Originally Posted by
Dan Druff
Mumbles is being a bit hard on ol' Jordan here.
Jordan Peterson is not the best at debating intellectuals. He's very good at debating idiot SJWs, and he's good at laying down the facts of how irrational they are, while being direct, concise, and easy to understand.
That's what rocketed him to fame in the first place. He came out against an idiotic proposed law, and then he got on video debating with some of the most unlikable, self-absorbed college SJWs who looked and acted like they walked out of a conservative political cartoon.
He parlayed that into a great career as a conservative media personality, and given his rather boring and mundane life, it's not likely he will be taken down by any scandal (like Milo was).
I have noticed at times that some of his ideas are odd, backward, or extreme. That actually disappointed me somewhat, as he came off great and fully rational in that argument with the U of Toronto SJWs.
Anyway, it's important to understand what Jordan Peterson is and isn't, and not to get too bent out of shape about the guy.
He found a niche, is profiting handsomely off of it, has the admiration of a large number of people, and has managed to do so without being outrageous or obscene.
Congrats to him.
I don't think Mumbles is being hard on JP at all. Peterson is an ignorant pseudointellectual snake oil salesman who has mobilized an army of resentful incels who might be more insufferable than the SJWs he rails against.
Perhaps the first mention of Jordan Peterson on this site was this thread I started two years ago
https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sh...ose-Their-Shit
At the time I was on board with his basic message that we're going overboard with identity politics (especially in universities). I still believe it's a problem. But JP has raised the alarm to a level that isn't commensurate with the actual problem. He's somehow gone from "these gender-neutral pronouns are getting out of hand" to "the communists are forcing our children to become muslim trans women."
A colleague of mine is actually friends with Peterson (they went to grad school together) so I have a lot of insight into what's going on behind the scenes with this guy. Here's the thing - I don't think he believes most of this shit. He's doing it because it's making him fucking rich. There's a whole new industry of "free speech advocates" (actually just conservatives who scream that the sky is falling) who are profiting off the hysteria they generate.
Finally,
[as a psychologist I can say that JP is not the intellectual he's made out to be. He goes on the Joe Rogan podcast and spouts off unscientific psychobabble about Jungian archetypes that has been dismissed by the scientific community. But it sounds smart so 30-year-old virgins make tribute videos with titles like "Jordan Peterson dismantles feminism!" and "Jordan Peterson destroys neo-marxist" and they whack off while piling up likes on their sad youtube channels.
Other than that I have no opinion on the matter.