Fox news is biased, this is LITERALLY an owned and operated news organization CONTROLLED by Putin himself. Do you not see how insane that is?Originally Posted by Salty_Aus
I really hate fuckers who do the look at your source routine.
Address the article and tell me how she is wrong?
I've already conceded she's surely biased, so your task should be easy.
We pray for understanding as we all occasionally request back door action by accident, when we tried to call an electrician. It happens, it simply happens.
Other then her obvious dislike of the white helmets, I thought she quoted her sources and presented a valid argument that your government is acting illegally.... again. *shrugs*Fox news is biased, this is LITERALLY an owned and operated news organization CONTROLLED by Putin himself. Do you not see how insane that is?
did you honestly not watch the 20 min video I posted of Eva talking about how great North Korea is and how they are misunderstood? she paints the picture as if they are a socialist utopia... she's also been proven wrong tons of times about her claims of crisis actors.Other then her obvious dislike of the white helmets, I thought she quoted her sources and presented a valid argument that your government is acting illegally.... again. *shrugs*
Also thought her comments about Israel were a little crude and didn't need to be said.did you honestly not watch the 20 min video I posted of Eva talking about how great North Korea is and how they are misunderstood? she paints the picture as if they are a socialist utopia... she's also been proven wrong tons of times about her claims of crisis actors.
I did hear something about North Korea. Wasn't it her agreeing with someone on another issue who had strange NK beliefs?
NK is not a utopia, but we certainly get hammered with propaganda from NK and about NK.
I'll find it and watch it, or drop the link again.
Talking about her sources here's a nifty method on reading propaganda. Go a little bit deeper than the writer intended. Such as when taking a look at this bit from the article.Other then her obvious dislike of the white helmets, I thought she quoted her sources and presented a valid argument that your government is acting illegally.... again. *shrugs*
In an April 14 interview on Sky News, the former British Ambassador to Syria, Peter Ford, argued that the most elementary stage in the accusations game is to allow the actual inspection to occur.
“The evidence that chemical weapons were dropped is non-existent. Let the inspectors go in and possibly within days we will have a verdict but the jury is still out. ...I'm totally confident that the inspectors will not produce one shred of evidence to back up the assertions of the Americans. If the Americans had proof, they’d have brought it forward. What they're saying and what Mrs. May is saying, is just ‘take our word for it, trust us’. There’s not even a dodgy dossier this time.”
Instead of taking that for face value why don't we look up Peter Ford.
It appear this quote is attributed to Peter from a year ago to BBC in relation to Khan Shaykhun.
"there [had] been no investigation.. not a dodgy dossier - we've not seen any dossier whatever this time"
Huh weird it's like i've heard that before. Now it's strange that he would mention the lack of investigation when it always takes months for OPWC to finalize those. And after those months in this case OPWC verified earlier reports of sarin or sarin-like substances.
Then lets take a look at what Peter likes to do in his spare time when his not busy being a former ambassador to Syria. It appears he holds a prestigious position of director in the British Syrian Society.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...d-lobby-group/
British Syrian Society is a lobbying group found by Assad's father-in-law. Their former co-chair Sir Andrew Green, also a former ambassador to Syria, resigned after Assad's father-in-laws email's to Assad were hacked.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-law-crackdown
"Dr Fawas Akhras, who is the father of Assad's wife, Asma, used a private email channel to the Syrian leader to offer advice on how the regime should spin its suppression of the uprising, including how best to rebut graphic video footage appearing to show the torture of children by Syrian forces."
Nice guy. I'm sure there's a context where advising how best to rebut torturing children sounds less like how best to rebut torturing children. He's doctor btw.
Oh and how this all ties to the original story is that it's safe to say that Peter might not be completely impartial and when presenting someone in an article i think you should probably mention if they are the director of the lobbying group of the guy whose actions they are trying to defend.
US to maintain Syria presence until goals accomplished: Haley
Yep, we'll take out Iran.Speaking on Fox News, Haley outlined three goals for the US in Syria: ensuring chemical weapons are not used, the Islamic State group is defeated and containing Iran.
Johnny Gat recommended the vid below, it's mind blowing but just a warm up for my next post, the biggest red pill i've ever posted. i'm probably out of posts for the day tho. hagd
Still waiting for proof chemical weapons were used, and by who.Talking about her sources here's a nifty method on reading propaganda. Go a little bit deeper than the writer intended. Such as when taking a look at this bit from the article.
In an April 14 interview on Sky News, the former British Ambassador to Syria, Peter Ford, argued that the most elementary stage in the accusations game is to allow the actual inspection to occur.
“The evidence that chemical weapons were dropped is non-existent. Let the inspectors go in and possibly within days we will have a verdict but the jury is still out. ...I'm totally confident that the inspectors will not produce one shred of evidence to back up the assertions of the Americans. If the Americans had proof, they’d have brought it forward. What they're saying and what Mrs. May is saying, is just ‘take our word for it, trust us’. There’s not even a dodgy dossier this time.”
Instead of taking that for face value why don't we look up Peter Ford.
It appear this quote is attributed to Peter from a year ago to BBC in relation to Khan Shaykhun.
"there [had] been no investigation.. not a dodgy dossier - we've not seen any dossier whatever this time"
Huh weird it's like i've heard that before. Now it's strange that he would mention the lack of investigation when it always takes months for OPWC to finalize those. And after those months in this case OPWC verified earlier reports of sarin or sarin-like substances.
Then lets take a look at what Peter likes to do in his spare time when his not busy being a former ambassador to Syria. It appears he holds a prestigious position of director in the British Syrian Society.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...d-lobby-group/
British Syrian Society is a lobbying group found by Assad's father-in-law. Their former co-chair Sir Andrew Green, also a former ambassador to Syria, resigned after Assad's father-in-laws email's to Assad were hacked.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-law-crackdown
"Dr Fawas Akhras, who is the father of Assad's wife, Asma, used a private email channel to the Syrian leader to offer advice on how the regime should spin its suppression of the uprising, including how best to rebut graphic video footage appearing to show the torture of children by Syrian forces."
Nice guy. I'm sure there's a context where advising how best to rebut torturing children sounds less like how best to rebut torturing children. He's doctor btw.
Oh and how this all ties to the original story is that it's safe to say that Peter might not be completely impartial and when presenting someone in an article i think you should probably mention if they are the director of the lobbying group of the guy whose actions they are trying to defend.
You can discredit Peter Ford as much as you like but the simple fact is his comments are relevant.
The USA and cohorts are committing illegal acts of aggression on a sovereign country under the guise of civil war and lies.
Totally cogent:
Yeah, little argument that Obama fucked up in Syria, and now Trump is also. Honestly, you can go back to 2003 when Bush said he wanted to spread democracy throughout the Middle East, the celebration of the Arab Spring, and we just keep fundamentally thinking we can impose American ideals to an unreceptive audience.
Even if your heart is in the right place, it most often ends poorly. Here in the US, we get programmed with the notion that democracy is some standalone righteous thing, when it’s simply a mechanism and only as valuable as your populace is educated and organized. Even in the more secular of middle eastern countries, religion is so fundamentally built into the fabric of the populace, that even a more secular progressive Islamic country ends up electing leaders that are ideologically theocrats for the most part. The fundamentalists are simply far better organized when you introduce democracy and they emerge.
Creating an environment where the younger populace desires to be more similar to western culture through technology is more effective than a thousand bombs can ever be. We keep going with military solutions to a problem that can only be rectified through the attrition of death. It seems the more we get involved, we continue to delay an ideological shift among the young that may have already occurred had we not left a million dead bodies scattered across the sand of various countries. Atrocities are occurring for sure, but removing the emotion out of it, interevening isn’t humanitarian if the end result is more death, which seems to be the most likely outcome given our track record.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
I'm disappointed at everyone's silence about that little boy the IDF shot in the head and then celebrated and then two senior Israeli leaders defending it Holy shit that's insane. I'm not sharing the biggest redpill if you guys are going to be complicit and try to bury that crap. This should be a huge international scandal, god damn look how the jewish media does white on black crime, trying to get us killed by blacks n shit. Blaming us for slavery all that shit.
You wanna know about Syria Russia Israel look in my signature page 16, actually read the whole thing. It's fucked up, we're the marks.
posted over a year ago
Johnny Gat delivers
Every time you say you have some earth shattering revelation that will blow the lid on the whole Jewish conspiracy and red-pill us, I click on the link and it is some random dude in his basement recording a video on his cell phone just making up a bunch of shit (or something similarly uncredible). If you ever have anything more to bring to the table let me know so I don't miss it.
Thanks.
If you watch a full minute of that, you'll see they used an interview from 2013 for background to the 2017 incident. 2013 bit was Carla del Ponte saying she had seen evidence of rebels using chemical weapons. I'm guessing that's the only clip you'll ever see from her in these type of videos.Every time you say you have some earth shattering revelation that will blow the lid on the whole Jewish conspiracy and red-pill us, I click on the link and it is some random dude in his basement recording a video on his cell phone just making up a bunch of shit (or something similarly uncredible). If you ever have anything more to bring to the table let me know so I don't miss it.
Thanks.
In 2017 these two things pop up...
"Veteran prosecutor Carla del Ponte signed off from the United Nations Syria investigation on Monday by criticizing the U.N. Security Council and telling Syria’s ambassador his government had used chemical weapons"
"The U.N. Commission of Inquiry on Syria has gathered enough evidence for President Bashar al-Assad to be convicted of war crimes, a prominent member of the commission, Carla del Ponte, said in remarks published on Sunday"
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-m...-idUSKCN1BT29Q
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-m...-idUSKCN1AT0AY
...she believes more or less all sides have been guilty of war crimes in Syria and should be tried. She left her position in UN because it's currently impossible since Russia vetoes any attempt to do so.
Anyway that's the first minute of the video. They used her words from 2013 to give weight to theory that Assad was innocent to the 2017 incident. The same 2017 incident she thought Assad was guilty of. This is one way of making propaganda.
Every time you say you have some earth shattering revelation that will blow the lid on the whole Jewish conspiracy and red-pill us, I click on the link and it is some random dude in his basement recording a video on his cell phone just making up a bunch of shit (or something similarly uncredible). If you ever have anything more to bring to the table let me know so I don't miss it.
Thanks.
Anyways
If we're there protecting them then how come they want us gone?
Edit:Senators Unveil Bipartisan War Authorization Bill
Ex-Mossad chief warns war could erupt between Israel, Russia in SyriaMost notably, it expands Trump’s authority to take military action against al Qaeda, ISIS or the Taliban, wherever they may be geographically.
https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/Ne...sia-over-Syria Oh shit, I can hear the war drums beating. It looks like BN's right, Israel does want the US to get into WWIII w Russia.
Last edited by FPS_Russia; 04-17-2018 at 12:03 AM.
If we don't question why Fisk gets exclusive and/or early access to these stories in Syria, we can just start with the part that he didn't actually interview any of the doctors that worked that night. The doctor he interviews tells a second hand story that is referred to as a testimony by Zerohedge.
The bit from Syrian Observatory for Human Rights that corroborates the doctors story is about the events of friday the 6th. The gas attack was on saturday the 7th and among others SOHR reported about it then.
And the rest of the article mostly just shit. Some truther crap and standard retardation. Such as "CNN's Arwa Damon is ultimately claiming to be able to safely and comfortably handle and sniff a backpack which contains residual sarin and chlorine agents". Neither is remotely harmful after a week from exposure.
It's safe to take these stories as questionable when the main suspect is choosing reporters, timing, scenes and witnesses after they've cleaned the crime scene. Under these circumstances i don't exactly expect them to find anything against Assad.
So essentially any source that disagrees with what you wish happened is 'bias' and 'corrupt' right ? But the 'white helmets' (proven liars who are basically ISIS cameramen, who have been caught faking every gas attack since 2011 ?) are perfectly good sources that we should all trust ... HALL OF FAME even for PFA !If we don't question why Fisk gets exclusive and/or early access to these stories in Syria, we can just start with the part that he didn't actually interview any of the doctors that worked that night. The doctor he interviews tells a second hand story that is referred to as a testimony by Zerohedge.
The bit from Syrian Observatory for Human Rights that corroborates the doctors story is about the events of friday the 6th. The gas attack was on saturday the 7th and among others SOHR reported about it then.
And the rest of the article mostly just shit. Some truther crap and standard retardation. Such as "CNN's Arwa Damon is ultimately claiming to be able to safely and comfortably handle and sniff a backpack which contains residual sarin and chlorine agents". Neither is remotely harmful after a week from exposure.
It's safe to take these stories as questionable when the main suspect is choosing reporters, timing, scenes and witnesses after they've cleaned the crime scene. Under these circumstances i don't exactly expect them to find anything against Assad.
I heard almost immediately, that there was no gas attack, from several sources. Rather then just gobbling up whatever was reported, I thought the best approach was to give it some time and see what can be proven. I actually suspected there was a gas attack, I was quite sure they'd find a cooking gas bottle or beer barrel bomb that had been filled with chlorine gas, and the real issue would be who had done this. Now it's starting to become evident, that there was no gas attack whatsoever.
Was a little surprised that The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, or as I like to call him 'that bloke in Coventry' who runs a one man band out of his flat, wasn't the first to be screaming gas gas gas. He's usually the first person to spread anti Assad rhetoric and propaganda.
I'm still very surprised that the main stream media repeatedly uses this single disenchanted dissident as a high priority source. Perhaps now that he disagrees with the agenda we're being fed, he might not be the MSM's priority source in the future.
Over 40 years experience in the middle east, and has been awarded some of the highest awards in the industry. Including The British Press Awards Foreign Journalist of the year... seven times!If we don't question why Fisk gets exclusive and/or early access to these stories in Syria, we can just start with the part that he didn't actually interview any of the doctors that worked that night. The doctor he interviews tells a second hand story that is referred to as a testimony by Zerohedge.
The bit from Syrian Observatory for Human Rights that corroborates the doctors story is about the events of friday the 6th. The gas attack was on saturday the 7th and among others SOHR reported about it then.
And the rest of the article mostly just shit. Some truther crap and standard retardation. Such as "CNN's Arwa Damon is ultimately claiming to be able to safely and comfortably handle and sniff a backpack which contains residual sarin and chlorine agents". Neither is remotely harmful after a week from exposure.
It's safe to take these stories as questionable when the main suspect is choosing reporters, timing, scenes and witnesses after they've cleaned the crime scene. Under these circumstances i don't exactly expect them to find anything against Assad.
Of course he's a Russian shill. *laughs*
From the link that zerohedge provides to SOHR...I heard almost immediately, that there was no gas attack, from several sources. Rather then just gobbling up whatever was reported, I thought the best approach was to give it some time and see what can be proven. I actually suspected there was a gas attack, I was quite sure they'd find a cooking gas bottle or beer barrel bomb that had been filled with chlorine gas, and the real issue would be who had done this. Now it's starting to become evident, that there was no gas attack whatsoever.
Was a little surprised that The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, or as I like to call him 'that bloke in Coventry' who runs a one man band out of his flat, wasn't the first to be screaming gas gas gas. He's usually the first person to spread anti Assad rhetoric and propaganda.
I'm still very surprised that the main stream media repeatedly uses this single disenchanted dissident as a high priority source. Perhaps now that he disagrees with the agenda we're being fed, he might not be the MSM's priority source in the future.
"Syrian Observatory for Human Rights monitored the rise of number of persons who were killed today, Friday, to 42 casualties"
...as i said before SOHR reported gas on Saturday. Do i need to explain different days and the concept of time?
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