Since I'm sure you are all dying for my take. I don't support gays rights to have children. I also don't support straights rights to have children either. It's child abuse no matter who you are.
Since I'm sure you are all dying for my take. I don't support gays rights to have children. I also don't support straights rights to have children either. It's child abuse no matter who you are.
This thread is sure to get us 4 more votes for the 2018 Women in Poker Hall of Fame
Druff jumps the gun again. Video of the incident has just been released:
Last edited by Jayjami; 04-07-2018 at 11:00 AM.
This title looks like it's straight from one of those 'Daily Mail' headline generators I always see on facebook...
Real issue is both potential drivers were women......it was bound to happen
proper send off
heart is getting cold
Last edited by limitles; 04-07-2018 at 06:18 PM.
I don't like gay adoption, or assisting them to have children with IVF. And I lean about as far left as you can without falling into the abyss.
Gender reassignment of young children and adolescents is another pet hate. This makes me really angry.
Think you're making a mountain out of a mole hill.
They reported this initially. Accidents are a low level nightly thing mostly. Don't ever get re-run less there is other details. Show the public the wreck and move on.
They ran it again when they figured it was a suicide/homicide, both women dead so nobody left to hate on. These things aren't that uncommon, usually a truck head-on.
Now they give it another run when they work out who this poor family was, and uncover all the juicy details. Kids roaming the neighborhood asking for food etc.
I see the problem here.
You're comparing a much more juicy news story about crazy parents locking up their kids in chains.
This is a lot less common and we had those crazy Elvis pics to salivate over while we thought how the fuck was this possible.
Druff went straight down the rabbit hole with this one. She can't be ovulating it has to be the father doing one of the daughters. Haven't paid any further attention were you right?
Now you're saying what?
It should be covered way more intensely so we can kick the shit out of the libtards?
I lean left, you lean right. You're for gay adoption, I'm not.
My decision is based on this simple thing. Kids are cunts, as someone who once was a child, I'd not like to have gay parents. At some point in your childhood it would be a huge issue and cause grief. Even if it's only being picked on.
Am I missing something?
Last edited by Salty_Aus; 04-08-2018 at 04:05 AM.
Your analysis is so full of weird biases. "Wolves in sheeps clothing" or whatever don't usually wind up killing themselves.
It is hard to tell how planned this sort of thing was or what they originally thought (of adopting). Those foster kids often have severe issues. These women likely had no fucking clue what they were getting into. $270k isn't like some big amount of money to take care of 5 kids for many many years.
And CONTRARY to what you have been told, this made national news the first day it happened. I believe it was even suggested they did it intentionally. It was actually all over the news. You need to actually observe this shit and not just accept what you're told by nutter right-wing media.
Was there bias in the way it was covered? Probably so. I haven't uhh studied this like you have, but I believe there were biases. However, your version is 100% completely wrong as this was covered by liberal media.
The woman you are quoting to backup your side also says shit like this "There are no easy answers and no shortcuts to solutions. But we must start by recognizing black children as fully human and believing that their lives matter. " So you agree with that too now? LOL. Honestly, she said a lot. Holding her up and chanting "I told you so" is kinda uhh silly.
Finally, outside of the murder-suicide, these women were not far worse than the Turpins. Regarding Turpins - "On January 14, 2018, one of the children escaped and contacted police who on entering the home found some of the children in a dark, foul-smelling room. The couple allegedly shackled, beat and strangled the children, allowing them to eat once per day and shower just once per year" These lesbians didn't do many of these things. To say the lesbians were far worse or whatever is pretty sick to me. Your biases are also kinda sick. I don't wish to defend them, but fuucck. There are reasons Turpins were splashed all over the news. Not showering for a year? shackled children? Strangled? You think the lesbians treated the kids worse? HUH? The story I read about the hungry kid has him going outside 3 times. Again, not wishing to defend the couple but I haven't read how they abused the kids on any level near what the Turpins did.
Last edited by donkdowndonedied; 04-08-2018 at 07:33 AM.
You don't think they were worse than the Turpins?
They murdered their six children AND mistreated/abused/starved them when they were alive.
The Turpins mistreated/abused/starved their kids, but didn't kill anyone.
Pretty big difference.
I doubt you saw this in the national news for the first week it happened. I read major news sites every day, and I didn't see it until about a week later.
Yes, they were wolves in sheeps' clothing. They pretended to be sensitive humanitarians who wanted peace, joy, and love everywhere. They adopted 6 kids of color (mostly black) to show everyone that they really practiced what they preached. Then they starved and abused these children behind closed doors. Then they committed murder-suicide when they presumably feared the hammer of justice was about to fall upon them.
Even without the murder, it's clear these two women were horrible people, and huge hypocrites.
If you march and protest in favor of racial harmony and fair treatment of black people, and then you go home and beat and starve your black kids, then you're a pretty damn big hypocrite.
If you say that black lives matter, and then you murder black children, you are again a pretty damn big hypocrite.
I actually do believe that there is some degree of racism regarding both how the abuse allegations were handled and the subsequent (lack of) media coverage. Except it was racism from the left -- not the usual alt-right type racism we hear about nowadays. This left-based racism involved giving a child abuse pass to these women because they were good white liberal lesbians who adopted otherwise unwanted black kids. The media also kept coverage of this story to a minimum, so as to not give the public the impression that gay adoption is a bad thing (and to avoid the perception that white liberal activists are violent wackos behind closed doors.)
If a white, heterosexual Christian couple murdered six black children, this would be all over the news nonstop.
Two liberal lesbians do it, and we get mostly crickets.
I don't blame that black (liberal) female editorial author for being pissed about this, and for seeing how hypocritical the "tolerant" left really is.
Oh, and here's an update:
http://abc7chicago.com/mom-drunk-kid...-says/3362017/
Cliffs:
- Child protective services tried to visit on March 23. Nobody answered the door and then the women took off with the 6 kids the next morning. Doesn't take a genius to realize that they were running. Maybe they figured out that Devonte complained to the neighbors, and that they were about to go to prison.
- The three children found dead in the SUV were drugged with the same ingredient found in Benadryl, presumably to make them sleepy and unlikely to be able to prevent the murder that was to take place.
- Jennifer Hart was the one driving the SUV, and had some drinks before going over the cliff. However, her BAC was only .10%, so she wasn't drunk to the point that she didn't know what she was doing. For reference, while .10% is enough to be considered a DUI, it was actually barely legal to drive that way in California about 25 years ago. I'm guessing she had those drinks to make it easier to go through with what she was planning.
I am one of the last Americans to actually watch the evening news.
I remember seeing this story. Always “a couple” plunged over a cliff with “their children”.
I literarily had no idea they were lesbians with a van full of black children until I saw the posts here. I think more details were given about the make and model of their automobile.
Media trying too hard.
On the other hand, ama erectile dysfunction, incontinence or big fee retirement plans. Commercials aren’t aimed at millenials.
So I ask this, if the commercials aren’t aimed at left leaning millenials then why is the evening news tailored that way?
Last edited by Sanlmar; 04-21-2018 at 04:12 AM.
Dammit! The liberal media once again doesn’t cover this story....
Hart Family, Before Driving Off Cliff, Hid Dark Home Life From View
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/04/2...ily-crash.html
Get ‘em, Druff!
I don't think that putting your children in chains to be better than having a breakdown and killing your kids. One shows longterm evilness. The other one shows people who likely meant well initially then got in well over their heads.
It is funny how these wolves ended up killing themselves. Some wolves they were, huh?
And yes I MOST definitely saw this within 24 hours of it happening. CNN delved into it to enough that they suggested it might have been done intentionally because I had the same thoughts. If it wasn't CNN then it was whatever news outlet at the time suggested intent. Then later more stuff came out obviously, but I 100% saw this within 24 hours as it made national news.
Having a wreck with 6 adopted kids, where they're all dead, and the kids were sorta famous nationally WILL definitely make national news. It did, just like is to be expected.
It is ridiculous. You're literally calling the women racists (and therefore hypocrites), because the kids they were abusing were black. It is just LOL all over the place. Oh, they're hypocrites! You would never take this line elsewhere. NEVER. What happened if they had happened to have a white kid in there and beat it too? What would you attribute the beating to?
You see this stuff on a very simple level. BLM , but their kids were black ! Hypocrites! lol.
Seriously, am I supposed to call the women black radicals because they killed white women due to their racism? By your logic I believe I am. Seriously. Think about it... Pretty sure thats what you're saying.
BUMP
Investigation complete. It was what it seemed to be.
The hammer was about to come down on them for the child abuse, they knew it, so they packed the kids up for a murder-suicide mission.
Jennifer, the driver, drank 5 beers to give herself courage to drive off the cliff.
Her wife Sarah looked up on the internet, while Jennifer was driving, about the effects of the Benadryl they gave the kids, and how fast the kids would die after the car crashed into the ocean.
And while CNN dances around the topic, the truth is that child protective services ignored the abuse reports because the word of white liberal lesbians needs to be believed over that of black children, so much to where it's not even worth seriously investigating multiple allegations of child abuse. Also, no one wants to be accused of persecuting a gay couple, so better to just assume they're not doing anything wrong, ok?
Racism from the left, everybody. Gotta love it.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/06/us/ha...hes/index.html
That's also a problem.
But that wasn't the bigger issue here. The bigger issue, which CNN and the mainstream media is trying to ignore, is that there were very credible and easily verifiable allegations of abuse, but every time they were either dismissed or the women got a quick slap on the wrist without further investigation.
While this hasn't been proven, there's a lot of suspicion that these women were given "good leftist" points by the typically left-leaning social workers who encountered them. Basically it was assumed that two left-wing lesbian human rights advocates who adopted six black children couldn't possibly be dangerous monsters, and therefore it wasn't worth really investigating anything.
The kids were repeatedly beaten and severely underfed. A quick look at the kids would have made it clear they were malnourished and grossly underdeveloped for their age. Since the kids weren't related, genetics couldn't even be blamed. The one time something was done, there was a slap-on-the-wrist child abuse charge, with such little investigation that they let the wrong woman voluntarily take the rap for it.
When six biologically unrelated kids look super skinny and undeveloped for their age, and the social workers don't bother to ask any questions despite repeated abuse allegations, there's something very wrong.
Some in the black community were outraged over this, and I don't blame them. This was a case where black lives really didn't matter -- because the accused were higher up on the victim class totem pole than the accusers. And now the kids are all dead.
As I said, left wing racism.
Give it a rest Druff.
Or just whiter. Fairly standard racism. Roughly equal theory, just much more common.
On a federal level everything went as expected. Zero communication between states. Works wonders with systems that rely on escalating measures. They started with a clean slate every time they moved. Fairly sure it was illegal for any of the social workers to communicate out of state. Another victory for small government.
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