Karla Homolka: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karla_Homolka
Canadian.
Along with her husband, raped and murdered three minors, one of whom was her sister.
Was imprisoned for 12 years, and has been back on the streets since 2005.
Karla Homolka: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karla_Homolka
Canadian.
Along with her husband, raped and murdered three minors, one of whom was her sister.
Was imprisoned for 12 years, and has been back on the streets since 2005.
Will Baker: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...ticle33992330/
Canadian.
Killed and beheaded a 22-year-old man on a Greyhound bus in 2008.
Claimed that "schizophrenia" was responsible for the murder.
Granted more and more freedom rights over the years, and was completely released without restriction in 2017.
Harold Smeltzer: https://globalnews.ca/news/3800504/p...on-day-parole/
Canadian.
Convicted in 1980 of murdering a little girl and dumping her body in the garbage.
Was given "day parole" starting in 2008, and admitted to still finding underage girls attractive while out on the streets.
Did not affect his parole. He's still allowed to walk the streets on day parole.
He's also on a "waiting list" to receive psychological counseling, all while being able to mostly freely move about society.
Steven Leclair: https://globalnews.ca/news/1113138/m...rs-of-freedom/
Canadian.
Shot and killed 3 people in a Vancouver bar in 1980.
Carjacked someone and headed to a police station, where he then murdered an officer at the desk, and wounded another.
He was 34 years old when he did this. You can't even say that he was a dumb kid who hadn't grown up yet.
In 2014, he was given limited parole, granted the ability to leave prison for up to 72 hours each month.
While the board’s decision says Leclair presents a “high risk to re-offend violently,” it also notes there have been no issues with his unescorted day passes since they were granted almost a year ago.
Craig Munro: https://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2...of_prison.html
In 1980 (apparently a big year for Canadian murderers who would later get paroled), Craig Munro attempted a robbery, but police responded, and he shot one of them. The officer didn't die immediately, and was on the ground bleeding out, but Munro and his brother would not let any emergency teams in to save him, holding police at bay with their guns.
While the officer was dying on the ground, Munro taunted him that he would never see his wife or children again.
Another officer, named Adamson, ignored stand-down orders and finally hurled tear gas into the scene, which actually worked. The brothers were arrested, but it was too late, and the first officer died. Adamson was so depressed over his decision to wait with the tear gas that he committed suicide years later.
In 2010, Munro was granted unescorted parole for up to 15 days, each year.
Charles Ng: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Ng
Along with accomplice Leonard Lake, who committed suicide after being arrested, Charles Ng committed as many as 25 murders which also involved kidnapping, torture, and rape.
Unlike the others profiled here, Ng was not Canadian. He committed these murders in California in the mid-1980s.
Ng actually videotaped himself committing these acts of torture, murder, and rape. At one point, he told a female victim, "You can cry and stuff, like the rest of them, but it won't do any good. We are pretty ... cold-hearted, so to speak."
So what does this have to do with Canada?
While Lake killed himself, Ng escaped to Canada. He was arrested in Canada a month later for theft, and it was realized that he was wanted in California for murder.
California authorities presented their stone-lock evidence against him, including Ng's own videotapes of committing his crimes!
Canada refused to extradite him, because California intended to seek the death penalty, and Canada felt this constituted "cruel and unusual punishment". This was despite the fact that there was 100% certainty that Ng had committed these murders, rapes, and tortures.
Finally in 1991 (six years later), Canada agreed to extradite him. He was convicted and sentenced to death in California.
had no idea Vine Li changed his name.
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You know dik all about the Canadian cases you quoted. You picked terrible examples. Karla, for instance, was given a plea deal of less time in return for testimony against her husband to put him away for life without chance of parole. So they got the monster off the street permanently. Karla on her own is no danger, she hooked up with evil young in life and was swept up in his shit. Paul was raping and killing before he met her.
Tell me that same shit doesn't happen in the US?
If you want to pick on something Canadian that sucks at least find something that the US is better at. The only example I can think of is the relative strength of your military. Although that is debatable since you haven't participated on the winning side of a war since WW2. Since then it has been a complete disaster but maybe all that will be forgotten when Trump gets his LOL military parade.
Try again, genius.
Of the examples I posted, only Karla was a plea deal to convict others.
What about the rest?
You cool with a child rapist/murderer who admits he still likes young girls walking the streets on day parole?
But I'm sure Trudeau would literally cry on camera if this guy was denied his compassionate human rights of freedom.
Weather and the most vile cigarettes.
QFT
Rich old Canadians heading south for weather is all that is left.
It use to be young educated professionals would head there for the money. This has completely reversed now. So many have participated in pillaging your economy and are now moving back to live in a sane environment to raise their family. On top of ex pats we are granting more green cards then ever and building a huge tech environment here. Trump has been great for our economy.
You must be fucking retarded if you think this. Seriously, you have no clue what the fuck you are talking about.
Off the top of my head 1 of the cases you posted, Ng, wasn't even a convicted Canadian that was paroled but was an American who fled to Canada you fucking goof.
Another, the bus beheader, was an obviously mentally unwell individual. Yeah, lets lock up all mentally unwell people forever even though, with the proper help & medication can be productive members of society. It's not like they let him walk out of the courtroom & back into society without a long period of treatment & restrictions first. This was the classic case of "not guilty by reasons of insanity" in every aspect unless of course you think he was "faking" it.
The third, Homolka, was about a deal the crown made before finding the crucial evidence they needed, they didn't even know it existed, to put them both behind bars forever. They tried to get that deal thrown out but failed. I'm sure your vast legal knowledge could have helped get that deal thrown out but, alas, you weren't available at the time & they had to stand by the deal which sometimes happens in the real world. Shitty but it happens & she still spent a considerable amount of time behind bars while Paul Bernardo will never see the light of day. Not ideal but it's not like she walked away with nothing.
The fourth, I'm way too lazy to go see how stupid you are.
I'd also like to point out that none of these 3 I've mentioned have given the Canadian legal system even 1 more moment of trouble since so fuck right off.
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Originally Posted by Hockey Guy
I can't believe you're actually advocating releasing a murderer back into society after EIGHT YEARS who beheaded a stranger on a bus.
Now that he's medicated, he's safe to return to society? What if he gets off his meds?
Would you feel comfortable riding on a bus with this guy?
Those who committed murder should never be released, and ESPECIALLY not after just eight years. If they were insane at the time of the murder, that is a reason to show leniency regarding the death penalty (which Canada doesn't have anyway), but they shouldn't be released back into society.
I also explained the Ng case in full in that other thread, and pointed out exactly where Canada was at fault. Yes, it was different than the others, but I never characterized it as a parole issue. It was just another LOL Canadian justice story.
The Canadian system doesn't seem to believe in "life with no possibility of parole". You Canucks seem to think everyone can be rehabilitated, and that past crimes don't matter as long as you're not going to commit future crimes (lol at both).
That's why they're giving day parole to child rapists/murderers who admit they still like little girls.
Face it, your criminal justice system sucks, and you should be thanking God that your country doesn't have the historical violent crime problem that the US does. If Canada had the crime issues the US does, your justice system would be woefully unequipped to handle it.
Of course, what can we expect from a country whose Prime Minister cries on cue in order to show everyone what a sensitive SJW he is?
Notice nearly all large Canadian cities are close to the US border.
Wonder why that is (and don't say weather)....
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