothing but one big scam he's pitching like it or not. Also what about the rumors regarding Dustin NWP doing some questionable actions regarding borrowing funds and what not.

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    Here is the thread about the guy who's name I forgot, somehow still on front page of NVG: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...rojan-1120121/

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    Can't forget Johnathan "IamHIV" Drane, WSOP buyin scammer and accused pedo.

    BTW, I do realize that there are some potential legal issues with releasing a deck like this, including accusations of libel and unauthorized use of likeness. I would obviously have to research these issues before actually doing this project.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Can't forget Johnathan "IamHIV" Drane, WSOP buyin scammer and accused pedo.

    BTW, I do realize that there are some potential legal issues with releasing a deck like this, including accusations of libel and unauthorized use of likeness. I would obviously have to research these issues before actually doing this project.
    If you want help narrowing a list down, or need some names let me know.

    On the libel front I think you would have to include a very precise account of why they are being included, what they have admitted to or been accused of -- the word alleged will likely be your best friend here

    Might I also suggest calling it a "Fraud" deck, which would let you include people like Sebok/Prahlad/Annie Duke
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    I realize Mark Seif is an arrogant prick but I've never heard of anything sticking to him in the AP scandal. As far as I remember, nothing was even remotely proven against him. I could be wrong of course.
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    I'd say good luck in the freeroll but I'm pretty sure you'll go on a bender to self-sabotage yourself & miss it completely or use it as the excuse of why you didn't cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hockey Guy View Post
    I realize Mark Seif is an arrogant prick but I've never heard of anything sticking to him in the AP scandal. As far as I remember, nothing was even remotely proven against him. I could be wrong of course.
    Ask Reggiman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hockey Guy View Post
    I realize Mark Seif is an arrogant prick but I've never heard of anything sticking to him in the AP scandal. As far as I remember, nothing was even remotely proven against him. I could be wrong of course.
    He did constantly say there was no scandal, and what people were saying wasn't possible with the software and such. So he is a bit of a "fraud"
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