FCC Votes to Kill Net Neutrality

[vegas1369]

They did it. They fucking did it. The corruption continues.

"We will have a Cheshire cat version of net neutrality," said FCC Commissioner Mignon Clyburn, who voted against the measure. "We will be in a world where regulatory substance fades to black and all that is left is a broadband provider's toothy grin."

Druff, would love to hear your thoughts on this?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/net-neu...d-live-stream/

[PLOL]

Druff supports this, and honestly so do I. No, I know, I’m supposed to shill for multi-billion dollar corporations like Netflix and Google who don’t like it because that’s “liberal” for some reason.

I’m actually neutral on the repeal but liberals are so obnoxiously over dramatic about it, that I’ve come to support it being repealed. And no, Comcast isn’t going to start charging you $1.99 to compose a tweet or whatever LOL propaganda I’ve seen about it. Calm down, nerds

[BlunderMaker]

Oh no, now the internet will be like it was before 2015. What a nightmare!

idiots

[devidee]

I'm in the calm down nerds camp.

[wrenchjockey]

The nerds are not calm yet.

[The_Lurker]

Thanks Obama

[PLOL]

Exit question: How much will the FCC charge us to post on PFA?

Hopefully enough to cut down some of the shit posters

[simpdog]

Cable companies/phone companies always need something to charge you for.

-long distance calls -remember paying to call your grandma down in Florida?
-texts -remember when each text costed money? Or only 100 texts per month?
-movie/specialty channels - still exists
-data usage for mobile/internet - still exists to a degree but some plans now unlim on both phone/net


I don't think it will move to paying for certain services (ie. Pay 1.99 per month to have unlimited netflix at superfast speeds). But I do believe the providers will reach out to Netflix asking for money for faster service to their customers.

[MrTickle]

ELI5?

[SrslySirius]

I’m actually neutral on the repeal but liberals are so obnoxiously over dramatic about it, that I’ve come to support it being repealed. And no, Comcast isn’t going to start charging you $1.99 to compose a tweet or whatever LOL propaganda I’ve seen about it. Calm down, nerds

I'm pro net neutrality, but kind of in the same boat here. The Chicken Little histrionics from the left over this issue is absurd. This has the opposite of the desired effect when people discover that it's a massive exaggeration.

[BlunderMaker]

<𝙼𝚎𝚜𝚜𝚊𝚐𝚎 𝚠𝚒𝚝𝚑𝚑𝚎𝚕𝚍 𝚋𝚢 𝙵𝙲𝙲. 𝙿𝚕𝚎𝚊𝚜𝚎 𝚞𝚙𝚐𝚛𝚊𝚍𝚎 𝚢𝚘𝚞𝚛 𝚜𝚎𝚛𝚟𝚒𝚌𝚎 𝚝𝚘 𝚊𝚌𝚌𝚎𝚜𝚜 𝚝𝚑𝚎𝚜𝚎 𝚏𝚎𝚊𝚝𝚞𝚛𝚎𝚜>

[devidee]

I'm pro net neutrality, but kind of in the same boat here. The Chicken Little histrionics from the left over this issue is absurd. This has the opposite of the desired effect when people discover that it's a massive exaggeration.

[DirtyB]

And no, Comcast isn’t going to start charging you $1.99 to compose a tweet or whatever LOL propaganda I’ve seen about it.

What are you basing that claim on?

[BlunderMaker]

And no, Comcast isn’t going to start charging you $1.99 to compose a tweet or whatever LOL propaganda I’ve seen about it.

What are you basing that claim on?

Do you want to bet on it?

[DirtyB]

What are you basing that claim on?

Do you want to bet on it?

I'll bet you $10k even money it happens by July 1, 2018. Bet is only valid if you escrow with Druff by the end of today.

[sonatine]

None of this shit survives whatever replaces Trump, least of all survives the first 5 minutes of people's PornHub streams getting choppy.

Also, time to start a VPN service.

[simpdog]

None of this shit survives whatever replaces Trump, least of all survives the first 5 minutes of people's PornHub streams getting choppy.

Also, time to start a VPN service.

Encrypted traffic addon, $5 per month for unlimited speed for the first 5 gigs.

[sonatine]

None of this shit survives whatever replaces Trump, least of all survives the first 5 minutes of people's PornHub streams getting choppy.

Also, time to start a VPN service.

Encrypted traffic addon, $5 per month for unlimited speed for the first 5 gigs.

also expect an absolute firestorm of lawsuits from gaming companies whose ping times are going to triple off this shit.

[Dan Druff]

Before you panic about this, consider the following:

Do you remember any problem using the internet in 2014 which net neutrality fixed in 2015?

You don't?

Then why was there the urgency to pass a law regarding something which hadn't occurred yet?

Here's the truth about net neutrality.

Data usage on the internet has vastly changed over the years, and it was something the cable providers (nor the government) could never have predicted.

Basically, a few huge companies -- namely Google, Facebook, and Netflix -- are hogging a highly disproportionate amount of internet bandwidth, and profiting hugely from it.

The ISPs -- mostly cable companies -- are very upset that they have to keep sinking big money into expanding their network capabilities in order to support these data-hog companies, and are getting absolutely nothing in return.

So they've been pressuring these giant content providers to start paying their fair share of the costs, and the content providers obviously don't want to do that because.... well, profits.

The clever folks at Google/Facebook/Netflix came up with a devious plan to stop this from ever occurring. They framed this entire dispute as "net neutrality" -- that the cable companies simply want to dictate to customers which sites they can and can't access -- or will charge customers extra if they access non-favored sites.

Scare tactics were used such as, "If you try to visit a streaming service which competes with your cable company's streaming service, they will throttle it to where it won't work for you!", and this terrified people into rebelling against the evil cable companies, who, let's face it, are already hated anyway (and for good reason).

So idiot politicians and the idiot public got onboard with "net neutrality" -- framed improperly as a fight for internet freedom -- when in reality they were unwittingly taking sides in a dispute between groups of multi-billion-dollar corporations.

Even worse, they were taking the wrong side. As much as I hate the cable companies, they have a point. The data hogs shouldn't be able to keep hogging massive bandwidth and causing cable companies to spend massive money to upgrade in order to keep up, unless they're willing to share in some of this cost.

Think of the internet like a buffet.

Some people eat very little at the buffet, some eat an average amount, and some eat a lot, but overall nobody eats so much that it would put the owner out of business.

Now say that 3 competitive eaters start showing up at the buffet daily, and for $11.99, they stuff their faces with a massive amount of food that no one thought possible.

Even worse, these guys are chronicling their buffet gorging on video and then uploading it to their popular YouTube channels, profiting from the many views they get.

The buffet owner finally decides he's fed up. He goes to these 3 competitive eaters and says, "You guys are abusing the all-you-can-eat concept here, and are eating so much food every day that I can't afford to run this place. Additionally, you're profiting from what you're doing, as you're making money from these videos you're making of this. You're either going to have to leave or pay extra in the future."

Would you think this buffet owner was reasonable?

If so, substitute the business owner for the cable companies, substitute the 3 competitive eaters for Google/Facebook/Netflix, and you see what's going on here.

Yet the public really believes that asking these 3 competitive eaters to pay their fair share is somehow an assault on everyone's freedom.

LOL sheeple

[Dan Druff]

And if you still don't get it, substitute me on Live at the Bike for the 3 competitive eaters.