if jack morris is going to the hof 50 other pitchers need to as well

[mulva]

dragging requirements down, obv. i don't like this. the veterans committee is mucking it up once again.

people don't realize what this entry means because there are many above average pitchers w/ similar/better numbers than morris that don't even get a sniff for the hof

i stil lol @ bill mazerowski being in the HOF becuse the VC voted him in as well. maz is a shameful entry..and lol @ jeff kent holding his dick being denied

Year	Age	Tm	Lg	W	L	W-L%	ERA	G	GS	GF	CG	SHO	SV	IP	H	R	ER	HR	BB	IBB	SO	HBP	BK	WP	BF	ERA+	FIP	WHIP	H9	HR9	BB9	SO9	SO/W	Awards
1977	22	DET	AL	1	1	.500	3.74	7	6	0	1	0	0	45.2	38	20	19	4	23	0	28	0	0	2	189	115	4.16	1.336	7.5	0.8	4.5	5.5	1.22
1978	23	DET	AL	3	5	.375	4.33	28	7	10	0	0	0	106.0	107	57	51	8	49	5	48	3	0	4	469	89	4.13	1.472	9.1	0.7	4.2	4.1	0.98
1979	24	DET	AL	17	7	.708	3.28	27	27	0	9	1	0	197.2	179	76	72	19	59	4	113	4	1	9	806	133	3.79	1.204	8.2	0.9	2.7	5.1	1.92
1980	25	DET	AL	16	15	.516	4.18	36	36	0	11	2	0	250.0	252	125	116	20	87	5	112	4	2	6	1074	99	3.99	1.356	9.1	0.7	3.1	4.0	1.29
1981	26	DET	AL	14	7	.667	3.05	25	25	0	15	1	0	198.0	153	69	67	14	78	11	97	2	2	2	798	124	3.75	1.167	7.0	0.6	3.5	4.4	1.24	AS,CYA-3,MVP-15
1982	27	DET	AL	17	16	.515	4.06	37	37	0	17	3	0	266.1	247	131	120	37	96	7	135	0	0	10	1107	100	4.59	1.288	8.3	1.3	3.2	4.6	1.41
1983	28	DET	AL	20	13	.606	3.34	37	37	0	20	1	0	293.2	257	117	109	30	83	5	232	3	0	18	1204	117	3.38	1.158	7.9	0.9	2.5	7.1	2.80	CYA-3,MVP-21
1984	29	DET	AL	19	11	.633	3.60	35	35	0	9	1	0	240.1	221	108	96	20	87	7	148	2	0	14	1015	109	3.73	1.282	8.3	0.7	3.3	5.5	1.70	AS,CYA-7
1985	30	DET	AL	16	11	.593	3.33	35	35	0	13	4	0	257.0	212	102	95	21	110	7	191	5	3	15	1077	122	3.60	1.253	7.4	0.7	3.9	6.7	1.74	AS
1986	31	DET	AL	21	8	.724	3.27	35	35	0	15	6	0	267.0	229	105	97	40	82	7	223	0	0	12	1092	127	3.97	1.165	7.7	1.3	2.8	7.5	2.72	CYA-5
1987	32	DET	AL	18	11	.621	3.38	34	34	0	13	0	0	266.0	227	111	100	39	93	7	208	1	1	24	1101	126	4.27	1.203	7.7	1.3	3.1	7.0	2.24	AS,CYA-9,MVP-20
1988	33	DET	AL	15	13	.536	3.94	34	34	0	10	2	0	235.0	225	115	103	20	83	7	168	4	11	11	997	97	3.56	1.311	8.6	0.8	3.2	6.4	2.02
1989	34	DET	AL	6	14	.300	4.86	24	24	0	10	0	0	170.1	189	102	92	23	59	3	115	2	1	12	743	79	4.24	1.456	10.0	1.2	3.1	6.1	1.95
1990	35	DET	AL	15	18	.455	4.51	36	36	0	11	3	0	249.2	231	144	125	26	97	13	162	6	2	16	1073	89	4.10	1.314	8.3	0.9	3.5	5.8	1.67
1991	36	MIN	AL	18	12	.600	3.43	35	35	0	10	2	0	246.2	226	107	94	18	92	5	163	5	1	15	1032	125	3.66	1.289	8.2	0.7	3.4	5.9	1.77	AS,CYA-4,MVP-13
1992	37	TOR	AL	21	6	.778	4.04	34	34	0	6	1	0	240.2	222	114	108	18	80	2	132	10	2	9	1005	101	3.78	1.255	8.3	0.7	3.0	4.9	1.65	CYA-5,MVP-13
1993	38	TOR	AL	7	12	.368	6.19	27	27	0	4	1	0	152.2	189	116	105	18	65	2	103	3	1	14	702	70	4.51	1.664	11.1	1.1	3.8	6.1	1.58
1994	39	CLE	AL	10	6	.625	5.60	23	23	0	1	0	0	141.1	163	96	88	14	67	2	100	4	0	13	636	83	4.51	1.627	10.4	0.9	4.3	6.4	1.49
18 Yrs				254	186	.577	3.90	549	527	10	175	28	0	3824.0	3567	1815	1657	389	1390	99	2478	58	27	206	16120	105	3.94	1.296	8.4	0.9	3.3	5.8	1.78
162 Game Avg.				16	12	.577	3.90	35	33	1	11	2	0	242	225	115	105	25	88	6	157	4	2	13	1019	105	3.94	1.296	8.4	0.9	3.3	5.8	1.78

[GambleBotsChafedPenis]

wow didn't realize his numbers were that average...hadn't looked at them in awhile...

always great to have your best performance of your career in the biggest game of the year...

[Crowe Diddly]

I was gonna say that I feel like you guys aren't taking his mustache into account enough.

However, on second thought, it was an average baseball mustache at best. Tough field to break out from, too many guys with serious staches in those days.

[SetofKs]

he definitely doesn't belong, i aint crying about it though because he was god for the twins that one year

[mulva]

just off the top of my head morris belongs w/ people below these. and these guys aren't even in the hall

shilling
mussina
brown
cone
tiant
doc gooden's first 7/8yrs

i prolly would take frank viola over him. not to mention hersisher and and few better comps

[Brittney Griner's Clit]

Frank "Sweet Music" Viola in just for best nickname. Shilling only retired like 5 or 6 years ago and fucked himself with that tampon in his sock, nazi memorabilia, that tweet about trannys, and being a horrible baseball commentator. Had no idea Doc Gooden wasn't in that's pretty racist. Being an awesome dude counts for something and Jack Morris is an awesome dude.

[mulva]

Being an awesome dude counts for something and Jack Morris is an awesome dude.

i don't care if he's an awesome dude. dave steib was a #1 starter and an awesome dude as well not to mention he had a stash.

wut about valenzuela. he was a much better pitcher as well..and now that morris is in the hof, andy pettite will make it inas well. prolly 15/20 years the same way morris got in

[gut]

wow didn't realize his numbers were that average...hadn't looked at them in awhile...

always great to have your best performance of your career in the biggest game of the year...

As a Twins fan, Jack Morris is GOD and deserves to be in every HOF ever, regardless of sport. RATIONAL UNBIASED VIEWPOINT

[gut]

I generally agree though with the OP, but thats how it works. He won a ring with three different teams, and had one of his best games on the biggest stage possible with game 7 in '91.

People will bitch when Eli makes Canton as well, but hey the helmet-catch and knocking off the undefeated team are things people remember.

[GambleBotsChafedPenis]

I generally agree though with the OP, but thats how it works. He won a ring with three different teams, and had one of his best games on the biggest stage possible with game 7 in '91.

People will bitch when Eli makes Canton as well, but hey the helmet-catch and knocking off the undefeated team are things people remember.

x 1000000000000

eli is gonna go into canton alongside montana, unitas, young, marino, Elway, peyton, brady, etc...outside of those two playoff runs has anything about eli's career said to you 'HOFer'? ive just resigned myself to the fact he's going to canton because he's got those 2 rings...ESPECIALLY knocking off the pats undefeated season...

[mulva]

i won''t compare eli to bojack morris. it's just an unfair comp


eli has gone through plenty of ups/downs but he did win 2 SB and found his groove when he needed it the most.

as for bojack, what happens letting him in is that every other like/similar pitcher has a credible case now. i mean you're not going to compare david cone to a first ballot hof SP. you're going to compare him to the shittiest hof and go from there.

much like bill mazerowski. maz and morris both lower the standards and make it even more of a joke than it is