That racist bitch Tomi Lahren owned by her own genealogy! (LOL!)

[Gookieheimowitz]

Are you what's commonly known as an anchor baby?

If so and what you say is true your parents broke the law but I also would say if what you say is true then good for you and your family . Although I am not keen on the whole come here illegally and such because for every story like yours there is a 1,000 that come here and break the law and drop babies that ultimately end up in the welfare system. Or come here and commit horrible crimes. Not just Mexicans either all illegals .

That’s just not true. Most people come here to work hard and do the jobs US citizens refuse to do because they’re too entitled. My dad started off working in a factory and so did my mom. One in plastics and the other in a leather company. They saved by renting an attic of a house and saved money. Started businesses, paid taxes, raised children. It wasn’t just them, my father has 12 brothers and sisters all of which or successful and not a single one has ever been arrested or on welfare. My mother has 4 brothers and sisters, 2 very well off from investments and businesses and the others worked for large corporations and saved enough for retirement.

We own over 25 businesses with over 1500 employees, more than 1200 Mexican, and I don’t know of a single one who has ever been on welfare. It’s bullshit. You know who is on welfare? Entitled white trash who won’t clean a toilet for minimum wage because they feel it’s beneath them then blame hard working Mexican immigrants when they do it instead.

What’s made this country great is hungry people trying to make a better life for themselves, not self entitled lazy people looking to blame their problems on others.

This is an interesting topic and to be fair allow me to explain where I sit . I live in the West , Arizona to be exact but I have lived in New Mexico and Nevada as well . For me I see the Immigrant problem everyday and possibly we are talking about different classes of people and race also. From what I do understand is the Midwest and East Coast have still not gotten the full blown effect of what I see as a huge problem in this country .

That being said I am not against immigration . Obviously the United States was built on immigrants coming here and building this country to what it is today . I am against ILLEGAL immigration no matter how poor or bad the original situation was or is. I want a wall and we need a wall . If it was up to me all borders would be sealed tight and if you wanted to come here you would do so through the legal channels . This is not me against Mexicans because we all know there are a huge amount of diversity in the illegals who cross our border North and South everyday.

As far as the White people wont work for minimum wage argument I don't buy into it. Here are some statistics and if anybody is to blame for the welfare problem its the government itself. As far as I am concerned if it was up to me , Every single human on welfare and food stamps would have to submit to a drug test every two weeks to receive there next months benefits.


• The average welfare recipient receives $1,000 a month in benefits.
• 39 states pay more in welfare than an $8 per hour job.
• 6 states pay more in welfare than a $12 per hour job.
• 8 states pay more in welfare than the average salary of a US teacher.

[MumblesBadly]

That’s just not true. Most people come here to work hard and do the jobs US citizens refuse to do because they’re too entitled. My dad started off working in a factory and so did my mom. One in plastics and the other in a leather company. They saved by renting an attic of a house and saved money. Started businesses, paid taxes, raised children. It wasn’t just them, my father has 12 brothers and sisters all of which or successful and not a single one has ever been arrested or on welfare. My mother has 4 brothers and sisters, 2 very well off from investments and businesses and the others worked for large corporations and saved enough for retirement.

We own over 25 businesses with over 1500 employees, more than 1200 Mexican, and I don’t know of a single one who has ever been on welfare. It’s bullshit. You know who is on welfare? Entitled white trash who won’t clean a toilet for minimum wage because they feel it’s beneath them then blame hard working Mexican immigrants when they do it instead.

What’s made this country great is hungry people trying to make a better life for themselves, not self entitled lazy people looking to blame their problems on others.

I don't think this is fair. If a single illegal immigrant had never entered this country, someone would be doing the work, they would just be paid more for it because there wouldn't be a labor force willing to do it cheaper.

I think the point is that illegal immigrants are willing to do these jobs for a lot less money, which is great if you are the guy who owns the company. Not so great if you are an unskilled worker who would rather just take welfare than to take a job that pays so little you would have to live in an attic.

The 10-15 million low-skilled immigrants from Latin America, illegal or otherwise, has had a marginal effect on the earning power of existing US working class folks. The largest factor putting downward pressire on working class incomes over the last few decades has been allowing the 250+ milliom Chinese once-rural poor to compete in making US-bound manufactured goods after they internally immigrated to the rapidly growing new manufacturing centers that sprang up along China’s eastern coast and other major urban areas since the early 2000s when China entered the WTO as a full member.

[BetCheckBet]

That’s just not true. Most people come here to work hard and do the jobs US citizens refuse to do because they’re too entitled. My dad started off working in a factory and so did my mom. One in plastics and the other in a leather company. They saved by renting an attic of a house and saved money. Started businesses, paid taxes, raised children. It wasn’t just them, my father has 12 brothers and sisters all of which or successful and not a single one has ever been arrested or on welfare. My mother has 4 brothers and sisters, 2 very well off from investments and businesses and the others worked for large corporations and saved enough for retirement.

We own over 25 businesses with over 1500 employees, more than 1200 Mexican, and I don’t know of a single one who has ever been on welfare. It’s bullshit. You know who is on welfare? Entitled white trash who won’t clean a toilet for minimum wage because they feel it’s beneath them then blame hard working Mexican immigrants when they do it instead.

What’s made this country great is hungry people trying to make a better life for themselves, not self entitled lazy people looking to blame their problems on others.

This is an interesting topic and to be fair allow me to explain where I sit . I live in the West , Arizona to be exact but I have lived in New Mexico and Nevada as well . For me I see the Immigrant problem everyday and possibly we are talking about different classes of people and race also. From what I do understand is the Midwest and East Coast have still not gotten the full blown effect of what I see as a huge problem in this country .

That being said I am not against immigration . Obviously the United States was built on immigrants coming here and building this country to what it is today . I am against ILLEGAL immigration no matter how poor or bad the original situation was or is. I want a wall and we need a wall . If it was up to me all borders would be sealed tight and if you wanted to come here you would do so through the legal channels . This is not me against Mexicans because we all know there are a huge amount of diversity in the illegals who cross our border North and South everyday.

As far as the White people wont work for minimum wage argument I don't buy into it. Here are some statistics and if anybody is to blame for the welfare problem its the government itself. As far as I am concerned if it was up to me , Every single human on welfare and food stamps would have to submit to a drug test every two weeks to receive there next months benefits.


• The average welfare recipient receives $1,000 a month in benefits.
• 39 states pay more in welfare than an $8 per hour job.
• 6 states pay more in welfare than a $12 per hour job.
• 8 states pay more in welfare than the average salary of a US teacher.

Always find this interesting. Since you Americans call Canada socialist. Welfare making more than a full time teacher? This just sounds like propaganda.

For reference here is what incomes look like in Socialist Canada (Ontario).

Welfare 700 a month
Disability 1100-1200 a month
Minimum wage full time 2380 a month.

Yes you get some benefits like prescription meds on welfare but for the average person this will be well under 100 bucks.

This is why I laugh when people say those on Welfare have it so good. It's total shit and nobody wants to be on it. You literally can't afford to live.

Also I though unemployment is USA was at an all time low?

[BetCheckBet]

Also LOL at drug testing welfare recipients. Do you have any idea how much this would cost? Not too mention the additional strain on shelters and increase in crime. Additionally most hard drugs leave system in 24-72 hours so you really will just catch marijuana users... Oh and alcohol and cigs are probably more of a problem than any of the other drugs anyways.

[Gookieheimowitz]

Also LOL at drug testing welfare recipients. Do you have any idea how much this would cost? Not too mention the additional strain on shelters and increase in crime. Additionally most hard drugs leave system in 24-72 hours so you really will just catch marijuana users... Oh and alcohol and cigs are probably more of a problem than any of the other drugs anyways.

I am fairly certain it would cost less than a majority of people who abuse the system selling there food stamp benefits for 50 cents on the dollar

[El Gallo]

Also LOL at drug testing welfare recipients. Do you have any idea how much this would cost? Not too mention the additional strain on shelters and increase in crime. Additionally most hard drugs leave system in 24-72 hours so you really will just catch marijuana users... Oh and alcohol and cigs are probably more of a problem than any of the other drugs anyways.

I am fairly certain it would cost less than a majority of people who abuse the system selling there food stamp benefits for 50 cents on the dollar

Abuse is nowhere near as bad as you think. Additionally there is abuse from corporations taking advantage of tax loopholes and getting tax credits they don’t deserve. You are trying to solve .002% of the problem and ignoring actual issues

[Gookieheimowitz]

I am fairly certain it would cost less than a majority of people who abuse the system selling there food stamp benefits for 50 cents on the dollar

Abuse is nowhere near as bad as you think. Additionally there is abuse from corporations taking advantage of tax loopholes and getting tax credits they don’t deserve. You are trying to solve .002% of the problem and ignoring actual issues

Outdated stats but I am sure they have gotten worse not better

Top Ten Reasons

1. They Are Ineffective at Reducing Hunger
A report compiled by the Government Accountability Office (GAO) noted that while SNAP (the largest food stamp program) has had some positive results, “the literature is inconclusive regarding whether SNAP alleviates hunger and malnutrition in low-income households.” It went on to say that, “those who choose to participate in food assistance programs generally have greater difficulty meeting their food needs and tend to be more food insecure compared to others that are eligible for programs but do not participate.” In other words, these programs, despite costing tens of billions per year, are not making a sizable impact on hunger in America.


2. They are Subject to Large Scale Fraud & Error
The Government Accountability Office reports that despite great progress, “the amount of SNAP benefits paid in error is substantial, totaling about $2.2 billion in 2009.” Other food programs are worse. The Daily Caller reports the story of Adam Sylvain, a student at George Mason University, who recounts, “My roommate told me he applied for food stamps, and they told him he qualified for $200 a month in benefits… He’s here on scholarship and he saves over $5,000 each summer in cash. A few of our other friends who were in the room also said if there were able to, they would get food stamps … They think that if they’re eligible it’s the government’s fault, so they might as well.” Stories like this are not uncommon. Nor is the misuse of food stamp money by retailers or consumers. In fact, there are only 40 investigators for over 193,000 retailers nationwide, making abuse hard to catch.


3. They Lack Transparency
The USDA does not disclose product purchases or how many total SNAP dollars are spent on each product, nor does the USDA disclose how much money retailers make off of SNAP. This makes it hard for investigative journalists and watchdogs to identify fraud in the system. The Association of Health Care Journalists and six other journalist and open-government groups have requested this information but the USDA refuses to reveal anything. Why is USDA stonewalling journalists? What do they have to hide?


4. They are a Form of Corporate Welfare
According to public health lawyer Michele Simon of eat drink politics, “SNAP represents the largest, most overlooked corporate subsidy in the farm bill.” Food stamp programs guarantee large corporations consistent cash flow, creating a powerful corporate lobbying group that seeks to prevent cuts or changes to SNAP. For example, J.P. Morgan has contracts for Electronic Benefits Transfer (EBT) cards used for SNAP in half the states and has spent millions of dollars lobbying Congress. In addition, large food retailers like Kroger and Walmart gain large shares of SNAP purchases. In some states, Walmart captures upwards to 50 percent of all SNAP purchases. These companies now have a vested interest in opposing any attempts to decrease food stamp enrollment.

5. Food Stamp Advertising Emphasizes Enrollment over Need
The USDA has conducted a massive campaign to increase the number of food stamp recipients, even hiring recruiters who must fulfill enrollment quotas. The USDA in its “Community Partner Outreach Toolkit” webpage gives ideas of how to spread awareness and increase enrollment. Ideas have been implemented such as SNAP-based bingo games for the elderly, food-stamp parties, and fliers that that read, ”Be a patriot. Bring your food stamp money home.” But it doesn’t stop here; the U.S. and Mexico began a partnership in 2004 to “provide information on eligibility criteria for Food and Nutrition Service programs,” and that includes disseminating a Spanish language flyer that tells undocumented immigrants, “You need not divulge information regarding your immigration status in seeking this benefit [food stamps] for your children.” The U.S. also supplies 1/3 of the Puerto Rican population with food stamps, costing U.S. taxpayers roughly $2 billion annually. Clearly, food stamp programs have become more and more about numbers, instead of need.


6. They Overlap and Create Inefficiencies
A report compiled by the Government Accountability Office (GAO) stated that, “the 18 food assistance programs show signs of program overlap, which can create unnecessary work and lead to inefficient use of resources.” Indeed, administrative costs equal about $5.5 billion per year, or about 10 percent of the value of food stamps distributed.



7. They Lack Effective Work Requirements
On top of loosening eligibility requirements in both the 2002 and 2008 Farm Bills, and easing restrictions on states to qualify participants in the 90s, the 2009 Stimulus plan suspended the SNAP’s work requirements for able-bodied adults without dependents (ABAWDs), a ‘temporary’ suspension that has continually been renewed. This creates an incentive for individuals to not work, because such action would likely jeopardize their eligibility for food stamps. According to the Congressional Research Service, participation in SNAP has doubled among these ABAWDs- from 1.9 million to 3.9 million - far outpacing general enrollment increases. This change allows individuals to stay on food stamps with less incentive to improve their economic situation, draining taxpayers and discouraging self-reliance.



8. They Create Dependency
The goal of any government welfare program should be to get people back on their feet, not to keep them in poverty and hunger. Current food stamp programs have little work required as a condition of assistance, encouraging the relatively well off to freeload off the system and those in need to remain in poverty.



9. They Have Become a Burden on Taxpayers
While a large share of the rise in food stamp enrollment is due to our economic downturn, over-active advertising and loosening of eligibility requirements have permanently (unless reformed) enlarged food stamp programs. The CBO projects that by 2022, 34 million people will be enrolled in SNAP and expenditures will total $73 billion, much higher than $19.8 billion spent in 2000.




10. They Should Be Handled by States
Currently, SNAP’s funding comes completely from the federal government, encouraging states to enroll as many people as possible. In fact, in the states’ view, there is little or no problem if food stamps are being abused; it is not “their” problem. This only leads to increasing costs. States can also use what’s called “categorical eligibility” for SNAP in which they determine eligibility not on the program’s income or asset limitations but on individual’s participation in other welfare assistance programs. This usually leads to relaxed standards. Sending the money directly to states as block-grants would give states more flexibility and encourage them to minimize cost and maximize effectiveness, as proven by the successful welfare reforms of the 1990s.



2018 Stats

How much do food stamps cost?
The federal government spent just over $68 billion on SNAP last year. More than 93% of the funds goes toward benefits, which enrollees receive on a card, while the rest covers administrative expenses.



How much fraud is there?
Roughly 1.3 cents for every dollar is lost to fraud, according to a 2013 U.S. Department of Agriculture report. Much of it happens when benefits are exchanged for cash or ineligible items, which typically occurs at smaller retailers.



1.3% * 68 billion = 884,000,000 MILLION DOLLARS

12% were senior citizens older than age 60

44% of food stamp recipients are children So that leaves 42% of the people left are adults between 18-59 Years of age .


42% of 42.2 Million = 17,724,000

Average cost of a drug test $10.00 . So lets say we drug test every single applicant once on arrival of application that's $177,240,000 . If they pass they get benefits . Now lets say they test them again once at random in 3 months . Another $177,240,000 . If pass they stay in program .

Boom I just proved my point and saved the government . $529,520,000.00

Thanks
Gookie

[FPS_Russia]

Are you what's commonly known as an anchor baby?

If so and what you say is true your parents broke the law but I also would say if what you say is true then good for you and your family . Although I am not keen on the whole come here illegally and such because for every story like yours there is a 1,000 that come here and break the law and drop babies that ultimately end up in the welfare system. Or come here and commit horrible crimes. Not just Mexicans either all illegals .

That’s just not true. Most people come here to work hard and do the jobs US citizens refuse to do because they’re too entitled. My dad started off working in a factory and so did my mom. One in plastics and the other in a leather company. They saved by renting an attic of a house and saved money. Started businesses, paid taxes, raised children. It wasn’t just them, my father has 12 brothers and sisters all of which or successful and not a single one has ever been arrested or on welfare. My mother has 4 brothers and sisters, 2 very well off from investments and businesses and the others worked for large corporations and saved enough for retirement.

We own over 25 businesses with over 1500 employees, more than 1200 Mexican, and I don’t know of a single one who has ever been on welfare. It’s bullshit. You know who is on welfare? Entitled white trash who won’t clean a toilet for minimum wage because they feel it’s beneath them then blame hard working Mexican immigrants when they do it instead.

What’s made this country great is hungry people trying to make a better life for themselves, not self entitled lazy people looking to blame their problems on others.

Are you saying you don't like parasites? Me neither, i'm sure you're against the $10 million we give to Israel every single day right? How about the $6 trillion dollar war for Israel. I'm sure you're against the USA now paying holocaust reparations, so yea atleast we agree on something.




You should see the billing fraud by some (((healthcare professionals))), it'll blow your mind.


Watever Gallo lol

[hongkonger]

Hey FPS how about a similar chart showing what they add to the economy?

[Tellafriend]

Food stamps keep people in bondage for the most part. They remain hopeless. Like Puerto Rico.

[Gookieheimowitz]

Food stamps keep people in bondage for the most part. They remain hopeless. Like Puerto Rico.

Agree 100%

[gimmick]

Abuse is nowhere near as bad as you think. Additionally there is abuse from corporations taking advantage of tax loopholes and getting tax credits they don’t deserve. You are trying to solve .002% of the problem and ignoring actual issues

Average cost of a drug test $10.00 . So lets say we drug test every single applicant once on arrival of application that's $177,240,000 . If they pass they get benefits . Now lets say they test them again once at random in 3 months . Another $177,240,000 . If pass they stay in program .

Boom I just proved my point and saved the government . $529,520,000.00

Thanks
Gookie

Nope you just created a new group of people that can only survive by becoming criminals. They have no income and they can't get legitimate jobs because of their record. Most in that group will never pay a single dollar in taxes. Most in that group will cost the government a fuck ton.

You can think of that group as drug addicted illegal immigrants with nowhere to go. Except almost none of them will ever become citizens and ICE can't deport them. Also most of them won't be employed by the grey market and they don't have the perspective of coming from a 3rd world country that makes their current situation bearable. TBH they wouldn't be anything like illegal immigrants. Kinda close to the caricature of illegal immigrants that right likes to depict.

[FPS_Russia]

Hey FPS how about a similar chart showing what they add to the economy?

I'm not anti immigrant, the problem i and many others have is this is a Jewish banker and corporate plot to destroy the white race, it was done by stealth, no discussion whatsoever and we barely found out. These are the same people who bankrolled the Bolshevik revolution, communism and Zionism.

Now that we know we have no choice AND IT'S LIKE THIS IN MOST WHITE COUNTRIES, TO EVEN DISAGREE YOU MIGHT GO TO JAIL VIA HATE SPEECH LAWS. Rampant gang rapes, extreme violence, terror attacks, it don't matter we must accept refugees and pay for them. Meanwhile Israel shoots unarmed civilians by the thousands inc kids and media.

IS THIS FAIR?

Trump's the most anti immigrant candidate and his party has a majority and we're still being flooded with immigrants. I'll give him til the end of his term but there probably won't be any change in the law

i wish it wasn't like this but I'm under no illusion, we either elect some sort extreme white nationalist or we'll be handing our grand kids a dangerous, anti white, violent third world shithole just like South Africa right now.



Hong Kong or any Jew, what would your response be if stefan asked you this question?

[Tellafriend]

Food stamps keep people in bondage for the most part. They remain hopeless. Like Puerto Rico.


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MumblesBadly: Too bad poor folks can’t sell their children for spare body parts, right?


Would somebody in charge please get rid of this blister? I've already blocked him but like herpes he keeps popping up.

His latest Wal-Mart siting:

[BetCheckBet]

Average cost of a drug test $10.00 . So lets say we drug test every single applicant once on arrival of application that's $177,240,000 . If they pass they get benefits . Now lets say they test them again once at random in 3 months . Another $177,240,000 . If pass they stay in program .

Boom I just proved my point and saved the government . $529,520,000.00

Thanks
Gookie

Nope you just created a new group of people that can only survive by becoming criminals. They have no income and they can't get legitimate jobs because of their record. Most in that group will never pay a single dollar in taxes. Most in that group will cost the government a fuck ton.

You can think of that group as drug addicted illegal immigrants with nowhere to go. Except almost none of them will ever become citizens and ICE can't deport them. Also most of them won't be employed by the grey market and they don't have the perspective of coming from a 3rd world country that makes their current situation bearable. TBH they wouldn't be anything like illegal immigrants. Kinda close to the caricature of illegal immigrants that right likes to depict.

This is correct. I've administered tons of urine screens. 10$ urine screen really only good at detecting THC. Plus you go to pay someone probably 30 mins for the administration and paperwork time. You really need to request labwork for accurate drug results which is much more expensive. Anyone on amphetamines or opioids is just going to try to quit for 4-5 days and piss clean. Plus now the opioid users are at high risk for overdosing.

None of this does;t address the issue of alcohol and cigarette use which is much more likely and costly both to the individual and society.

My experience has been the following are the top 3 ways welfare recipients are getting drugs
-drug dealing
-sex trade
-car hopping/break and enters

You are right welfare and food stamps are band aid solution. Maybe USA should think about having proper drug treatment programs for people... Not too mention all the shitty 12 step programs which just create more bottomsets at best (semi joking here of course).

I hear nothing in USA media/politics about setting at job training programs, mental health support, or safe housing.

[FPS_Russia]

Nope you just created a new group of people that can only survive by becoming criminals. They have no income and they can't get legitimate jobs because of their record. Most in that group will never pay a single dollar in taxes. Most in that group will cost the government a fuck ton.

You can think of that group as drug addicted illegal immigrants with nowhere to go. Except almost none of them will ever become citizens and ICE can't deport them. Also most of them won't be employed by the grey market and they don't have the perspective of coming from a 3rd world country that makes their current situation bearable. TBH they wouldn't be anything like illegal immigrants. Kinda close to the caricature of illegal immigrants that right likes to depict.

This is correct. I've administered tons of urine screens. 10$ urine screen really only good at detecting THC. Plus you go to pay someone probably 30 mins for the administration and paperwork time. You really need to request labwork for accurate drug results which is much more expensive. Anyone on amphetamines or opioids is just going to try to quit for 4-5 days and piss clean. Plus now the opioid users are at high risk for overdosing.

None of this does;t address the issue of alcohol and cigarette use which is much more likely and costly both to the individual and society.

My experience has been the following are the top 3 ways welfare recipients are getting drugs
-drug dealing
-sex trade
-car hopping/break and enters

You are right welfare and food stamps are band aid solution. Maybe USA should think about having proper drug treatment programs for people... Not too mention all the shitty 12 step programs which just create more bottomsets at best (semi joking here of course).

I hear nothing in USA media/politics about setting at job training programs, mental health support, or safe housing.

Crack the whip on those white people meanwhile check out how much cash these Somali immigrants are openly declaring at airports and sending to Africa via welfare fraud. Somehow they bill the govt for daycare or some shit.


This is ok, at least nobody can say the authorities are racist, right Mumbles.

[Tellafriend]

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MumblesBadly: Those are 100% fake tits! I *hate* fake tits! (Unless they’re done right. Then, they are great!)


you are pathetic. and a life failure. stay creepy my friend.

[Gookieheimowitz]

Ok lets just get to the crux of the problem as I have found that arguing politics with liberals is a huge waste of time because they do not see anything within reason and the moment they are cornered yell racism .



This gif says it all and is the reason this country is fucked up. They are 100% the reason why a democrat is not in office today







This is why Trump is president





Good Luck
Gookie

[BetCheckBet]

Totally confused? In USA can an illegal alien get on welfare? I know in Canada you have to show proof of citizenship, residency, taxes, and bank account. Do they not do this in USA?

[Gookieheimowitz]

Totally confused? In USA can an illegal alien get on welfare? I know in Canada you have to show proof of citizenship, residency, taxes, and bank account. Do they not do this in USA?

Illegals get Welfare , Drivers License , Housing, FOOD STAMPS, and anything else . Why do you ask? One of the main reasons is application fraud committed by LEGAL immigrants .