Cosby Found Guilty

[Dan Druff]

Incarceration rates don't matter, provided that the convictions are correct and the sentences are fair.

It is far more common in the US for the sentence to be too light rather than too stiff.

For every occasional example you can find of someone getting an overly harsh sentence, you can find 500 examples of sentences which were far too light.

This is why certain violent crimes should have mandatory minimums.

US has by far the highest incarceration rate. Why do you think that is/what do you think that means? (not being sarcastic)

Surely it's a valid indicator of something...I don't understand what you mean by it not mattering.

It matters... but not as an indictment of our justice/prison system.

Every person who commits a serious or moderately serious crime should be locked up for an appropriate amount of time. If the population has more criminals, then we need to lock more of the population up. A high incarceration rate does not mean that people are being unfairly imprisoned.

Why does the US have a high incarceration rate?

Lots of societal problems, stemming all the way back to the violent beginnings of the country, and worsened by a combination of slavery and a border with Mexico.

These are all complicated problems with no easy solution, and I won't pretend to have all the answers.

However, I find it really irritating when people say, "The US imprisons a higher percentage of their population than any developed country, so obviously their justice system is too harsh and ineffective", which is a gross oversimplification of the situation AND inaccurate.

These are actually two separate issues:

Issue #1: Why are there so many criminals in the US?

Issue #2: Once we catch people committing crimes in the US, what should be done with them?

Too many people, especially those on the left, like to combine #1 and #2 as if they're the same issue.

[ftpjesus]

US has by far the highest incarceration rate. Why do you think that is/what do you think that means? (not being sarcastic)

Surely it's a valid indicator of something...I don't understand what you mean by it not mattering.

It matters... but not as an indictment of our justice/prison system.

Every person who commits a serious or moderately serious crime should be locked up for an appropriate amount of time. If the population has more criminals, then we need to lock more of the population up. A high incarceration rate does not mean that people are being unfairly imprisoned.

Why does the US have a high incarceration rate?

Lots of societal problems, stemming all the way back to the violent beginnings of the country, and worsened by a combination of slavery and a border with Mexico.

These are all complicated problems with no easy solution, and I won't pretend to have all the answers.

However, I find it really irritating when people say, "The US imprisons a higher percentage of their population than any developed country, so obviously their justice system is too harsh and ineffective", which is a gross oversimplification of the situation AND inaccurate.

These are actually two separate issues:

Issue #1: Why are there so many criminals in the US?

Issue #2: Once we catch people committing crimes in the US, what should be done with them?

Too many people, especially those on the left, like to combine #1 and #2 as if they're the same issue.

As somebody who has worked in the Prison system as wlel as my wife who did also until Late July for almost 3 yrs.. A couple of observations

1. violent criminals deserve to be locked up obviously.. Problem is couldn't tell you the number of prisoners behind the wall for "Dangerous Drugs possession" among other things.. AZ has a logic that if your convicted a 3rd time for possession of "hardcore" drugs you need prison time.. Problem is were not just talking about Meth were talking the poor black dude whos been labeled a habitual offender for WEED possession.. (wasn't selling it just using it).. and more disgusting this poor guy was no threat to society for bloody sake he had had a stroke and was wheelchair bound (yep hes just such a vicious safety threat)..

2. We are incarcerating people for crimes against Big Pharma is what it boils down to besides the murders and rapists/pedophiles who in many cases never should get out at best and some should've just been strung up, shot on sight or another fitting execution for what they've done..

3. To me everybody makes mistakes so I truly believe unless said crime is a violent crime any first time offender should be given probation and try to find out what lead to their choices and see if something can be done to avoid it in the future.. Good people make bad decisions and choices just trying to get by.. My Step Dad was never caught but he admitted between 16-18 he was regularly stealing food from grocery stores near where he was crashing.. Due to abusive relationship with his father he left home at 16 while still a JR in HS.. He got a job to pay his tuition at the private school he was at.. Living in an abandoned building and yes stealing food to survive.. What he did was a crime indeed habitual even and would've crossed into felony territory eventually.. But he did what he had to survive get into college including law school and became a successful businessman running his own business for decades before economy tanked and he ended up bankrupt in mid 2000s..

4, While Im pretty conservative in my political leanings Im more libertarian then GOP.. I believe in personal responsibility.. I think the War on Drugs is a fucking joke an dnothing more then a way to create under the table cash flow for the CIAs black ops around the world they don't even tell Congress about.. (The whole Columbia Cocaine scene and the explosion of the Medellin Cartel was completely due to the CIA who were using Americans {check out the movie American Made with Cruise while slightly dramatic the gist of the movies plot is 100% true} to bring the drugs in and in fact the CIA was likely the number one drug lord in the USA in the 80s at least when it came to Cocaine and also Marajuana to fund the guerilla war going on in Nicaragua against The communists lead by Daniel Ortega, mostly because Ronald Reagan kept getting stonewalled by Congress even in closed door secured sessions to fund the anti communist operations so they improvised using drug money to buy weapons from Iran for the Contra rebels and keep it off the books entirely). ... Side note I was watching Redacted Tonight Saturday night and the host Lee Camp pointed out something ironically funny but true.. Every thing the US Government tries to run and wage war on they fuck up.. War on Drugs... War on Poverty.. sadly the War on Terror (well when the President is arming and giving money to ISIS because they were/are the proxy Army being used by the USA, UK and Saudis trying to stop a pipeline Russia was trying to build in concert with Iran, Iraq and Syria)

We end up with soo many people in prisons because its the age old conundrum we have to justify our budgets and spend lots of money or they will take it away from us instead of doing whats right and trying to lower recidivism and the need to keep 1 Million plus behind bars.. Between that and the political pandering by companies like CCA and other private prison operators.. Which brings me to one small additional point.. People throw around the word both Fascism and Nazi towards President Trump who don't like him.. The two terms are in fact toally mutually exclusive and thus you cant have your cake and eat it too.. Fascism by basic process is unfortuantley what we deal with a lot here in the USA by its other not so obvious name of Crony Capitalism.. Its primarily where large corporate entities and their very rich heads are in bed with the Politicans making for lack of response towards the very people who the politicans have to thank for their jobs which is the voters.. The Rich corporate types get tax breaks from their buddies and big government contracts which means those companies are in fact pro big government as well as the companies feeling like they are some benevolent dictator type for the masses.. They think they know better what you the citizen wants and needs better then you do.. Swinging slightly over is these Antifa clowns.. They CLAIM to be Anti Fascists.. In fact they are mostly just Anti First Amendment.. Anybody who doesn't believe as they do and spew their hackney political thoughts are evil, dangerous etc.. That too unfortunately is a trait of fascists.. See Fascism and Fascists come from the Latin word Fasces which is a term for what was a bundle of sticks wrapped together the implication being the fasces or bundle (which the country or political power brokers) must stay bundled with single purpose together and anybody trying to not do so are a threat to the strength of the whole system thus must be dealt with at any costs.. Hence why AntiFA by its own actions is in fact FASCIST.. They are a borderline domestic terrorist organization that stifles free speech and attacks verbally as well as physically anyone who questions them and they get a free pass from the media and even sometimes the legal system because they are in fact doing the bidding of the media and those legal political entities who are bent on being in power no matter what because they know better what the people want and need then themselves..

Now the even more perplexing accusation of Nazi and Nazism.. Ok.. Lets beat a deadhorse why don't we.. The Nazi Party its full name was the National SOCIALIST Workers Party.. They were formed originally as a trade union to give power to the workers and the people who at times were suffering under unfair labor standards and the crushing sanctions and legal limits placed on Germany after WW1 by the UK, France, Russia/Soviet Union and to a lesser degree the USA.. Hitler was charismatic and with the people looking for a savior from the onerous conditions (which weren't helped by the Global economic meltdown of 1929 due to the Great Depression).. Hitler once he gained power slowly and then burned the Reichstag (Germanys parliamentary Building) consolidated power.. The Nazi government took over many private businesses in the name of the state (especially those owned by Jewish people as well as migrants from Eastern European Slavic nations) After consolidating industry and commercial businesses he had the financial ability to then start slowly expanding the former German Empire to its greater glory mostly due to the spineless European governments who were only a decade+ past The Great War and Chamberlain being a spineless POS just kept appeasing Hitler while Hitler used Germany industry to start building tanks and other weapons of war in violation of the Versailles treaty of 1919. The rest is history obviously and you wonder why I did th ehistory lesson.. Well those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.. Trump is no Nazi.. He isn't out demanding companies turn over their businesses to the federal government first off.. Secondly Europe is repeating history with their repeated appeasement of the Islamists inspite of skyrocketing violent crime in countries that have been peaceful and pretty damn safe for many decades such as Sweden and the Scandinavian Countries and terrorists continue to attack innocents in UK and France (oh hows that strict gun control working out for you anti gun folks.. I thought strict gun control meant criminals couldn't get guns at least that's what you've somehow convinced yourselves but hell just ignore facts that the 4 highest murder rates in the US are all in cities with extreme gun control laws.. LA, Chicago, DC NYC account for over 1/2 the shootings in the entire country). The whole point is.. Its sad to say but WW3 is likely going to be once again the USA having to go save Europes sorry ass this time from a silent army of invaders from the Middle East (Could call this the 21st Century crusades as its all about religion and dominance of one over the other..) Funny thing is just like WW1 and WW2 despite years of assumptions WW3 would be the big Russia American war it wont be.. Its going to be the USA, Russia and a lot of the former Warsaw Pact Countries rescuing Europe from Islamist Insanity after one or two countries are taken over in a near bloodless coup while the citizens are asleep at the switch because they cant comprehend the evil in the hearts of the Jihadi who only live to spread the Quran and their Satanic lifestyle and kill the infidels.. Oh and tying a nice bow on it is this.. The true German Nazis amounted to less then 10% of the population and yes a large majority of Muslims are not extremist Jihadis but in a religion of 1 Billion plus 10% represents a potential JIhadi army 1/3 the size of the entire US Population.. By not saying or doing anything to stop their fellow Muslims they are tacitly involved as much as the goat fucker who drives a truck into a crowd of folks or decides to load up his vehicle with ANFO and meet his 72 virgins by killing infidels in a car bomb..

[MumblesBadly]

Why does the US have a high incarceration rate?

Lots of societal problems, stemming all the way back to the violent beginnings of the country, and worsened by a combination of slavery and a border with Mexico.

Would you please elaborate on each of the three factors you’ve identified here?

And please contrast these effects in the US versus in other developed countries as applicable, such as those also had “violent beginnings”, such as France, Australia, Spain, Italy, Ireland, Israel, etc.

[FPS_Russia]

This lady is strikes me as totally credible, btw i think this interview is fr 05.

[DJ_Chaps]

This lady is strikes me as totally credible, btw i think this interview is fr 05.

yeah man, the national enquirer is totes credible. fucking retard.

[TheXFactor]

NBC needs to re-boot The Cosby Show immediately.

Imagine the ratings they would receive.

[Tellafriend]

ahmad rashad had the worst groomsmen ever:

[Cerveza Fria]

Pennsylvania’s highest court overturned Bill Cosby’s sex assault conviction Wednesday after finding an agreement with a previous prosecutor prevented him from being charged in the case.


PHILADELPHIA (AP) —
Pennsylvania’s highest court has overturned comedian Bill Cosby’s sex assault conviction. The court said Wednesday that they found an agreement with a previous prosecutor prevented him from being charged in the case. (AP Photo/Matt Slocum, File)
Cosby has served more than two years of a three- to 10-year sentence at a state prison near Philadelphia. He had vowed to serve all 10 years rather than acknowledge any remorse over the 2004 encounter with accuser Andrea Constand.



Full Article Here: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...5IP?li=BBnb7Kz

[TheXFactor]

He will be released soon.

[gut]

GOOD

BLACK MAN FALSELY IMPRISONED, I STAND WITH MY BROTHER.

#PROGRESS2021

[Walter Sobchak]

You think he did Picture Pages with his fellow inmates?

[gut]

[Karen Nathan]

He will be released soon.

I love how Bill looks SMUG and is smirking on the left, but remorseful, regretful, rueful, and guilty on the right....

[zealanddonk]

Biden is soft on crime.

[TheXFactor]

Damn, they keep releasing these sexual predators.

[NickyPipes]

Didn’t know Cosby was getting released until right now. Bit of a messy story, didn’t follow much but remember i was on a long road trip when the story first came out, was all over radio.

[limitles]

they’re punk-ing him
It’s a set up for a future traffic violation

[Karen Nathan]

Didn’t know Cosby was getting released until right now. Bit of a messy story, didn’t follow much but remember i was on a long road trip when the story first came out, was all over radio.

I remember feeling there was no way Bill would be actually found Guilty as many of the "Victims," waited like FORTY years to come Forward. I thought he would be found Not Guilty.

[Sanlmar]

Didn’t know Cosby was getting released until right now. Bit of a messy story, didn’t follow much but remember i was on a long road trip when the story first came out, was all over radio.

I remember feeling there was no way Bill would be actually found Guilty as many of the "Victims," waited like FORTY years to come Forward. I thought he would be found Not Guilty.

The old ways were the best ways.

[nightmarefish]