Active Shooter, Parkland, FL High School

[chinamaniac]

Every school needs a guy with a grenade and a machine gun patrolling

[simpdog]

Have moats around the school full of sharks with fricken laser beams.

[chinamaniac]

Have moats around the school full of sharks with fricken laser beams.

Moats is a great idea too

[thesidedish]

So, looks like the media is walking back the alt right narrative. That is ok. They did their job to make us hate and distrust each other a little more, based on a false, overblown narrative.

Where are you seeing that?

lol exactly. and of course parody boy has no idea either

[hongkonger]

I mean this should be done for all privately owned guns.

Ill repeat, you are ridiculously naive if you think this will ever happen in this country. If we rewound 100-150 years then its slightly possible. Slightly.

I didn't say it will happen I said it should happen.

[ErickAA]

So, looks like the media is walking back the alt right narrative. That is ok. They did their job to make us hate and distrust each other a little more, based on a false, overblown narrative.

Where are you seeing that?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ist-group.html

It appears the local police keep tabs on the active members of the group, and they don't know him. I would guess at most he showed up and "trained" with them a couple times, but at no point was he ever an active member.

I am sure CNN and the NYT will eventually get around to clarifying this situation. But they aren't in any hurry. The longer they can push the hate narrative, and make all the rest of us hate each other that much more, the happier they are.

[DirtyB]

Where are you seeing that?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ist-group.html

It appears the local police keep tabs on the active members of the group, and they don't know him. I would guess at most he showed up and "trained" with them a couple times, but at no point was he ever an active member.

I am sure CNN and the NYT will eventually get around to clarifying this situation. But they aren't in any hurry. The longer they can push the hate narrative, and make all the rest of us hate each other that much more, the happier they are.

Ok. But you acknowledge that he was a Trump supporter who wore a MAGA hat to school and hated blacks and muslims, right?

[ErickAA]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ist-group.html

It appears the local police keep tabs on the active members of the group, and they don't know him. I would guess at most he showed up and "trained" with them a couple times, but at no point was he ever an active member.

I am sure CNN and the NYT will eventually get around to clarifying this situation. But they aren't in any hurry. The longer they can push the hate narrative, and make all the rest of us hate each other that much more, the happier they are.

Ok. But you acknowledge that he was a Trump supporter who wore a MAGA hat to school and hated blacks and muslims, right?

By the loose definition of "hate" you are using there are probably 100 million people in the United States that hate someone else. So yes, he would fit in that group. I know a lot of people that have used derogatory racial slurs at some point in their life, so if that makes you a "hater" then sure he hated along with about 100 million other people.

I know he certainly did not appear to be guided by any ideology of hating black or Muslims when he shot indiscriminately into a crowd of mostly white people killing 15 people, none of whom appear to be black or Muslim.

And if you want to play the "Trump Supporter" game, the recent President who has the most murderers who "supported" them was probably Barrack Obama. So if you want to blame a President for the crimes their "supporters" did it looks like President Obama needs to be held a lot more accountable for all the murders people who voted for him or otherwise "supported" him have committed in the last 10 or so years.

Of course this narrative is nonsense, just like it is nonsense to try to politicize this as some sort of referendum on Trump or Trump supporters, and it is nonsense to claim he was motivated by an alt right ideology.

[ErickAA]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ist-group.html

It appears the local police keep tabs on the active members of the group, and they don't know him. I would guess at most he showed up and "trained" with them a couple times, but at no point was he ever an active member.

I am sure CNN and the NYT will eventually get around to clarifying this situation. But they aren't in any hurry. The longer they can push the hate narrative, and make all the rest of us hate each other that much more, the happier they are.

Ok. But you acknowledge that he was a Trump supporter who wore a MAGA hat to school and hated blacks and muslims, right?

You do realize that if you ever became a mass murder of notoriety, regardless of your actual motives for murder, the ADL would do a little digging and see that you frequented this site, and see some of the shit posted on this site, and they would make a statement that you were an "active member of an alt right website." That is how this game is played.

[Zap_the_Fractions_Giraffe]

[Gordman]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ist-group.html

It appears the local police keep tabs on the active members of the group, and they don't know him. I would guess at most he showed up and "trained" with them a couple times, but at no point was he ever an active member.

I am sure CNN and the NYT will eventually get around to clarifying this situation. But they aren't in any hurry. The longer they can push the hate narrative, and make all the rest of us hate each other that much more, the happier they are.

Ok. But you acknowledge that he was a Trump supporter who wore a MAGA hat to school and hated blacks and muslims, right?

I just checked in, but im trying to figure out where you're going with this. The left still holds the high score on gun deaths, and its not. even. close. So please enlighten me how these supposed newly groomed "Trump supporters" are all of the sudden tipping the scales?

[Zap_the_Fractions_Giraffe]

I'm gonna wait and see but if it turns out that the dropout who shot up his high school actually went to McDonald's that day as I've read I'm never gonna eat McDonald's again and that's just another drop in the "everyone who eats McDonald's is a racist" bucket that's nearly spilling over

[DirtyB]

Ok. But you acknowledge that he was a Trump supporter who wore a MAGA hat to school and hated blacks and muslims, right?

By the loose definition of "hate" you are using there are probably 100 million people in the United States that hate someone else. So yes, he would fit in that group. I know a lot of people that have used derogatory racial slurs at some point in their life, so if that makes you a "hater" then sure he hated along with about 100 million other people.

I know he certainly did not appear to be guided by any ideology of hating black or Muslims when he shot indiscriminately into a crowd of mostly white people killing 15 people, none of whom appear to be black or Muslim.

And if you want to play the "Trump Supporter" game, the recent President who has the most murderers who "supported" them was probably Barrack Obama. So if you want to blame a President for the crimes their "supporters" did it looks like President Obama needs to be held a lot more accountable for all the murders people who voted for him or otherwise "supported" him have committed in the last 10 or so years.

Of course this narrative is nonsense, just like it is nonsense to try to politicize this as some sort of referendum on Trump or Trump supporters, and it is nonsense to claim he was motivated by an alt right ideology.

So he did all of the things that a member of the alt-right does, but the liberal media is backtracking on their false narrative that he is a member of the alt-right? Is that your story here?

[ErickAA]

Ok. But you acknowledge that he was a Trump supporter who wore a MAGA hat to school and hated blacks and muslims, right?

I just checked in, but im trying to figure out where you're going with this. The left still holds the high score on gun deaths, and its not. even. close. So please enlighten me how these supposed newly groomed "Trump supporters" are all of the sudden tipping the scales?

I don't think political ideology has much to do with most gun deaths. I don't think it had much to do with this mass murder, and I don't think it has much to do with most of the gun deaths committed by "the left."

[DirtyB]

Ok. But you acknowledge that he was a Trump supporter who wore a MAGA hat to school and hated blacks and muslims, right?

I just checked in, but im trying to figure out where you're going with this. The left still holds the high score on gun deaths, and its not. even. close. So please enlighten me how these supposed newly groomed "Trump supporters" are all of the sudden tipping the scales?

Are you counting Union soldiers in the Civil War as leftists? Murders by white supremacists went up over 150% between 2016 and 2017.

https://qz.com/1182778/the-far-right...lings-in-2017/

[v12cl]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ist-group.html

It appears the local police keep tabs on the active members of the group, and they don't know him. I would guess at most he showed up and "trained" with them a couple times, but at no point was he ever an active member.

I am sure CNN and the NYT will eventually get around to clarifying this situation. But they aren't in any hurry. The longer they can push the hate narrative, and make all the rest of us hate each other that much more, the happier they are.

Ok. But you acknowledge that he was a Trump supporter who wore a MAGA hat to school and hated blacks and muslims, right?

That may very well be the case, but the majority of the victims looked white, outside of 1-2 Asians.

Not a Black or Muslim in the bunch, from what I could tell, but let's not let facts get in the way of the narrative.

[DirtyB]

Ok. But you acknowledge that he was a Trump supporter who wore a MAGA hat to school and hated blacks and muslims, right?

That may very well be the case, but the majority of the victims looked white, outside of 1-2 Asians.

Not a Black or Muslim in the bunch, from what I could tell, but let's not let facts get in the way of the narrative.

I noticed that you didn't reply to the dozens of posts lying about Cruz being a liberal.

[ErickAA]

By the loose definition of "hate" you are using there are probably 100 million people in the United States that hate someone else. So yes, he would fit in that group. I know a lot of people that have used derogatory racial slurs at some point in their life, so if that makes you a "hater" then sure he hated along with about 100 million other people.

I know he certainly did not appear to be guided by any ideology of hating black or Muslims when he shot indiscriminately into a crowd of mostly white people killing 15 people, none of whom appear to be black or Muslim.

And if you want to play the "Trump Supporter" game, the recent President who has the most murderers who "supported" them was probably Barrack Obama. So if you want to blame a President for the crimes their "supporters" did it looks like President Obama needs to be held a lot more accountable for all the murders people who voted for him or otherwise "supported" him have committed in the last 10 or so years.

Of course this narrative is nonsense, just like it is nonsense to try to politicize this as some sort of referendum on Trump or Trump supporters, and it is nonsense to claim he was motivated by an alt right ideology.

So he did all of the things that a member of the alt-right does, but the liberal media is backtracking on their false narrative that he is a member of the alt-right? Is that your story here?

I don't accept your (or the ADL or the SPLC) definition of "alt-right." Your definition of alt-right would probably encapsulate about 100 million people in this country. I do believe he did many thing that someone with severe mental health issues does, and his political orientation had little impact on his decision to carry out this horrific crime, and no impact on who he chose to shoot.

Like I said before, using the loose definition of alt-right the ADL uses, you are a member of the alt-right for being an active participant on this message board.

[ErickAA]

I just checked in, but im trying to figure out where you're going with this. The left still holds the high score on gun deaths, and its not. even. close. So please enlighten me how these supposed newly groomed "Trump supporters" are all of the sudden tipping the scales?

Are you counting Union soldiers in the Civil War as leftists? Murders by white supremacists went up over 150% between 2016 and 2017.

https://qz.com/1182778/the-far-right...lings-in-2017/

The ADL is a clown show. If you actually look at the individual cases, it is laughable some of the cases they claim to be alt-right, and in reverse how often they spuriously dismiss hate motives when the perpetrator isn't a white person.

[Gordman]

I just checked in, but im trying to figure out where you're going with this. The left still holds the high score on gun deaths, and its not. even. close. So please enlighten me how these supposed newly groomed "Trump supporters" are all of the sudden tipping the scales?

Are you counting Union soldiers in the Civil War as leftists? Murders by white supremacists went up over 150% between 2016 and 2017.

https://qz.com/1182778/the-far-right...lings-in-2017/

Are you really bringing up a civil war from 150 years ago? I thought you were better than this.
No, im not counting the civil war lol. That relic shouldnt even be in the convo, but that was a nice reach.

Hey, if all of those "right wing killers" that the left keeps mentioning would be actually manifesting, you wouldnt need to cite civil war stats. But the fact remains as i have stated.

And this is coming from a Libertarian